You literally have to be kidding me. What are we even arguing here... Sasuke has more proficiently with 3T then Itachi? Or Sasuke's 3T genjutsu is superior to Itachi's? Or both? Either way, that's a joke. Itachi mastered the sharingan by age 8, he was the only one in the entire leaf village to notice Obito sneaking in and out of the village, stated to be the only shinobi capable of utilizing genjutsu that would go undetected by an entire sensory unit, as well as the only one among the entire Uchiha to have true ocular prowess. The very fact that he effortlessly destroyed Orochimaru with 3T genjutsu alone, while Hebi Sasuke had to literally wait until Orochimaru was severely weakened to take him down already puts his 3T prowess far above Hebi Sasuke's.
Controlling Manda is nothing beyond Itachi's capabilities, especially when DSM Kabuto had to take extreme measures in order to eliminate any possibility of being controlled by Itachi... but somehow Sasuke controlling Manda is a miraculous feat. Laughable. He only broke Tsukiyomi because he possessed all of the requirements to do so. Danzo already made it perfectly clear that Tsukiyomi is tiers above Sasuke's MS genjutsu [
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Sad. Outlasted a Sasuke who used Oral Rebirth? Want to try a sick Itachi who was only temporarily prolonging his life due to a bunch of meds outlasted Sasuke despite splitting his chakra with a Karasu Bunshin, Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu twice on an extensive large scale, then extinguished some of it, then maintained his highest version of Susano'o for a solid couple of minutes while combating Orochimaru, then sealed another Amaterasu within Sasuke. But Oral Rebirth somehow exceeds all that, right? Yeah, let's stick to facts please. How ironic coming from you.
Nothing Itachi couldn't avoid. And if he was serious in that scenario, while Sasuke was focusing on adding raiton stream into that shuriken, the real Itachi could of blitzed him that very moment. Not that the fight would of even gotten that far if Itachi was actually serious about taking him out. Chidori Senbon is easily countered with Katon or Itachi's shurikenjutsu. I'm waisting my time entertaining this entire silly post, but I will absolutely not entertain the laughable notion of base Hebi Sasuke taking out an unrestricted 3T Itachi. Your Itachi hate went way out of proportion there.
Based on what? I'm actually curious.
While Itachi is all around
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(sick, near blind, impaired by Tsukiyomi's side effects, and leg injury) Sasuke still completely fails to tag Itachi
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while he is caught in a mid-air motion, and unable to freely move. Everything else, Zetsu made it clear Itachi wasn't himself and should of easily been able to evade. Base Hebi Sasuke has absolutely nothing that'll touch Itachi in this scenario, and he can't tank his attacks, which demands him to rely on CM2. And the only thing CM2 Sasuke accomplishes is draining his chakra. I understand you absolutely hate Itachi for whatever reason, but at least try to be consistent with the manga while posting; as the bolded is laughable, per usual with you.
You need to give that shit a break already. Edo Itachi was casually outclassing him in that entire fight without much effort either. Manga fact! And Naruto and Bee both have Itachi to thank, because their battle intelligence is piss poor.
I also suppose Kakashi and Naruto aren't any faster then Shino either, considering they're all supposed to be
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and he's trailing directly behind them, but what else is new.
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@ Konohas Copy Ninja, I have to step out for a bit, I'll definitely reply to your respectable post in a few... couldn't help but address the garbage I saw on this thread first.
Sasuke got hit by Bee because he was arrogant and believed he could actually handle Bee's dexterous style; Itachi didn't "casually" evade Bee, he made him retreat within a few panels [
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Sorry for the late response, I get lazy with these long posts.
He was parrying all of Bee's attacks with a mere kunai, which is a much more impressive feat then doing so with a longer sword; because the Kunai is small, so it took extra precision to be able to successfully clash and parry all the sword attacks. Keeping that in mind, there was no indication of Itachi ever being pressured by Bee, unlike in Sasuke's case where Kishi incorporated a [!]. You can argue that Bee was pushing Itachi back (which he certainly was) but that isn't necessarily because Itachi was being pressured. Bee is easily a lot stronger and attacks with more force then Itachi, so Itachi contesting Bee in a forward motion would of been like running into a wall, which is futile and foolish. There was never a single moment when Bee's movement speed and attacking speed was even remotely putting pressure on Itachi [
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], while the same can't be said for Sasuke. Bee had to literally go V2 on Kisame because his inferior versions couldn't get the job done and trump Kisame in CQC, so how do you figure he'd do the same against Itachi? So you can say Itachi had to retreat before he got smoked, but I disagree due to the reasoning stated above. Instead of wasting time, Itachi jumped and immediately proceeded to use his MS to bring out the KA clone to free him from Kabuto's binding.
As for getting knocked away, the databook suggests anyone who even touches the nagashi is getting stiffed;
[picture of Sasuke repelling team Kakashi with the Chidori Current]
→The body of the person touched by the "Chidori" will misinterpret the Lightning nature as "electrical signals from the nerves," making its muscles contract. This causes the body to involuntarily go stiff, while at the same time receiving damage.
The one who approaches this body will be attacked all over!!
This ninjutsu makes practical use of the "Chidori" by extending its attack range, in order to make use of the Lightning nature's special characteristic of "temporarily making the muscles of the touched person go stiff," and attempt to enfold multiple enemies. By releasing the "Chidori" in every direction, an electrical discharge flows from one's entire body. This allows one to attack everyone within a specific range. Also, when using this attack on a great number of enemies at once, it also effectively doubles as an instant defence.
*Chidori (千鳥) means "a thousand birds". It's from a story about a sixteenth-century military commander named Tachibana Dousetsu, who owned a sword named the Chidori. One day, he was struck by lightning while sitting under a tree. Acting quickly, he drew his sword and cut the Thunder God riding the lightning. This saved his life and after this incident, he changed the name of his sword from Chidori to Raikiri (雷切, "Lightning Cutter").
Itachi doesn't have knowledge on this technique, correct? The databook makes clear what happens to those with no intel on it. He'd most likely get stiffed.
In regards to Chidora Nagashi, are you suggesting to me that Sasuke is deemed untouchable due to this technique and ability to somehow use it within split second windows? The technique has only been shown to be ever used in a scenario where his opponents are grasping onto him... not brief contact in CQC engagement, which would require him to evade or block, unless he wants to get knocked on his ass. Itachi has seen Chidori Nagashi used in a different manner [
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That's the thing though. Kabuto only noticed Itachi coming at the last second because of the crows impairing him, which gave Itachi an opening to execute his Shunshin. Another thing thing you're failing to see is that Kabuto was in an upside down freefalling position, which would of course negate his mobility and limit his capabilities which he would be able to demonstate were he in a casual, standing position. The fact that Kabuto reacted at all is impressive, to be honest. Clone feints have a recessive theme in the manga where nobody sees anyone using it, despite being right in front of each other. Naruto, Itachi, Kakashi and even guys like Yamato used it without anyone noticing, it isn't really anything to hold against Sasuke. Anyways, you're correct in stating that he can bunshin feint Sasuke, which I admitted to. However I don't see him capitalising on it, not with full knowledge seeing as beforehand, Sasuke reacted to Itachi's blindsided presence before [
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], albeit Itachi never attempted a blitz. However as soon as Itachi leaves Sasuke's LoS, he can call forth some snakes.
True, but much like the crow distraction, Kabuto was incapable of avoiding Sasuke's susano'o arrow the second time around because of a distraction as well [
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Nagato instantly see's exactly what his other set of eyes see via shared vision
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And the second Itachi's kunai made contact with his summons to block the shared vision, Itachi shunshin'd from where he was concealing himself and caught Nagato completely by surprise [
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So all this, added to the fact that sick Itachi has already both
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and bunshin feinted Hebi Sasuke
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(Sasuke thought the one appearing out of nowhere with the kunai was the clone, but it was the real Itachi) tells me that an even faster healthy Itachi is accomplishing these feats again as well. Btw, if Itachi was ever serious about kiling Sasuke, he could of easily capatilized on that with a shunshin kunai slash to the throat, rather then tossing 3 Kunai's at him.
That blindside point isn't an adequate feat. Not when Itachi was literally sitting down casting genjutsu, which Sasuke simply saw through.
Raiton variants such as senbon can dispatch clones from mid range and if Sasuke puts enough chakra into it, he can expand it's range making it impossible for them to dodge (
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Databook link isn't working, but I'll take your word for it. Either way I don't see this being much of a factor, as Chidori Senbon should be countered by Itachi's Katon (which is strong enough to tear through the earth) or his own shurikenjutsu.
Yeah, oral rebirth isn't something he can use a lot, if at all. I speak mainly of his ability to spawn snakes around him near instantly as he did with Deidara and even Itachi after using Bunshin surprise attack [
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Sure, he could do that, but those weren't exactly very fast attacks that Sasuke utilized a snake summoning to defend against. Not very fast in a sense that that tossing Kunai's or Deidaras clay birds are even close to comparable to Itachi's shunshin speed, as I highlighted above. Against Itachi's Katon and Suiton however, I definitely can see this as a viable defense. But it should be noted that the snake will block Sasukes LOS, and Itachi will capitilize on that. I'd like to see Sasuke's aerial capabilites if you don't mind, because I don't see how hovering is accomplishing much when Itachi can easily mount a bird hovering
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in the sky. In regards to the snakes, well I suppose genjutsu could be used against them if Sasuke attempts at utilizing them in a offensive purpose.
Sorry for the late response, I get lazy with these long posts.
He was parrying all of Bee's attacks with a mere kunai, which is a much more impressive feat then doing so with a longer sword; because the Kunai is small, so it took extra precision to be able to successfully clash and parry all the sword attacks. Keeping that in mind, there was no indication of Itachi ever being pressured by Bee, unlike in Sasuke's case where Kishi incorporated a [!]. You can argue that Bee was pushing Itachi back (which he certainly was) but that isn't necessarily because Itachi was being pressured. Bee is easily a lot stronger and attacks with more force then Itachi, so Itachi contesting Bee in a forward motion would of been like running into a wall, which is futile and foolish. There was never a single moment when Bee's movement speed and attacking speed was even remotely putting pressure on Itachi [
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], while the same can't be said for Sasuke. Bee had to literally go V2 on Kisame because his inferior versions couldn't get the job done and trump Kisame in CQC, so how do you figure he'd do the same against Itachi? So you can say Itachi had to retreat before he got smoked, but I disagree due to the reasoning stated above. Instead of wasting time, Itachi jumped and immediately proceeded to use his MS to bring out the KA clone to free him from Kabuto's binding..
I pretty much answered this in my previous post. Like I said, Sasuke was simply arrogant and believed he could handle Bee's dexterous movements; Sasuke was far from being one panelled, as he did momentarily keep up [
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] with him. If Sasuke hadn't of been so confident in his abilities, and retreated in those two instances like Itachi did he would never of got caught the way he did. Of course Itachi's feat is more impressive, as I've already admitted to the latter having better Taijutsu but Sasuke's ability to augment his blades and himself closes that gap significantly. You saying Itachi couldn't advance is basically admitting inferiority against Bee's dance, you do not move back and then completely jump shit within the space of a couple of panels if you're not getting overwhelmed. Sure there's no literal indication from Kishi, but I believe the scan speaks for itself. Had Itachi continued to engage Bee he would of eventually been bested, and it's not really debatable. Itachi keeping up with Bee while wielding Samehada is ultimately matched, if not bested when Sasuke got the better of Bee when the latter was using Zabuza's blade [
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Bee never attempted his sword dance against Kisame so you cannot really make that comparison. Kisame is a different story as his ability to absorb chakra in CQC gave him a massive advantage.
In regards to Chidora Nagashi, are you suggesting to me that Sasuke is deemed untouchable due to this technique and ability to somehow use it within split second windows? The technique has only been shown to be ever used in a scenario where his opponents are grasping onto him... not brief contact in CQC engagement, which would require him to evade or block, unless he wants to get knocked on his ass. Itachi has seen Chidori Nagashi used in a different manner [
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And what other times do you suggest he use it? The people he fought were an airborne Deidara and a bed ridden Orochimaru. Itachi too, but that was hardly a CQC engagement save for a few skirmishes. It was predominantly ninjutsu and genjutsu. The time he used it against team 7 is irrelevant as it can be used in other ways, it isn't specific to just one usage. He has knowledge on Sasuke's ration and a few of it's variants, but not Nagashi in particular; the databook makes clear that those who see will be fooled immediately. For all we know Itachi was trying to avoid electrocution or piercing damage, not getting completely immobilised.
True, but much like the crow distraction, Kabuto was incapable of avoiding Sasuke's susano'o arrow the second time around because of a distraction as well [
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Nagato instantly see's exactly what his other set of eyes see via shared vision
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And the second Itachi's kunai made contact with his summons to block the shared vision, Itachi shunshin'd from where he was concealing himself and caught Nagato completely by surprise [
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You've basically proven my point. Kabuto avoided Sasuke's initial Susano'o arrow with no problems whatsoever [
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So all this, added to the fact that sick Itachi has already both
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and bunshin feinted Hebi Sasuke
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(Sasuke thought the one appearing out of nowhere with the kunai was the clone, but it was the real Itachi) tells me that an even faster healthy Itachi is accomplishing these feats again as well. Btw, if Itachi was ever serious about kiling Sasuke, he could of easily capatilized on that with a shunshin kunai slash to the throat, rather then tossing 3 Kunai's at him.
That blindside point isn't an adequate feat. Not when Itachi was literally sitting down casting genjutsu, which Sasuke simply saw through.
The bunshin feint was countered by Sasuke already [
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Databook link isn't working, but I'll take your word for it. Either way I don't see this being much of a factor, as Chidori Senbon should be countered by Itachi's Katon (which is strong enough to tear through the earth) or his own shurikenjutsu..
My bad, it basically says Sasuke can increase the number of senbon to thousands should he put more chakra into it.
Chidori* Senbon** (千鳥千本, Chidori Senbon)
Ninjutsu, A-rank, Offensive, Short to mid-range (0-10m)
User: Uchiha Sasuke
Assaulting the enemy with a "Chidori," shaped into flock of thousands of needles!!
This is also a variety of "Chidori" "shape transformation". The same technique as the pinnacle of Lightning nature, it is specialised in more speed, by being transformed into countless sharp "senbon," all aimed and fired at the enemy. As this flock of dazzling needles soars, the chakra gives off a sound like "chichichi," really making it seem like a thousand birds! It can become even more effective by using it together with the "Sharingan," allowing one to precisely shoot for the enemy's vitals.
[picture of Sasuke shooting out his Chidori Senbon] ↑By increasing the amount of chakra used, the number of "senbon" also increases!
*Chidori (千鳥) means "a thousand birds". It's from a story about a sixteenth-century military commander named Tachibana Dousetsu, who owned a sword named the Chidori. One day, he was struck by lightning while sitting under a tree. Acting quickly, he drew his sword and cut the Thunder God riding the lightning. This saved his life and after this incident, he changed the name of his sword from Chidori to Raikiri (雷切, "Lightning Cutter").
**Senbon are a special kind of needle, used, for example, in acupuncture. Haku fought using these
Itachi's Katons and shuriken would be effective at mid range, not at close range as there is virtually zero time for them to do anything about it.
Sure, he could do that, but those weren't exactly very fast attacks that Sasuke utilized a snake summoning to defend against. Not very fast in a sense that that tossing Kunai's or Deidaras clay birds are even close to comparable to Itachi's shunshin speed, as I highlighted above. Against Itachi's Katon and Suiton however, I definitely can see this as a viable defense. But it should be noted that the snake will block Sasukes LOS, and Itachi will capitilize on that. I'd like to see Sasuke's aerial capabilites if you don't mind, because I don't see how hovering is accomplishing much when Itachi can easily mount a bird hovering
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in the sky. In regards to the snakes, well I suppose genjutsu could be used against them if Sasuke attempts at utilizing them in a offensive purpose...
Itachi's Shunshin in which he needed a distraction beforehand to blitz Sasuke? Not with full knowledge it isn't. The snakes don't always block Sasuke's LoS [
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As for flight [
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What are you trying to show me in that scan? That's Nagato's summon, Itachi can't mount that. He's definitely not mounting a small ass crow like that either.
Taijutsu wise, Itachi rapes Sasuke. Genjutsu wise, Itachi stomps Sasuke. Ninjutsu wise, Hebi Sasuke still retains to the period he fought Bee, which implies he has MS and the arsenal he developed with it. That includes Amaterasu. Itachi could barely even dodge Kirin with MS, being saved by Susanoo. I'm sure Sasuke stomps low-high dif. R.I.P Itachi
I pretty much answered this in my previous post. Like I said, Sasuke was simply arrogant and believed he could handle Bee's dexterous movements; Sasuke was far from being one panelled, as he did momentarily keep up [
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Bee never attempted his sword dance against Kisame so you cannot really make that comparison. Kisame is a different story as his ability to absorb chakra in CQC gave him a massive advantage.
I understand that, but the fact of the matter is he was pressured by it from the start, as indicated. There was never any indication of Itachi being pressured by Bee in the sense that he couldn't follow his movements; and if he truly was, a simple ribcage would more then sufficed in that scenario. The only thing you have here is that Bee was forcing him backwards, because of Bee's overwhelming force. That doesn't at all imply Itachi was ever incapable of following his unorthodox movements. As you mentioned yourself, Sasuke didn't get one-paneled by it; and we both agree on the fact that Itachi is superior in nearly every category that would entail in CQC. So why are you still claiming that Itachi couldn't handle it? Yeah, he jumped away, but that was to immediately attempt at breaking out of ET's control. There was no need to completely avoid Bee in that scenario, when he could of easily have been countered with susano'o if he was ever truly pressured as you're suggesting, or if he was trying to really combat Bee.
Keeping the underlined in mind, don't you think it would of been smarter for Bee to then rely on his base form then? He didn't because he must of felt it wasn't sufficient enough to take him down, hence why he repeatedly relied on the Hachibi's chakra despite knowing Kisame could absorb it.
And what other times do you suggest he use it? The people he fought were an airborne Deidara and a bed ridden Orochimaru. Itachi too, but that was hardly a CQC engagement save for a few skirmishes. It was predominantly ninjutsu and genjutsu. The time he used it against team 7 is irrelevant as it can be used in other ways, it isn't specific to just one usage. He has knowledge on Sasuke's ration and a few of it's variants, but not Nagashi in particular; the databook makes clear that those who see will be fooled immediately. For all we know Itachi was trying to avoid electrocution or piercing damage, not getting completely immobilised.
I never said it was specific to just one usage, but rather it's only been shown useful with a good window of time. Forgot to mention he used it
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as well. I just don't see how this is going to be successfully used against someone who is much more proficient then him in CQC engagement, where windows of using it are extremely small with very brief contact. Faster execution wins here, and that goes to Itachi. He got blitzed by sick Itachi without a reaction, albiet with a distraction, but this is healthy Itachi who is faster (refer to his shunshin feat against Nagato). He isn't getting even close to the amount of ample time that he did when it was used against Naruto, Sai, and Deidara's clay snakes. Then we haven't taken into consideration that Itachi likes to send in bunshins first, just as he did
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(Sasuke was grappling with the bunshin) to completely avoid scenario's like these.
You've basically proven my point. Kabuto avoided Sasuke's initial Susano'o arrow with no problems whatsoever [
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Umm... You seem mistaken. I'm not arguing whether Itachi directly blitzed Kabuto or not. My premise entailed Itachi's shunshin being nigh susano'o arrow speed. That was my whole point, which you pretty much just supported.
The bunshin feint was countered by Sasuke already [
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It was countered with a lack of intent to actually kill him. Itachi tossed 3 kunais at him, let's be real here. So that doesn't say much at all. You're forgetting that this isn't sick Itachi. Unless proven wrong after you practically just supported the notion, Edo Itachi was capable of shunshin'ing nigh susano'o arrow speed, and that is what healthy Itachi should be capable of doing as well. Distraction or not, Hebi Sasuke's not physically reacting to what Kakashi and Danzou could not, and something a top tier such as Bee couldn't even track.
My bad, it basically says Sasuke can increase the number of senbon to thousands should he put more chakra into it.
Chidori* Senbon** (千鳥千本, Chidori Senbon)
Ninjutsu, A-rank, Offensive, Short to mid-range (0-10m)
User: Uchiha Sasuke
Assaulting the enemy with a "Chidori," shaped into flock of thousands of needles!!
This is also a variety of "Chidori" "shape transformation". The same technique as the pinnacle of Lightning nature, it is specialised in more speed, by being transformed into countless sharp "senbon," all aimed and fired at the enemy. As this flock of dazzling needles soars, the chakra gives off a sound like "chichichi," really making it seem like a thousand birds! It can become even more effective by using it together with the "Sharingan," allowing one to precisely shoot for the enemy's vitals.
[picture of Sasuke shooting out his Chidori Senbon] ↑By increasing the amount of chakra used, the number of "senbon" also increases!
*Chidori (千鳥) means "a thousand birds". It's from a story about a sixteenth-century military commander named Tachibana Dousetsu, who owned a sword named the Chidori. One day, he was struck by lightning while sitting under a tree. Acting quickly, he drew his sword and cut the Thunder God riding the lightning. This saved his life and after this incident, he changed the name of his sword from Chidori to Raikiri (雷切, "Lightning Cutter").
**Senbon are a special kind of needle, used, for example, in acupuncture. Haku fought using these
Itachi's Katons and shuriken would be effective at mid range, not at close range as there is virtually zero time for them to do anything about it.
Itachi's Shunshin in which he needed a distraction beforehand to blitz Sasuke? Not with full knowledge it isn't. The snakes don't always block Sasuke's LoS [
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As for flight [
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]. As it stands Itachi has no counter for Sasuke taking flight and setting up Kirin.
What are you trying to show me in that scan? That's Nagato's summon, Itachi can't mount that. He's definitely not mounting a small ass crow like that either.
No, the shunshin that was nigh susano'o speed, and the one that was executed faster then Nagato's realization that his shared vision has been blocked. And that snake obviously had to completely coil around Sasuke's head to protect him from the blast.
My point with the bird summoning is that Itachi can jump extremely high and fast, so Sasuke's hovering in the air wouldn't be beyond Itachi's reach. But that's all irrelevant as I completely forgot that the intel is manga and the location is the Uchiha Hideout. If Sasuke ever attempts to blast through the ceiling, Itachi would immediately know what he's aiming for and will be stopped.
I know, I'm just saying as I've seen it's getting tossed around for fun that Itachi blitzed Bee, which is far from what happened. Anyways thanks for that, it was fun but it's too long to continue and the second round of the tourney should be starting tomorrow if i'm not mistaken.
I know, I'm just saying as I've seen it's getting tossed around for fun that Itachi blitzed Bee, which is far from what happened. Anyways thanks for that, it was fun but it's too long to continue and the second round of the tourney should be starting tomorrow if i'm not mistaken.
Not even debatable now, Itachi takes this, Sasuke would not have the single time to make Kirin, just look at the prep time, Itachi can do evrything Sasuke do but better, I don't know what to add here. + He's bloodlust.
While this is true, Itachi can still Bunshin feint it and make Sasuke waste a shit load of chakra as he would be creating his own electrical discharge between ionised protons and electrons.
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