Sasuke should learn Sage mode

[Nagi]

My comment was meant more as why would Kishi take away unique aspects of each character, Sasuke representing ying with powerful eyes and Naruto representing yang with a strong body.

True. The more reason why Sasuke should learn Avatar state. Have access to the spiritual energy of the impure world.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Then explain how Naruto defeated Pain if SM was useless.

Let me help you out with this. A lot of credit of Naruto's victory can be given to Kurama, among all the other reasons. We all know that SM Naruto is no match for Nagato (Pain). But before I start with this, let me make it clear that I'm not of the opinion that SM is useless. It's weak against the Rinnegan though (I'm mentioning this because we're discussing Pain who had the Rinnegan).

Now, just so you understand it better, let me give you a little insight of Naruto vs Pain fight:

1. Nagato was using the Six Paths of Pain. This means that his chakra was being distributed evenly among every Path, so every Path received 1/6 of Nagato's chakra, which means that Nagato could only use 1/6 of the total power of his jutsus from each Path using the Six Paths of Pain.

2. On top of that, Nagato was channeling his chakra to the Six Paths of Pain, so the strength and speed of his jutsus was considerably decreased.

3. On top of using 1/6 of total power which is further weakened by decreased strength and speed of jutsus, Nagato had already used so much chakra in his battle against Konoha. He fought so many shinobis including Kakashi, not to mention the almighty Shinra Tensei which destroyed the entire village. All of this activity prior to his fight with Naruto consumed a huge amount of chakra, so he started his fight with considerably depleted chakra levels.

4. On top of using 1/6 of total power which is further weakened by decreased strength and speed of jutsus, and having used so much chakra before and slight exhaustion, and even on top of losing all the other Paths including the regeneration Path as the fight continued, he easily fought Naruto and effortlessly pinned him down using only the Deva Path.

5. Even after all the aforementioned reasons, and fighting with only the Deva Path, he could have easily killed SM Naruto, only if he wanted to. Since Naruto was a jinchuuriki, he couldn't kill Naruto. So, Naruto had a tremendous advantage due to this restriction.

CONCLUSION TILL NOW
Deva Path only (with an immensely depleted chakra reserves and considerably exhausted, and the strength and speed of his jutsus decreased, and even having no intention of killing Naruto) > SM Naruto​

6. So now we have a severely weakened, exhausted and low on chakra reserves Pain (Deva Path only, mind you) who can't use the maximum strength and speed of his jutsus, and has no intention of killing Naruto, even after that he was able to counter Naruto's six tailed form, full of rage, and fought on par with him.

7. EVEN AFTER ALL THOSE DISADVANTAGES ON PAIN'S SIDE AND Naruto's sudden burst of power thanks to Kurama, Pain was able to dominate Naruto using Chibaku Tensei.

CONCLUSION TILL NOW
Deva Path ONLY (weakened, exhausted and low on chakra, decreased strength and speed of jutsus, plus no intention of killing Naruto) > SM Naruto + Six Tailed form (enraged)​

8. Even after ALL THAT, Naruto was completely owned by Pain. So he had to push further and unleash the eight tailed form, only then he was able to fight back Pain with the upper hand.

CONCLUSION TILL NOW
SM Naruto + EIGHT Tailed form (enraged) > Deva Path ONLY (weakened, exhausted and low on chakra, decreased strength and speed of jutsus, plus no intention of killing Naruto)​

OK, so that's what it takes for Naruto to overpower Pain. Impressive!

8. Even after all that, Naruto completely ran out of Sage Mode while Nagato still had enough chakra to revive so many of Konoha's shinobis. Even then if Nagato wished to destroy Naruto, he could have easily done that, unless Kurama intervened again to save Naruto.

Nagato said it best who his main opponent was:

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BTW, we've already seen how well Nagato could handle Naruto, Bee and Itachi combined, during the war. If it weren't for Itachi's Totsuka Blade sealing and saving Naruto and Bee on time, they would've been in serious trouble.

 

[super michael]

My comment was meant more as why would Kishi take away unique aspects of each character, Sasuke representing ying with powerful eyes and Naruto representing yang with a strong body.

I see what you mean Sasuke represent power in the eyes, while Naruto is power in the body, but before Sasuke got Mangekyou sharingan I don't think that was the case.

In part 1 it was stated by Lee that Sharingan alone won't win a battle if the body isn't strong enough or fast enough to counter the opponent.

In valley of the End part 1, before Naruto was 1 tail mode and Sasuke got 3 tomoe Sharingan, they both seemed strong in body.

When Naruto, Sai, Sakura and Yamato was there, Sasuke body seemed to be really strong, Sasuke powers wasn't from his eyes.

When Sasuke got mangekyou sharingan that when things changed.

 

[Ace95]

True. The more reason why Sasuke should learn Avatar state. Have access to the spiritual energy of the impure world.

Yeah, true don't get me wrong Sasuke is my favourite and I would like if he did learn it, but I just don't think he will for the same reason I don't expect him to pull out rasengan.

 

[Madara the Solo King]

Let me help you out with this. A lot of credit of Naruto's victory can be given to Kurama, among all the other reasons. We all know that SM Naruto is no match for Nagato (Pain). But before I start with this, let me make it clear that I'm not of the opinion that SM is useless. It's weak against the Rinnegan though (I'm mentioning this because we're discussing Pain who had the Rinnegan).

Now, just so you understand it better, let me give you a little insight of Naruto vs Pain fight:

1. Nagato was using the Six Paths of Pain. This means that his chakra was being distributed evenly among every Path, so every Path received 1/6 of Nagato's chakra, which means that Nagato could only use 1/6 of the total power of his jutsus from each Path using the Six Paths of Pain.

2. On top of that, Nagato was channeling his chakra to the Six Paths of Pain, so the strength and speed of his jutsus was considerably decreased.

3. On top of using 1/6 of total power which is further weakened by decreased strength and speed of jutsus, Nagato had already used so much chakra in his battle against Konoha. He fought so many shinobis including Kakashi, not to mention the almighty Shinra Tensei which destroyed the entire village. All of this activity prior to his fight with Naruto consumed a huge amount of chakra, so he started his fight with considerably depleted chakra levels.

4. On top of using 1/6 of total power which is further weakened by decreased strength and speed of jutsus, and having used so much chakra before and slight exhaustion, and even on top of losing all the other Paths including the regeneration Path as the fight continued, he easily fought Naruto and effortlessly pinned him down using only the Deva Path.

5. Even after all the aforementioned reasons, and fighting with only the Deva Path, he could have easily killed SM Naruto, only if he wanted to. Since Naruto was a jinchuuriki, he couldn't kill Naruto. So, Naruto had a tremendous advantage due to this restriction.

CONCLUSION TILL NOW
Deva Path only (with an immensely depleted chakra reserves and considerably exhausted, and the strength and speed of his jutsus decreased, and even having no intention of killing Naruto) > SM Naruto​

6. So now we have a severely weakened, exhausted and low on chakra reserves Pain (Deva Path only, mind you) who can't use the maximum strength and speed of his jutsus, and has no intention of killing Naruto, even after that he was able to counter Naruto's six tailed form, full of rage, and fought on par with him.

7. EVEN AFTER ALL THOSE DISADVANTAGES ON PAIN'S SIDE AND Naruto's sudden burst of power thanks to Kurama, Pain was able to dominate Naruto using Chibaku Tensei.

CONCLUSION TILL NOW
Deva Path ONLY (weakened, exhausted and low on chakra, decreased strength and speed of jutsus, plus no intention of killing Naruto) > SM Naruto + Six Tailed form (enraged)​

8. Even after ALL THAT, Naruto was completely owned by Pain. So he had to push further and unleash the eight tailed form, only then he was able to fight back Pain with the upper hand.

CONCLUSION TILL NOW
SM Naruto + EIGHT Tailed form (enraged) > Deva Path ONLY (weakened, exhausted and low on chakra, decreased strength and speed of jutsus, plus no intention of killing Naruto)​

OK, so that's what it takes for Naruto to overpower Pain. Impressive!

8. Even after all that, Naruto completely ran out of Sage Mode while Nagato still had enough chakra to revive so many of Konoha's shinobis. Even then if Nagato wished to destroy Naruto, he could have easily done that, unless Kurama intervened again to save Naruto.

Nagato said it best who his main opponent was:

Spoiler

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BTW, we've already seen how well Nagato could handle Naruto, Bee and Itachi combined, during the war. If it weren't for Itachi's Totsuka Blade sealing and saving Naruto and Bee on time, they would've been in serious trouble.

Thanks man. I appreciate it, at least your are not a douche who is arrogant.

 

[Ace95]

I see what you mean Sasuke represent power in the eyes, while Naruto is power in the body, but before Sasuke got Mangekyou sharingan I don't think that was the case.

In part 1 it was stated by Lee that Sharingan alone won't win a battle if the body isn't strong enough or fast enough to counter the opponent.

In valley of the End part 1, before Naruto was 1 tail mode and Sasuke got 3 tomoe Sharingan, they both seemed strong in body.

When Naruto, Sai, Sakura and Yamato was there, Sasuke body seemed to be really strong, Sasuke powers wasn't from his eyes.

When Sasuke got mangekyou sharingan that when things changed.

I'm not saying Sasuke doesn't and can't have a strong body I just mean if you look at their dependence on eyes/body respectively over the course of the manga Sasuke has more reliance on his eyes, while Naruto has more reliance on his body. It's not that I don't think Sasuke can learn sage mode it's just I believe he wont.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Thanks man. I appreciate it, at least your are not a douche who is arrogant.

I'm glad to explain.

Probably for the same reason Naruto doesn't plant sharingan in his eye sockets and graft some of Sasukes' skin onto himself to try and unlock the rinnegan.

Sharingan is an Uchiha power, it has nothing to do with Naruto. Sage Mode is not an Uzumaki/Senju power, anyone who has the capability can learn it, and Sasuke has the capability.

 

[super michael]

I'm not saying Sasuke doesn't and can't have a strong body I just mean if you look at their dependence on eyes/body respectively over the course of the manga Sasuke has more reliance on his eyes, while Naruto has more reliance on his body. It's not that I don't think Sasuke can learn sage mode it's just I believe he wont.

Yes I agree with you with how the manga is going I doubt Sasuke would learn Sage mode.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Probably for the same reason Naruto doesn't plant sharingan in his eye sockets and graft some of Sasukes' skin onto himself to try and unlock the rinnegan.

That sounds ridiculous. Sasuke has most of the requirements for Sage Mode

-He can sense nature energy
-Has a massive chakra reserve
-Already experienced with Nature energy/Senjutsu

All he needs to do is learn how to gather nature energy, which isn't hard for him to do considering the Kyuubi noted his chakra control to be almost unrivaled/ on the Sage's level.

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Naruto replacing his eye with a Sharingan,and taking some of Sasuke's DNA is unnatural, and he wouldn't be able to deactivate his eye.

Bad comparison.

My comment was meant more as why would Kishi take away unique aspects of each character, Sasuke representing ying with powerful eyes and Naruto representing yang with a strong body.

You should have added that into your comment above.

 

[SatanicGod]

Didn't Orochimaru say you need a special body or something to become a dragon sage? Also I doubt the Snake elder likes Sasuke all that much, since he killed Manda and all.

Or the Snake Elder likes Sasuke even more for that. Seeing that action as cunning and a smart battle move. Snakes are all about treachery and all :bdpf:

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

What if there was a Hawk Sage Mode? Sasuke should learn that

 

[Fockboy]

naruto should get uchiha blood then for rinne

 

[xxsasukex]

you can't give sasuke sage mode. he already solos it would be more unfair than already is.