The blind-spot until the red bar area seems just about large enough for someone as small and lithe as Sakura to slip through.
Stop grasping at straws. By the time sakura reached whatever red bar you're talking about kaguya would still have enough time to dodge, she's a god.
Sakura hit her in the neck area unless I'm mistaken.
Sakura broker her horn off, meaning she hit her horn which is on the top of her head. She also went
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, meaning the fist came from straight up.
The exclamation marks when she got hit merely proves she either wasn't expecting to be hit, or that she didn't expect to get hurt.
Irrelevant, doesn't prove she didn't notice sakura prior to being hit.
I perfectly know what annotations are; and I'm not in middle school mate.
Then stop complaining about me using a fan-made site when the proof is right in front of your eyes.
I never even looked at the wiki page you posted. The wiki being a fan-made site makes me think 'don't look at it!'
Well then this just proves that you don't know what annotations are, because if you did then the wiki being fan-made would make no difference.
Unless it is absolutely backed up by evidence than I don't consider it usable, I doubt I'd get away with using it if I did anyway.
Which it is via annotations, & someone who knows what those are would say the same thing.
Kamui is one of the most hax abilities in the entire Manga, the Jutsu being amplified by something as strong as Rikudou chakra means it's going to be really powerful.
Power =/= speed. & Kamui never boosted kakashi's speed, why are you repeating the same things that have already been addressed?
I never said that Sasuke's foot/striking speed wasn't faster than Kakashi's own foot/striking speed.
That's exactly what you're saying if you believe kakashi blitzed kaguya, how many times am I going to have to keep saying this?
What I did say was that Kakashi with Kamui is comparable, if not faster than Sasuke's foot/striking speed.
Which is completely irrelevant because kamui never increased kakashi's speed whilst charging kaguya. Smfh, kakashi used his own footspeed to blitz kaguya, I don't care if you think kamui makes kakashi comparable to sasuke in terms of movement speed, that still doesn't mean anything. Your logic says that kakashi w/o kamui >>> sasuke's regular speed.
Maybe if you can prove she even did sense Sakura my friend.
Her sensory abilities are passive, she had no reason to sense anyone but naruto yet she
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the others in her dimension. BZ also immediately sensed obito & sakura enter & leave her dimension, so he has passive sensory abilities as well. You need to prove that her sensory abilities were for some reason turned off [if she can even do that] if you want to claim that she didn't sense her.
1. Either Kaguya for some reason didn't sense the build up, or opted to tank it.
@Bold: Lol nice speculation, but that doesn't hold. @The rest: Wtf is this, now you're using my own points against me? You must seriously be dense. If she opted to tank sakura's attack then she opted to tank kakashi's, this is a concession in my eyes.
Which doesn't cover the top of her head or her horns.
3. It's a fairly logical conclusion though.
That doesn't make it proof.
Lol Okay.
Still repeating the same thing w/o proof? Ridiculous. U_U
When Kakashi blitzed Kaguya she was a fair ways away from Naruto and Sasuke and didn't have to deal with them at the time.
Irrelevant to my goddamn point. That doesn't mean she was worried about kakashi's attack considering she never dodged it despite noticing it. It was maybe a blitz in your eyes but kaguya not dodging =/= kakashi blitzing her, so please learn that before replying to me again.
Whereas with Sakura's case Naruto and Sasuke were within arm's length of Kaguya when she propelled herself upwards fast enough to dodge them.
So? That doesn't make sakura as fast as rikudou enhanced characters.
Physics says she wouldn't have been able to dodge Sakura because of that reason.
Then you don't know how to apply physics to this discussion.
What you're referring to is momentum, you're claiming that kaguya's momentum was too great & so she couldn't change her flight trajectory when she noticed sakura hitting her. Yet what you don't realize is that this claim falls apart once I ask for proof that kaguya can fly with so much momentum that changing her trajectory has been shown to be a difficult task.
Since you can't prove that kaguya couldn't simply move forward or backwards due to her momentum being too great then you have no point. Kaguya flying up to avoid naruto & sasuke doesn't mean she was unable to dodge an attack from above.
Flight is still a part of gravity.
The only thing about flight relating to gravity is weight. If you can support your own weight via flight then gravity doesn't apply to you.
Yet you gave no proof she even opted to tank Kakashi's Raikiri....oh wait what were you saying about speculation before?
Smh.. I don't need it. Point here is that kaguya deciding to tank kakashi's attack makes more sense than kakashi being faster than sasuke. Unless you can prove that kaguya
wasn't planning on tanking it then my claim makes more sense than yours. Burden of proof is on you.
No, my logic is Sasuke (with Amenotejikara)>>Sasuke (foot/striking speed) and Kakashi>>Sakura (I edited the previous post).
Wrong, your logic doesn't say that & merely making a statement such as "My logic is..." doesn't magically change the way your logic actually works. Your logic = Kakashi > Sakura >> Sasuke, deny it & try to correct it all you want but until you drop this charade of an argument then that's what it's saying.
I have arguments of my own thank you very much.
Sorry, but you really don't.
Never did. Merely stated that Gai's ability to hurt Madara was because of the 8th Gate and not because it was Taijutsu.
Which is the biggest pile of horsesh*t I've ever read, prove such a claim. 8G = taijutsu meaning the attacks that hurt madara were taijutsu, conclusion?
Taijutsu can damage juubi jins. Nowhere in the manga does it say that the 8G was the sole reason for madara getting hurt.
And that Sakura Taijutsu doesn't equate to Gai's 8th Gates special capabilities.
8G = Taijutsu = Sakura's punch, it's all the same thing albeit each has a different level of power, but power is irrelevant when someone like obito can punch through madara's stomach.
Jinchuriki's chakra merge with their Bijuu's mate, it's common knowledge.
This doesn't mean that some chakra gets left over post-extraction.
Thus why I said that a little bit of residue was left over.
Thus why I gave you examples of how that's clearly not the case. Doesn't in any way prove that obito has some of the juubi's chakra post-extraction.
Naruto was given more chakra by Kurama throughout the war arc, yet even with the chakra refills he was still tired. That is my argument for why chakra doesn't equate not being tired anymore.
Then you need to reread the entire war arc & come back here. Specifically look up when the god tree sucked
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, then once he gained a
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he was back up on his feet.
This has happened on multiple occasions throughout the war arc. The only time that kurama's chakra didn't revitalize him was during VoTE2 because they were both low, every other time he gained chakra he was ready to fight.
& This is about kakashi anyways, I gave you proof that kakashi w/ more chakra gained more stamina yet you're
still going to deny? You brought naruto into this when he isn't kakashi just so you can try & have a point, but you don't, enough chaklra increases someone's stamina & physical ability. It's written for you in black & white.
Because we didn't see him charge, one moment he was at one spot and the next he had just gone through Kaguya.
So now you're going to use another fallacy? Appealing to ignorance. Absence of evidence =/////= evidence of absence, us not seeing kakashi reach kaguya isn't proof that he teleported to her. & Before you try & say that it is then I guess naruto has a s/t jutsu too since one moment he's
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& the next thing we know he's
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. Lol
Never even implied Kamui made him faster.
Yes you did, but whatever. Not even going to entertain this anymore, it's irrelevant.
What I did mean was that because he can stay intangible as his Raikiri hits his opponent, than he doesn't actually have to physically hit them, thus why I say that Kakashi with Kamui is comparable or faster than Sasuke's foot/striking speed.
This doesn't make him faster,
INTANGIBILITY DOESN'T MAKE YOU FASTER, not being able to get hit
DOESN'T MAKE YOU FASTER THAN YOUR OPPONENT. I guess MS obito > rinnegan sasuke since kamui makes him faster. Right?
Kakashi still used his footspeed to reach kaguya.
Bold. I posted that to show that it's very possible that Kakashi used Kamui to teleport to Kaguya.
Possible or not, it didn't happen w/o proof.
Never even mentioned Kakashi's foot speed.
You don't have to, by saying kakashi blitzed kaguya w/ kamui raikiri you're saying that kakashi's FOOTSPEED surpasses sasuke's, since intangibility didn't increase kakashi's footspeed. Basic logic.
It doesn't matter anyway since VOTE2 Sasuke (the one that wasn't holding back) is faster.
Irrelevant, not talking about that sasuke, talking about the kaguya fight sasuke.
It's very possible that he did teleport to Kaguya.
I don't care, it's possible that hagoromo has PS, it's possible that adult sasuke can use all the rinnegan's paths, & it's possible that he can use them better than nagato can. Until you can prove it this point means nothing.
Read above, you don't have to state it, your logic does.
I don't like being proven wrong, but when push comes to shove I can admit defeat.
Clearly.
My grammar is incomprehensible?
For that quote I apparently misinterpreted, yes.
And yes your grammar can be shit sometimes, but it's still better than some of the other people on the site..
As long as people can understand me that's fine, if there's something extremely wrong w/ my grammar then I'll fix it for next time, that's the joy of learning.
I'm a lazy bastard that doesn't feel motivated to use proper grammar for anything but when I write my books/stories. Sometimes I try hard but it just doesn't work. I don't know why.
The grammar I use for debates is pretty mediocre. I was comparing the grammar I can employ compared to the grammar I use in debates.
W/e, this is off topic. As long as I can read it I don't have a problem.
Hopefully you've seen an improvement in my grammar, as I did try.
I can understand it, so it's fine.
