The Martyr of Konoha: The Itachi Uchiha FC
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Time for another random question!
If you had wished one thing for Itachi, what would it have been? Your answer can be about ANYTHING- lover, finding peace sooner, new jutsu, etc.
This is really just a fluff question so feel free to go into the realm of "what could have been." For me, I would have wished for him a family- even if briefly or only a fling.
If you had wished one thing for Itachi, what would it have been? Your answer can be about ANYTHING- lover, finding peace sooner, new jutsu, etc.
This is really just a fluff question so feel free to go into the realm of "what could have been." For me, I would have wished for him a family- even if briefly or only a fling.
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Ooooh I like this one! I wish he had realized his mistake(s) during his life, perhaps even early on (as in before he decided to go through with he massacre), and chosen to perhaps KA Fugaku or just do something to prevent the coup. Or maybe he could have implanted Shisui's eye and had one EMS (on his Tsukuyomi side). That is a little on the power-hungry side for Itachi, but in the shinobi world, power is necessary for one's voice to be heard (which is why Madara could not be TNJ'd at the end). I don't think he would have become Hokage, but I do believe that (assuming that my 'wish' for him altered nothing else about the story somehow lol) he and Naruto would have been the perfected Hiruzen/Danzo duo and I would just love to see how they would interact with each other and Sasuke as adults. There is a lot more I could say about this, but I haven't thought it out well enough lol. I will edit or post again with more thoughts on it
Hmm. This is a really nice question.~ Now, prepare for walls of text. xD
No, really. Walls of text.~ Now.
Actions and Techs
As far as his actions- I understand his circumstance. Glad he wasn't power-hungry and there wasn't any way for him to obtain EMS. (Shisui's eye was charging when he got it... that 10 yr wait time. Couldn't use KA and replacing one of his own eyes with Shisui's wouldn't give him EMS since they aren't siblings). EMS is overrated imo and diminishes character quality tbh... having Uchiha spam away techs w/o strategy or thinking is something I don't care for. Let it be known that I'm not a fan of PS, lol. Or enton and all of that nonsense. I liked Itachi's power level. Formidable, but not ridiculously op. Effective in battle, but not showy. It was well-done.
If I had to add some techs to his arsenal, I would add some larger crows to summon- ones that he can ride. That would be nice so he could go aerial which helps in fights. I find it funny that Sasuke randomly got a hawk summons out of nowhere and it was never explained how he came upon the contract (since to the reader's knowledge, he never had a master that used hawks), while Itachi was the first shinobi to use a type of bird summons' but did not.
I'd also add a sound genjutsu technique that would work in conjunction with the crows. Itachi has used ocular genjutsu and genjutsu involving touch (Izanami)- only thing that's missing is an auditory version. If an opponent hears the caws from one of his crows, they could be caught in genjutsu. xD
In the 4th databook- it actually gives an interesting reason as to why Itachi uses crow summons'. Shisui used crows when he was alive as well, so it was Itachi's way of honoring him/ giving him a little memorial via his fighting style. Doesn't have anything to do with the question, but I like Itachi's gesture for their friendship.
As an extra (insignificant detail), I would add a second summons'. Probably wolves. Wolves can be loners and are pretty solitary in nature. Nice fit for him. Plus, there's always the fact that it'd look cool and it would explain what he used prior to the crows.(;
Peace
Well, given his circumstance I don't think he could have found peace before his Edo Tensei closure session.
That's not to say I wish for him to remain stressed- just that his story is more impact-ful this way. Itachi's suffering and unyielding resolve are some of the most brilliant aspects of his character, as are the dichotomies within his personality that cause him to be the most complex character overall from Naruto and Naruto Shippuden. I really thought that Kishimoto managed to write his entire journey well.
It would just feel like a little less if that were to change and his suffering was diminished too early on. At least to me.
Family
I would actually really like to have seen him with a family. Just out of curiosity. I'm somewhat conflicted when it comes to this.
I could picture him raising twin boys most definitely and maybe a younger daughter.
I wouldn't like to since I don't know if Kishimoto could pull something like that off. Not meaning to bash all that much, but if Kishimoto pulled something like a ch 700 (random pairings- Choji x Karui?) on Itachi, I wouldn't enjoy it. I'd like any romantic relationship Itachi has to have actual depth like his friend/familial/comrade relationships did. I also would not like it to send off the message that every single pairing had in this manga: "You need someone to complete you". Itachi is complete as an individual, both as a shinobi and a person. He's not any less w/o a girl just as he's not any more with one. In any hypothetical relationship he'd be in, there would need to be mutual respect and understanding. I don't see anyone dominating the relationship, but just them moving together and enjoying each other's company.
As to why I'd like it, I actually saw a friend post this and it summarizes my thoughts on how he'd be if he had a lover and family:
If Kishimoto ever wanted to do an alternate-universe concept with Itachi, it would be pretty cool if he'd show this.
Or, even if years from now he decided to continue the manga via Itachi's own in-verse series (or just a short continuation of the current series but with flashbacks pertaining to Itachi like Kakashi had for Kakashi Gaiden), he very well could add another plot twist. Like him having a family. xD Wouldn't be a retcon either, considering that it wouldn't contradict a thing. One of Itachi's major quotes fits the Naruto series perfectly (reality is subject to one's own interpretation and is a vague concept). At the end of the day, as readers we know Itachi's personality, his conflict, his crimes, his flaws, acts of heroism, and tragic circumstances... but only from a very narrow lense- Itachi's character was developed mainly through what others said of him. We rarely get his point of view. This is a method Kishimoto chose to pursue in his writing to keep the character enigmatic. It works. Other indicators were Itachi's dialogue and his flashbacks (the truth he told) as an Edo Tensei.
My point is- we don't know much about Itachi outside of his mission. Almost nothing at all. Kishimoto just delved into Itachi's character for as much as was needed for the series to progress. He could go vastly more in depth, but chose not to since Itachi's not a main character. So, if Kishimoto were to add another aspect- like Itachi having unknown sons, a wife, even something like having some Uchiha clan members spared and relocated that night... it wouldn't be horribly far-fetched like some other aspects of this manga were. Especially since we don't know anything about Itachi's personal life other than who his family/best friends were and that he was in Akatsuki.
Though, it's not like Kishimoto is adding a family or another plot twist for Itachi soon, since he's satisfied enough with the character. Both a blessing and a sad conclusion, depending upon how one looks at it. Sasuke and Naruto have always been the ones that fuel the market for the series, it's all about them and their lives. Always has been. xD
P.S- Please, ignore any grammatical errors. Lol
As far as his actions- I understand his circumstance. Glad he wasn't power-hungry and there wasn't any way for him to obtain EMS. (Shisui's eye was charging when he got it... that 10 yr wait time. Couldn't use KA and replacing one of his own eyes with Shisui's wouldn't give him EMS since they aren't siblings). EMS is overrated imo and diminishes character quality tbh... having Uchiha spam away techs w/o strategy or thinking is something I don't care for. Let it be known that I'm not a fan of PS, lol. Or enton and all of that nonsense. I liked Itachi's power level. Formidable, but not ridiculously op. Effective in battle, but not showy. It was well-done.
If I had to add some techs to his arsenal, I would add some larger crows to summon- ones that he can ride. That would be nice so he could go aerial which helps in fights. I find it funny that Sasuke randomly got a hawk summons out of nowhere and it was never explained how he came upon the contract (since to the reader's knowledge, he never had a master that used hawks), while Itachi was the first shinobi to use a type of bird summons' but did not.
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I'd also add a sound genjutsu technique that would work in conjunction with the crows. Itachi has used ocular genjutsu and genjutsu involving touch (Izanami)- only thing that's missing is an auditory version. If an opponent hears the caws from one of his crows, they could be caught in genjutsu. xD
In the 4th databook- it actually gives an interesting reason as to why Itachi uses crow summons'. Shisui used crows when he was alive as well, so it was Itachi's way of honoring him/ giving him a little memorial via his fighting style. Doesn't have anything to do with the question, but I like Itachi's gesture for their friendship.
As an extra (insignificant detail), I would add a second summons'. Probably wolves. Wolves can be loners and are pretty solitary in nature. Nice fit for him. Plus, there's always the fact that it'd look cool and it would explain what he used prior to the crows.(;
Peace
Well, given his circumstance I don't think he could have found peace before his Edo Tensei closure session.
That's not to say I wish for him to remain stressed- just that his story is more impact-ful this way. Itachi's suffering and unyielding resolve are some of the most brilliant aspects of his character, as are the dichotomies within his personality that cause him to be the most complex character overall from Naruto and Naruto Shippuden. I really thought that Kishimoto managed to write his entire journey well.
It would just feel like a little less if that were to change and his suffering was diminished too early on. At least to me.
Family
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I would actually really like to have seen him with a family. Just out of curiosity. I'm somewhat conflicted when it comes to this.
I could picture him raising twin boys most definitely and maybe a younger daughter.
I wouldn't like to since I don't know if Kishimoto could pull something like that off. Not meaning to bash all that much, but if Kishimoto pulled something like a ch 700 (random pairings- Choji x Karui?) on Itachi, I wouldn't enjoy it. I'd like any romantic relationship Itachi has to have actual depth like his friend/familial/comrade relationships did. I also would not like it to send off the message that every single pairing had in this manga: "You need someone to complete you". Itachi is complete as an individual, both as a shinobi and a person. He's not any less w/o a girl just as he's not any more with one. In any hypothetical relationship he'd be in, there would need to be mutual respect and understanding. I don't see anyone dominating the relationship, but just them moving together and enjoying each other's company.
As to why I'd like it, I actually saw a friend post this and it summarizes my thoughts on how he'd be if he had a lover and family:
If Kishimoto ever wanted to do an alternate-universe concept with Itachi, it would be pretty cool if he'd show this.
Or, even if years from now he decided to continue the manga via Itachi's own in-verse series (or just a short continuation of the current series but with flashbacks pertaining to Itachi like Kakashi had for Kakashi Gaiden), he very well could add another plot twist. Like him having a family. xD Wouldn't be a retcon either, considering that it wouldn't contradict a thing. One of Itachi's major quotes fits the Naruto series perfectly (reality is subject to one's own interpretation and is a vague concept). At the end of the day, as readers we know Itachi's personality, his conflict, his crimes, his flaws, acts of heroism, and tragic circumstances... but only from a very narrow lense- Itachi's character was developed mainly through what others said of him. We rarely get his point of view. This is a method Kishimoto chose to pursue in his writing to keep the character enigmatic. It works. Other indicators were Itachi's dialogue and his flashbacks (the truth he told) as an Edo Tensei.
My point is- we don't know much about Itachi outside of his mission. Almost nothing at all. Kishimoto just delved into Itachi's character for as much as was needed for the series to progress. He could go vastly more in depth, but chose not to since Itachi's not a main character. So, if Kishimoto were to add another aspect- like Itachi having unknown sons, a wife, even something like having some Uchiha clan members spared and relocated that night... it wouldn't be horribly far-fetched like some other aspects of this manga were. Especially since we don't know anything about Itachi's personal life other than who his family/best friends were and that he was in Akatsuki.
Though, it's not like Kishimoto is adding a family or another plot twist for Itachi soon, since he's satisfied enough with the character. Both a blessing and a sad conclusion, depending upon how one looks at it. Sasuke and Naruto have always been the ones that fuel the market for the series, it's all about them and their lives. Always has been. xD
P.S- Please, ignore any grammatical errors. Lol
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Sasori is surprisingly high
and Kisame/Deidara surprisingly low But the winner was obvious
Naruto, Sasuke, and Itachi had sketches done by Kishimoto at the exhibition. Check this out~
No one looks better than Itachi in this sketch style.
Also, some more from the exhibition today:
Even an Uchiha bros sliding door.
And a random gif that doesn't relate to all of this.
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No one looks better than Itachi in this sketch style.
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Also, some more from the exhibition today:
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Even an Uchiha bros sliding door.
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More stuff from exhibition:
More stuff from exhibition:
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KayaUzumaki
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@Called A Genius- Great answer! That would have been interesting to see.
@Chie- Also a great answer! You always think things through thoroughly and I agree with pretty much everything you said. And I'm so jealous of the exhibition pics. I want to go to Japan so bad!
@Dannie- Agreed!
@Chie- Also a great answer! You always think things through thoroughly and I agree with pretty much everything you said. And I'm so jealous of the exhibition pics. I want to go to Japan so bad!
@Dannie- Agreed!
Most definitely. If Kishimoto had wanted him to go that route, then yeah.
The difference between Itachi and other antagonists is that efficiency is his main aim. Madara/Nagato/Obito/etc all talk before getting the job done. When Itachi is serious and wants to take someone down, he just does it no questions asked or answered. He'd also be more powerful as well. Taking Sasuke's eyes and getting EMS since they are compatible, not being merciful and cutting down (actually killing them) any threats in his way or competition- like Kabuto and Orochimaru, etc.
I do think that Nagato could have as well had he not been a follower at his core and listened to Naruto's claims of finding a way to peace in the future (though, Naruto did find peace since he is the reason the alliance between the 5 great nations is intact atm).
Obito would have pulled it off as well were it not for plot. He could have just kept quiet and rounded up all the jins, extracted the beasts, summoned the Juubi, and gone about casting IT quietly. Shinobi don't know what's secretly going on in a discreet area miles away from their village. And it's not like the villages avidly sent shinobi after the Akatsuki to avenge the jins. Claiming a war at the Gokage summit was not a bright idea on his behalf, Kishimoto just used that to further the story and bring us the war arc. However, he'd get trolled by Kaguya instead of Madz since he didn't know what the tablet really entailed and believed whole-heartedly in it. But in a way he'd have world domination since everyone would be stuck in a dream turning into Zetsus- he'd just not be in control and Kaguya would.
But if Itachi were to go about taking over the world, I could see him doing it more like Nagato's way. The characters are even somewhat foils of each other. Itachi also knows the pain of war and the devastation it causes, so it wouldn't be far-fetched to see him creating forms of punishment to those who go out of line. Basically being in charge via fear and people hating him (not like he cares for what people think of him).
Ao and Shikaku also mentioned that Itachi has the capability to control multiple people with genjutsu from beyond the range of sensors. If we were to go with some method that were even more in line with his character, he could use genjutsu control as a punishment. That way, ninja would be afraid to amass weapons when under contract to not, steal from other nations, etc.
I guess I could see him achieving it over the course of 5 or so years by eventually gaining enough power and leeway to basically make people put him in charge (gain intel on every major village and threaten to release it to enemies, basically blackmail as well), set up some rules, and if anyone doesn't act accordingly- they get a more honed form (he'd develop his techs better if world domination were the goal, being more fixated on power and have an EMS) of his genjutsu and lose free will for a term (depending on how bad the crime was).
/Sorry for wall of text.~
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How do you guys feel about these new spoilers? Itachi having a son (and a blonde-haired one at that), or someone wanting to get revenge on Sasuke for Itachi (which seems very counterintuitive)...
People are just twisting words and trolling.
The kid is not related to Itachi and atm the serious consensus until the chapter comes out is that he is one of Orochimaru's experiments (he studied the sharingan for over a decade, so this is not far off at all).
And as for the Akatsuki member, his dialogue is far off and not direct- like a Zetsu or someone being manipulated by genjutsu. Or someone for a different time or era (or been around for a long while) like Kurama and Hagoromo. He's either a pawn, or someone who knows/seen plenty and knows alot. However, he needs to be someone new if not being manipulated. (Every Konoha/Uchiha member he spoke to= direct way of saying things, Naruto/Sasuke/Shisui/Mother/Father= casual or direct, Akatsuki= laid-back). Meaning, he's not anyone Itachi met on panel for Shippuden or the original Naruto.
Itachi was mentioned as being the motivation to attack Sasuke, however, it seems as though Naruto Gaiden itself has very little to do with Itachi's character. Same goes with the two people given that Itachi didn't know them to our knowledge.
Anyway, for the plot (don't want to jump the gun since these are just spoilers but) involving Itachi- I just want to know how that Akatsuki member knows who Itachi is. And I assume the kid knows because the Akatsuki member informed him about him. Or, the antagonist of Naruto Gaiden brainwashed the kid to support him in order to mess with Sasuke.
/These theories are meaningless until the chapter is released. xD
Either way, Itachi's character is fine. Him being mentioned (whether being praised or insulted) even when deceased was a normal part of the series and doesn't change anything about his characterization. Dead people cannot control what goes on after their passing, after all.
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I've updated the group with new members. Quite amusing to see the usual lot have still flourished at Narutobase. It's been a year or two I believe. Next time I come online it'll be random of course. Chie, and anyone else that has survived, if you wish for me to message you just leave a visitor message or a private one and we can catch up. Now I go to bed