Is Gay Marriage A Civil Right's Issue? Should it be?

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Incest is sexual activity between family members or close relatives.[1][2] This typically includes sexual activity between people in a consanguineous relationship (blood relations), and sometimes those related by affinity, such as individuals of the same household, step relatives, those related by adoption or marriage, or members of the same clan or lineage.[3]

care to explain how it doesn't fit the definition?
 
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Incest is sexual activity between family members or close relatives.[1][2] This typically includes sexual activity between people in a consanguineous relationship (blood relations), and sometimes those related by affinity, such as individuals of the same household, step relatives, those related by adoption or marriage, or members of the same clan or lineage.[3]

care to explain how it doesn't fit the definition?
Your definition of sexual orientation:

Sexual orientation is an enduring pattern of romantic or sexual attraction (or a combination of these) to persons of the opposite *** or gender, the same *** or gender, or to both sexes or more than one gender
Your definition of incest:

Incest is sexual activity between family members or close relatives.
Summarized; incest: sexual activity between family members, sexual orientation: the attraction to one or two specific genders. Anyone who can read knows that incest isn't a sexual orientation. Do people who commit incest have sexual orientations? Duh, most likely, just like how 50 year old men who molest 10 year old little girls are most likely heterosexual, yet you label that as PEDOPHILIA and not heterosexuality. It's not an actual sexual orientation, but rather a sub-genre of sexuality that isn't an actual sexual orientation. It's pretty simple tbh, I don't get how you're not getting this. Incest is redudant to the topic at hand :)
 

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Your definition of sexual orientation:



Your definition of incest:



Summarized; incest: sexual activity between family members, sexual orientation: the attraction to one or two specific genders. Anyone who can read knows that incest isn't a sexual orientation. Do people who commit incest have sexual orientations? Duh, most likely, just like how 50 year old men who molest 10 year old little girls are most likely heterosexual, yet you label that as PEDOPHILIA and not heterosexuality. It's not an actual sexual orientation, but rather a sub-genre of sexuality that isn't an actual sexual orientation. It's pretty simple tbh, I don't get how you're not getting this. Incest is redudant to the topic at hand :)
I just gave you proof how it is. Don't blame me cause you're retarded. I got this off the LGBT website.

again, if two consensual incestual partners have ***, how is it not a sexual orientation? A sexual identity just verifies who you're attracted to

Homosexuality was considered a disease now it is an orientation. You're not using logic in the least bit
 
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I just gave you proof how it is. Don't blame me cause you're retarded. I got this off the LGBT website.

again, if two consensual incestual partners have ***, how is it not a sexual orientation?

Homosexuality was considered a disease now it is an orientation. You're not using logic in the least bit
Are you serious? Did you even read ANYTHING I said? :|
 

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Are you serious? Did you even read what I said? :|
I disproved your statement that's it not a orientation. Guess what, Asexuality is. If knew how to use Google you would know that

Don't see how this disproves what I said about homosexuality


You're talking in circles. If we take the definition of SO that was posted and applied to incest IE

A MALE BROTHER ATTRATCED TO HIS FEMALE SISTER AND ENGAGE IN SEXUAL ACTIVITY

Then incest fits the definition are you that brain dead that you cannot grasp that? It's not socially nor morally acceptable, therefore it won't be considered a Sexual Orientation
 
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I disproved your statement that's it not a orientation. Guess what, Asexuality is. If knew how to use Google you would know that

Don't see how this disproves what I said about homosexuality


You're talking in circles. If we take the definition of SO that was posted and applied to incest IE

A MALE BROTHER ATTRATCED TO HIS FEMALE SISTER AND ENGAGE IN SEXUAL ACTIVITY

Then incest fits the definition are you that brain dead that you cannot grasp that? It's not socially nor morally acceptable, therefore it won't be considered a Sexual Orientation
What in the hell Lol

You didnt disprove crap. You said asexuality and incestual activity was an sexual orientation, WHILST stating that a sexual orientation is someone who is attracted to one or more genders. You literally contradicted your WHOLE argument BY YOURSELF lmfao!
 

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What in the hell Lol

You didnt disprove crap. You said asexuality and incestual activity was an sexual orientation, WHILST stating that a sexual orientation is someone who is attracted to one or more genders. You literally contradicted your WHOLE argument BY YOURSELF lmfao!
I take you didn't read the article

You still can't disprove how incest is harmful besides reproductively

I'm done wasting my time
 
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I take you didn't read the article

You still can't disprove how incest is wrong

I'm done wasting my time
And you can't prove how bisexuality or homosexuality is wrong. Quit while you're behind dumbass.

I'm not here to disprove or prove incest's morality. I'm here for the debate over bisexuality/homosexuality's morality, which you failed to do anything to.

Incest = sexual relations with a family member.
Homosexuality = attraction to the same gender.

Both are irrelevant to each other PERIOD. Whether incest is wrong or not is IRRELEVANT to the subject at hand. You are so beyond stupid I swear to ****ing god
 

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And you can't prove how bisexuality or homosexuality is wrong. Quit while you're behind dumbass.

I'm not here to disprove or prove incest's morality. I'm here for the debate over bisexuality/homosexuality's morality, which you failed to do anything to.

Incest = sexual relations with a family member.
Homosexuality = attraction to the same gender.

Both are irrelevant to each other PERIOD. Whether incest is wrong or not is IRRELEVANT to the subject at hand. You are so beyond stupid I swear to ****ing god
I just explained to you how it's wrong you just don't use logic because it is shadowed in your fallacious thinking.

I did not ask you to prove incests morality I asked you to prove how it's harmful when reproducticity is not invovled and you failed to do so

You cannot grasp the concept of what sexual attraction, orientation or identity is. I'm stupid but when I slap you with proof then I am not thinking? Looks at join date

Explains a lot
 

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1. Since when we're airplanes against something we were meant to do as a species. Irrelevant point

2. Gay ppl cannot reproduce with each other. A group of homosexuals will die out a group of heteros won't

3.You missed my point

4. Ok? Homosexuals cannot reproduce, heteosexuals can also have birth detective babies and as I stated a million times before, there are ways around inbreeding
1. Your point is that a species were not designed to do it, therefore it is wrong. Our species was not designed to fly, therefore airplanes should be wrong by your standards. The fact that you see nothing wrong with flying in an airplane, despite our species not being designed to fly, shows that your point is hypocritical.

2. Not true. Sure, a group of gay men living on an island will eventually cause the island's population to die out, same with women, but they still have the capacity to reproduce and the potential too, same with a group of gay women on an island. But, mix the groups in with society, and they are still able to contribute to the species' goal of continuation through reproduction. They can receive sperm from donors, and the men can give sperm. Just because you're gay doesn't mean you can't contribute to the world's population.

A five year old boy and girl have even less capacity to reproduce than a group of gay men on an island, but the same potential. Would you then go to tell those two that their existence, as it is, is wrong? That it's harmful to the species, just because they have even less capacity to reproduce than gay people? No, you wouldn't, so to do so with gay people is hypocritical.

3. No, that's part of your argument. You don't get to make an argument that contributes to your overall point, then when someone counterargues it, just say "You missed my point." That's not how debating works. If one of the arguments you make that contributes to your point is faulty, then your point as a whole becomes less credible and more faulty.

Now that debate 101 is over, back to the argument itself. You said homosexuality once being considered a mental illness contributes to your outlook on why it's wrong. Not only is it not a mental illness, as Songbird pointed out, due to homosexuality not impeding on any mental functions of those who possess it, but just because that's how society viewed it at one point does not mean that is correct or the way it should be viewed. Black people and women having less rights at once in society's history is a testament to that. It is not a credible argument.



All aboard the retard train.

Asexuality literally means non sexuality, thus they have no sexual orientation. It's not a sexual orientation period, seeing as they have none. DUH.

No, incest doesn't fit the definition.
Asexuality is a sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is what you're attracted to, and asexuals are attracted to none in particular. Asexuality is the sexual orientation of being attracted to none.

You are right, however, in saying that incest is not a sexual orientation. Incest is a sexual act, not the orientation itself that causes people to commit the act. I don't know what the orientation for sexual attraction between family members is called.
 

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1. Your point is that a species were not designed to do it, therefore it is wrong. Our species was not designed to fly, therefore airplanes should be wrong by your standards. The fact that you see nothing wrong with flying in an airplane, despite our species not being designed to fly, shows that your point is hypocritical.

2. Not true. Sure, a group of gay men living on an island will eventually cause the island's population to die out, same with women, but they still have the capacity to reproduce and the potential too, same with a group of gay women on an island. But, mix the groups in with society, and they are still able to contribute to the species' goal of continuation through reproduction. They can receive sperm from donors, and the men can give sperm. Just because you're gay doesn't mean you can't contribute to the world's population.

A five year old boy and girl have even less capacity to reproduce than a group of gay men on an island, but the same potential. Would you then go to tell those two that their existence, as it is, is wrong? That it's harmful to the species, just because they have even less capacity to reproduce than gay people? No, you wouldn't, so to do so with gay people is hypocritical.

3. No, that's part of your argument. You don't get to make an argument that contributes to your overall point, then when someone counterargues it, just say "You missed my point." That's not how debating works. If one of the arguments you make that contributes to your point is faulty, then your point as a whole becomes less credible and more faulty.

Now that debate 101 is over, back to the argument itself. You said homosexuality once being considered a mental illness contributes to your outlook on why it's wrong. Not only is it not a mental illness, as Songbird pointed out, due to homosexuality not impeding on any mental functions of those who possess it, but just because that's how society viewed it at one point does not mean that is correct or the way it should be viewed. Black people and women having less rights at once in society's history is a testament to that. It is not a credible argument.





Asexuality is a sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is what you're attracted to, and asexuals are attracted to none in particular. Asexuality is the sexual orientation of being attracted to none.

You are right, however, in saying that incest is not a sexual orientation. Incest is a sexual act, not the orientation itself that causes people to commit the act. I don't know what the orientation for sexual attraction between family members is called.
this argument is circular and I'm honestly wasting my time at the end of the day, your argument is that is harmful and I have told you time and time again that there are ways to prevent having babies, you failed to even put up an argument about how it is wrong. It would be different that if you were in a relationship you had to produce, but that is not the case. Most of what I posted earlier refutes what you posted here. I'll ask you what the judge ask the guy in supreme court


What rights in the constitution do incestual couples infringe on?


Why is polygamy illegal even though it is harmless?
 
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this argument is circular and I'm honestly wasting my time at the end of the day, your argument is that is harmful and I have told you time and time again that there are ways to prevent having babies, you failed to even put up an argument about how it is wrong. It would be different that if you were in a relationship you had to produce, but that is not the case. Most of what I posted earlier refutes what you posted here
It's circular because you're debating style is "Say what I said before regardless of what the other person said." You are wasting your time because at the end of the day, your homophobia is simply a bigoted antiquated view of things, and you're not gonna change that by trying so hard to justify it.
 

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It's circular because you're debating style is "Say what I said before regardless of what the other person said." You are wasting your time because at the end of the day, your homophobia is simply a bigoted antiquated view of things, and you're not gonna change that by trying so hard to justify it.
Lol at homophobia after I just stated I don't care what homosexuals do.

You gonna answer my question?
 

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I don't use logic..yet you're the one being up incestuous relationships while the thread is focusing on homosexuality/bisexuality. You completely wandered off topic for no reason.
I asked you a simple question and you're the one that brought ridiculous claims. I used it to support my statement. Herp derp, which both of you still failed to refute
 
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I just explained to you how it's wrong you just don't use logic because it is shadowed in your fallacious thinking.

I did not ask you to prove incests morality I asked you to prove how it's harmful when reproducticity is not invovled and you failed to do so

You cannot grasp the concept of what sexual attraction, orientation or identity is. I'm stupid but when I slap you with proof then I am not thinking? Looks at join date

Explains a lot
You sit here talking about incestuous behavior on a thread about bisexual and homosexual activity. What relevancy do your semantics have to the topic at hand? None at all. Whether or not incest is harmful or not is irrelevant and redudant.
 
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I asked you a simple question and you're the one that brought ridiculous claims. I used it to support my statement. Herp derp, which both of you still failed to refute
You brought it to support your statement that homosexuality/bisexuality is wrong? That makes ZERO sense whatsoever. Incest is a completely different thing from hetero/homo/bisexualities. It doesn't help your argument at all.

Tell me then: what does proving whether or not incest is harmless/harmful have to do with homosexuality or bisexuality being wrong in any way at all? I'd love to hear your view on it, because all I've heard so far is a bunch of dumb semantics with no weight.
 
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