Is Gay Marriage A Civil Right's Issue? Should it be?

[Yubel]

Except the fact that we have a more developed conscience and higher intelligence. Once again, the argument that it is in nature so it is valid is bs because if that's the case, we have to look at everything they do being natural for us as well

Animals are capable of almost everything we're capable of except we're more intelligent, they too can be hateful etc.

 

[ComplexCity]

Animals are capable of almost everything we're capable of except we're more intelligent, they too can be hateful etc.

I know

Which is why I don't understand why ppl pick and choose what is and isn't natural when making a statement like that

 

[Strict]

Except the fact that we have a more developed conscience and higher intelligence. Once again, the argument that it is in nature so it is valid is bs because if that's the case, we have to look at everything they do being natural for us as well

Humans developed a better intelligence and as a consequence thereof moral. That's the only thing distinguishing us from animals. At the bottom line we have the same instincts as prescribed by nature. Sexuality and *** drive isn't one of those things distinguishing us from animals.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'd beg to differ. There's no proof that it's not controlled.

Good for you, you're wrong.

Guess I wasn't born straight, we're not born with our sexual orientation because we're not developed sexually, that's just common sense. The same goes for animals, if someone develops a certain way then others should admit that they're wrong and correct it. Homosexuality used to be a mental illness in the 80's but as the gay movement expanded everyone got rid of those studies. It doesn't change reality however, it's wrong to be gay not for religious or ethnic reasons but because it simply is and the sooner we accept that the sooner we can progress more as a species.

Yeah, and in the 20's, it was considered wrong for black people to work with white people and have the same rights. Not for any real reason, it just was.

That's not how the world works. You don't get to go "It's wrong just because." If you can't give an actual, practical reason why it's wrong, then it's not wrong.

Homosexuality doesn't need correcting.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Civil unions are legal contracts, they would/should fall under the constitution. Marriage is a religious ordeal. Religions are subjective to whatever they believe at the time.

So atheists shouldn't be allowed to get married?

Animals do a lot of "natural" things that would be considered inhumane so I don't see how this holds validity

So for those that say there are homosexual animals are you saying we should start acting like animals?
Approaching this from a different angle we could say homosexuality is a form of natural selection.

The argument that there are animals who practice homosexuality is not to say "It should be allowed" but to disprove the argument that "It's not natural."

 

[ComplexCity]

So atheists shouldn't be allowed to get married?




The argument that there are animals who practice homosexuality is not to say "It should be allowed" but to disprove the argument that "It's not natural."

once again there are alot of things found in Nature that are inhumane to humans.

it's not something should be brought up to support it and when debating about it that's what ppl do

 

[Yubel]

The argument that there are animals who practice homosexuality is not to say "It should be allowed" but to disprove the argument that "It's not natural."

It is not natural.

 

[Punk Hazard]

once again there are alot of things found in Nature that are inhumane to humans.

it's not something should be brought up to support it and when debating about it that's what ppl do

Okay? Did I say there were not?

Yeah, it can be brought up to support it. It's brought up when someone says "It's not natural." It's not the entire argument, but it's one argument specifically for when someone says it's unnatural. Homosexuality isn't inhumane, so the argument "Natural things can be inhumane" is not a good response.

It is not natural.

Animals are run completely by instinct and nature. If it can happen in nature without outside interference by man, it's natural, and homosexuality falls into that category. Sorry to burst your homophobic bubble, Yubel.

 

[YowYan]

Guess I wasn't born straight, we're not born with our sexual orientation because we're not developed sexually, that's just common sense. The same goes for animals, if someone develops a certain way then others should admit that they're wrong and correct it. Homosexuality used to be a mental illness in the 80's but as the gay movement expanded everyone got rid of those studies. It doesn't change reality however, it's wrong to be gay not for religious or ethnic reasons but because it simply is and the sooner we accept that the sooner we can progress more as a species.

Thought I'd see some decent threads after being absent for a couple of weeks but no; Tarded comments like yours keep slapping me in the face. Guess I'll stay absent for another while. sweet dreams, sheep

 

[ComplexCity]

Okay? Did I say there were not?

Yeah, it can be brought up to support it. It's brought up when someone says "It's not natural." It's not the entire argument, but it's one argument specifically for when someone says it's unnatural. Homosexuality isn't inhumane, so the argument "Natural things can be inhumane" is not a good response.



Animals are run completely by instinct and nature. If it can happen in nature without outside interference by man, it's natural, and homosexuality falls into that category. Sorry to burst your homophobic bubble, Yubel.

Based off your logic I can say that a female can eat the head of a male and it be perfectly ok since you know, it's found in Nature.

If you take one thing and say it's natural, you cannot dismiss everything else that is considered unnatural

 

[ComplexCity]

Okay? Did I say there were not?

Yeah, it can be brought up to support it. It's brought up when someone says "It's not natural." It's not the entire argument, but it's one argument specifically for when someone says it's unnatural. Homosexuality isn't inhumane, so the argument "Natural things can be inhumane" is not a good response.



Animals are run completely by instinct and nature. If it can happen in nature without outside interference by man, it's natural, and homosexuality falls into that category. Sorry to burst your homophobic bubble, Yubel.

Incest is also found in Nature btw

 

[Punk Hazard]

Based off your logic I can say that a female can eat the head of a male and it be perfectly ok since you know, it's found in Nature.

If you take one thing and say it's natural, you cannot dismiss everything else that is considered unnatural

Incest is also found in Nature btw

This is a rather simpleminded way of looking at things.

Is that found in nature? Yes. Would be harmful to those involved? Yes. Therefore, it's not allowed and viewed as wrong.

Is homosexuality found in nature? Yes. Would it be harmful to those involved? No. Therefore, it's allowed and isn't wrong.

 

[Conspirator.]

Thought I'd see some decent threads after being absent for a couple of weeks but no; Tarded comments like yours keep slapping me in the face. Guess I'll stay absent for another while. sweet dreams, sheep

Exactly. Saying it's a "mental illness" is bogus. We can't choose our sexuality. It makes zero sense.

 

[Klad]

I just finished my popcorns few mins ago, literally. ;_;

 

[ComplexCity]

This is a rather simpleminded way of looking at things.

Is that found in nature? Yes. Would be harmful to those involved? Yes. Therefore, it's not allowed and viewed as wrong.

Is homosexuality found in nature? Yes. Would it be harmful to those involved? No. Therefore, it's allowed and isn't wrong.

So you specificnally considered a sexual identity being found in Nature being a support but dimiss incest when it too is found in Nature?

A simple minded response and rather a circular one as well. Not only is there contraceptive techniques but there are ways to prevent it as well. Like I said, you cannot choose what you want to use and what it actually is. Inbreeding is found in Nature just like homosexuality

 

[Yubel]

Animals are run completely by instinct and nature. If it can happen in nature without outside interference by man, it's natural, and homosexuality falls into that category. Sorry to burst your homophobic bubble, Yubel.

Unnatural things can happen in nature too. You're doing something you were never designed to do.
A male shouldn't be attracted to another male, that's an unnatural thing period.

I'm not homophobic just because I'm not patting them on the back for it.

 

[Exaar]

You're doing something you were never designed to do.

Quite a funny thing to say when you yourself are sitting at a computer desk (or where ever you are) speaking to someone through the internet. Completely natural right?

Hell You think half of what we humans do nowadays is "As nature intended"?

 

[ComplexCity]

Quite a funny thing to say when you yourself are sitting at a computer desk (or where ever you are) speaking to someone through the internet. Completely natural right?

Hell You think half of what we humans do nowadays is "As nature intended"?

Who decides what is natural and what is not?

 

[Multiply]

Good for you, you're wrong.

Yes Riker, deny facts like religious nuts do. It will get you very far in life! You could probably get hired at Fox News or become a teabagger!

 

[ComplexCity]

Yes Riker, deny facts like religious nuts do. It will get you very far in life! You could probably get hired at Fox News or become a teabagger!

Don't see how bringing that up was relevant