Why didn't Sasuke use Genjutsu on the Raikage?

Plot shield?

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Sasuke owned Bee with The Solo Glance and the Hachibi saved him.Without the Hachibi helping Bee,Sasuke would have won.

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"I can't move"...*collaspses to the ground.*

Sasuke should have defeated the Raikage aswell.He was yet another person who was easily owned by Genjutsu.

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As you can see the Tsuchikage saved him.If it was one on one,then he would of died. All it take’s is eye contact,no Bijuu or teammate to save him,and he would have been done.

So why didn’t Sasuke use Genjutsu on the Raikage despite the Raikage looking into his eyes multiple times?

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Here’s another moment where he could of used it.

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The Raikage was clearly looking into his eyes to see when he would unleash Amaterasu so he could time it right and successfully dodge.

No one would have saved the Raikage because,
1)Sasuke could easily handle the Samurai
2)Sasuke could easily handle Darui
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3)Moments earlier Sasuke had already put “C”,the Raikage’s other bodyguard to sleep.

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" I can't move" ...*collapses to the ground.*

Madara did the same against the Raikage as Sasuke did against C.Suddenly appear infront of him,and trap him in Genjutsu from looking into his eye,and he was only saved due to getting the Tsuchikage's help,so we know he can’t counter it on his own.

Right before fighting the Raikage,Sasuke negged C with it from looking into his yes,yet he doesn't use Genjutsu against the Raikage when he was looking into his eyes.

I believe we all can agree this was a case of Plot Shield.
 
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Because of Ay's fighting style and MS Sasuke can't track Ay's shunshin.

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In the scan you showed but misinterpreted, Madara literally had to physically restrain Ay with Susano'o in order to force him inside his genjutsu.
 
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Maybe he tried but raikage quickscopped the hell out of that genjutsu.

FaZe Raikage.
Never heard of anyone dodging Eye contact Genjutsu.

Sasuke tried, but Raikage is too fast (faster than Killer Bee).
There's nothing suggesting that he tried.

Because of Ay's fighting style and MS Sasuke can't track Ay's shunshin.

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In the scan you showed but misinterpreted, Madara literally had to physically restrain Ay with Susano'o in order to force him inside his genjutsu.
Dude,he looked into Sasuke's eyes himself.


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And you nerfed that page.How about you post the full page instead of a panel from it?

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The Raikage's guard noted how Sasuke was keeping up with the Raikage,and he assumed Sasuke wouldn't be able to keep up with his lightning mode.

Well here's Sasuke seeing through the Raikage's movement while dodging,and making a pinpointed attack, despite being in Lightning mode.

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I've always speculated that he actually was trying to do exactly that when Suigetsu interfered. Which is why even though he showed he was more than capable of reacting to v1 Ay he didn't move, and was upset with Suigetsu for jumping between them but not with Jugo who interfered a few seconds before



Ot: Yeah he definitely could've used it in those moments
 
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Never heard of anyone dodging Eye contact Genjutsu.



There's nothing suggesting that he tried.



Dude,he looked into Sasuke's eyes himself.


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Raikage is too fast for genjutsu.
Madara grabbed Raikage (with Susano'o) and then used genjutsu on him.
 
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He's too fast for genjutsu.
Have you ever tried focusing on something tiny on a car moving at insane speeds. Don't, you won't be able to.
He himself made eye contact with Sasuke,and Sasuke made eye contact with him.

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I've always speculated that he actually was trying to do exactly that when Suigetsu interfered. Which is why even though he showed he was more than capable of reacting to v1 Ay he didn't move, and was upset with Suigetsu for jumping between them but not with Jugo who interfered a few seconds before


Exactly,Sasuke could keep up with the Raikage himself.The Raikage's guard noted on that,and assumed Sasuke wouldn't be able to keep up with his Lightning mode.

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Then alittle later we see Sasuke seeing through,and dodgeing the Raikage's lightning mode attack while having Chidori activated making a pinpionted strike (aiming for his heart).

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Raikage is too fast for genjutsu.
Madara grabbed Raikage (with Susano'o) and then used genjutsu on him.
Eye contact is all that's needed for Genjutsu,why do you think Kakashi,and Gai told Asuma,and Kureinai to not look into Itachi's eyes?

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He himself made eye contact with Sasuke,and Sasuke made eye contact with him.

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The only thing is, at that time, sasuke wasn't trying to genjutsu him. I'm sure he could have but he wasn't prepared to do it so he didn't.

Otherwise the raikage is generally safe from eye contact genjutsu since he is so fast, but he's not "too fast for genjutsu".
 

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Dude,he looked into Sasuke's eyes himself.
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Looking into his eyes doesn't mean genjutsu will land especially when Ay can execute his movements far faster than Sasuke can react or keep up physically and mentally.

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And you nerfed that page.How about you post the full page instead of a panel from it?

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Nerfed a page? Is that actually a term? :lmao:


The Raikage's guard noted how Sasuke was keeping up with the Raikage,and he assumed Sasuke wouldn't be able to keep up with his lightning mode.

Sasuke only briefly kept up with v1 Ay, he didn't assume Karin and Sasuke who couldn't track v2 Ay confirmed it. There you have it.



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Well here's Sasuke seeing through the Raikage's movement while dodging,and making a pinpointed attack, despite being in Lightning mode.

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No that's not a full body dodge, Sasuke simply ducked/bent down and stroke v1 Raikage. Far different from changing your position and then striking.
 
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Looking into his eyes doesn't mean genjutsu will land especially when Ay can execute his movements far faster than Sasuke can react or keep up physically.

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Nerfed a page? Is that actually a term?





Sasuke only briefly kept up with v1 Ay, he didn't assume Karin and Sasuke who couldn't track v2 Ay confirmed it. There you have it.

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No that's not a full body dodge, Sasuke simply ducked/bent down and stroke v1 Raikage. Far different from changing your position and then striking.
He kept up enough to be able to dodge A's Lightning speed attack while having Chidori activated,and making a pinpointed attack yet he couldn't keep up with them both making eye contact with each other looking directly in each others eyes?

A's too fast for eye contact? lol he even looked into Sasuke's eyes long enough to comment on how Sasuke has the Mangekyo.Also Sasuke was fully confident he could keep up with him,hence using Amaterasu initially,which was even more time with the Raikage looking into Sasuke's eyes. He could have used Genjutsu instead.

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Eye contact = instant effect - not 10 second delay to look at Sasuke's Mangekyo,and comment about it.Nor is there a 15 second delay to watch his eyes for 15 seconds while he builds up,and unleashes an Amaterasu.

Also Karin is the same girl who tried telling Sasuke about Izanagi thinking he hadn't already figured it out himself.She's not a reliable source to confirm Sasuke's skills.

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He kept up enough to be able to dodge A's Lightning speed attack while having Chidori activated,and making a pinpointed attack yet he couldn't keep up with them both making eye contact with each other looking directly in each others eyes?

A's too fast for eye contact? lol he even looked into Sasuke's eyes long enough to comment on how Sasuke has the Mangekyo.Also Sasuke was fully confident he could keep up with him,hence using Amaterasu initially,which was even more time with the Raikage looking into Sasuke's eyes. He could have used Genjutsu instead.

Please learn the difference between v1 and v2 Ay. v1 is the one who Sasuke was having difficulties keeping up. v2 is the one Sasuke can't track at all. Yes Raikage at his is far faster than what MS Sasuke can react to physically and mentally to land his genjutsu. Raikage having a glance at Sasuke's eyes doesn't mean Sasuke is fast enough to land his genjutsu.

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Also Karin is the same girl who tried telling Sasuke about Izanagi thinking he hadm't already figured it out.She's not a reliable source to confirm Sasuke's skills.

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If only this was relevant when Sasuke already showed inability to track Ay's top speed confirming what Karin said.

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Genjutsu is just a broken way of fighting. Kishimoto didn't even bother and just went with Ay is too strong.
I agree the Solo Glance is too powerful,it would be nice if Masashi made it so that perhaps the stronger the person is,the more they'd be able to resist it.Like actually showing them countering Genjutsu on their own.

He didn't go with A being too strong,he went with,"I'll have Sasuke not use it to end the match quickly,i hope the readers don't notice Sasuke not using Genjutsu on him despite obvious eye contact."

Hey Kishi,i noticed.

Lol,Solo Glance is too OP,take a look at the cowardly tactics when fighting against an Uchiha.

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"If it's one on one,run away."

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"If it's two or more on one,be sure to team up against him."

Such pride these people have.


Please learn the difference between v1 and v2 Ay. v1 is the one who Sasuke was having difficulties keeping up. v2 is the one Sasuke can't track at all. Yes Raikage at his is far faster than what MS Sasuke can react to physically and mentally to land his genjutsu. Raikage having a glance at Sasuke's eyes doesn't mean Sasuke is fast enough to land his genjutsu.

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If only this was relevant when Sasuke already showed inability to track Ay's top speed confirming what Karin said.

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Okay,good points.Sasuke indeed could not keep up with V2 Raikage,but V1 Raikage sure did take a good look at Sasuke's eyes,and how do you excuse him staring at Sasuke's eyes while he was building up Amaterasu?
 
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I agree the Solo Glance is too powerful,it would be nice if Masashi made it so that perhaps the stronger the person is,the more they'd be able to resist it.Like actually showing them countering Genjutsu on their own.

He didn't go with A being too strong,he went with,"I'll have Sasuke not use it to end the match quickly,i hope the readers don't notice Sasuke not using Genjutsu om despite obvious eye contact."

Hey Kishi,i noticed.
Yeah, though Genjutsu is an idiotic idea in my opinion. It should have just been a type of Ninjutsu. They don't have that much depth to be their own category. Also, the hint that Ay was too strong was when Ay said "You and your sharingan are nothing to me". Whenever a sharingan user is fighting someone above them they usually won't use genjutsu. It's Kishi's way of copping out and not giving a proper counter against it.
 
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Yeah, though Genjutsu is an idiotic idea in my opinion. It should have just been a type of Ninjutsu. They don't have that much depth to be their own category. Also, the hint that Ay was too strong was when Ay said "You and your sharingan are nothing to me". Whenever a sharingan user is fighting someone above them they usually won't use genjutsu. It's Kishi's way of copping out and not giving a proper counter against it.
A was just cocky,he was acting tough by talking down on the Sharingan even while he was passing out from being owned by Sharingan Genjutsu.

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Lol,this guy,and take another look at my comment above,you replied to it before i finished added in more info.
 
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