Why didn't Sasuke use Genjutsu on the Raikage?

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Yeah,Sasuke clearly had it in mind before doing it.It wasn't random.Yet Sasuke never had using Genjutsu on the Raikage when he made eye contact planned? Yeah,sure,lol.

My point is,Sasuke and the Raikage made eye contact,Sasuke is smart enough to plan things well,and logically would have had using Sharingan Genjutsu in the Raikage if he had the chance.

He had the chance yet didn't,why? Because of plot.Sasuke has used Sharingan Genjutsu numerous times since the start of part 2,even during the Raikage battle against C,yet he doesn't use it when he could against the Raikage.
He clearly didn't, considering it didn't happen. That, or he realized it would be pointless.

You use "plot" as if Sasuke using genjutsu on Raikage would have been "solo neg diff gg" or whatever. Like I've said before, it would be completely pointless when Darui could just release Ay from the genjutsu.
 

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He clearly didn't, considering it didn't happen. That, or he realized it would be pointless.

You use "plot" as if Sasuke using genjutsu on Raikage would have been "solo neg diff gg" or whatever. Like I've said before, it would be completely pointless when Darui could just release Ay from the genjutsu.

It didn't happen because of plot.Genjutsu would be very effective against the Raikage,it would put him to sleep,leaving him defenseless,then Sasuke could perhaps set him ablaze with Amaterasu while he can't move.

Sasuke could handle Darui. Launch Amaterasu at him,i wonder if the speed featless Darui would be able to dodge an attack that's known to be fast,hence taking a V2 A to be able to dodge.

That's how I know you're desperate, comparing sharingan genjutsu to sharinnegan/rikudo dojutsu Lol. Jog on pls.

I can look at a person and see their eye colour without having directly looked into their eyes. Theres a difference between looking at a person and staring directly into a persons eyes. Anyone one who lives an everyday life would know this, especially those who interact with lots of different people. I've met many friends and people yet I would never remeber their eye colors for each one, because most of them I didn't look directly into their eyes, only at them. Learn the difference. Of course judging by your number of posts, it makes sense at you don't get out much. You have almost the same number of posts as I, despite me joining here 2 yrs before.

Lastly, yes Ay saw Sasuke's eyes. Hat doesn't mean he looked directly into them, a simple glance at Sasuke's face and he'd see at his eye pattern is different.

It's not desperate dude.In all cases that Sasuke used Genjutsu he looked into his opponents eyes,and got them.That does not change from Sharingan,to MS,to EMS,to Rinnegan.

Eye contact = Time to cast Genjutsu.

And are you seriously throwing out personal insults? I actually just got back a week ago from being off for 4 months.

Exactly this, any god speed characters won't get affected by visual genjutsu, This includes lee, gai, ay....



Itachi =/= Sasuke
Itachi's 3T diversion genjutsu =/= Sasuke's MS paralysis genjutsu
Base Bee =/= V1 Ay

This whole post is completely irrelevant and doesn't really counter anything I said. Your argument would have made a little sense if Itachi caught V1 Ay in a genjutsu, which he did not. I really can't believe you're resorting to comparing different individuals that have shown different genjutsu feats against different people, and those two people being base Bee and V1 Ay on top of it. Lol

Anyway, just concede, because it's starting to get funny. If it'll make it better,the fact stands that EMS Sasuke can mindrape V2 Ay with no difficulty.



Lol... don't jump the gun.

Rinnegan Genjutsu negs any of the individuals listed. Any of them can be easily caught in a regular visual genjutsu if first restrained. If eye contact is maintained, EMS Sasuke can take out V2 Ay with genjutsu without even catching him with Susano'o, since he was able to track JJ Obito.

You missed the point.They both looked into Itachi/Sasuke's eye.Bee was caught,and Raikage should have been caught.That simple.

Its because he couldn't catch the Raikage in Genjutsu, because he didn't have the ability to track his v2 speed effectively to maintain eye contact for the required amount of time to put him under genjutsu. Don't forget that it was MS Sasuke who was fighting Ay.
What required amount of time? Are you forgetting Sasuke summoned Manda,and put him in Sharingan genjutsu in seconds? Yet casting Genjutsu on the Raikage while he is standing there looking into his eyes would take too long?
 
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Never heard of anyone dodging Eye contact Genjutsu.



There's nothing suggesting that he tried.



Dude,he looked into Sasuke's eyes himself.


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And you nerfed that page.How about you post the full page instead of a panel from it?

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The Raikage's guard noted how Sasuke was keeping up with the Raikage,and he assumed Sasuke wouldn't be able to keep up with his lightning mode.

Well here's Sasuke seeing through the Raikage's movement while dodging,and making a pinpointed attack, despite being in Lightning mode.

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First image of A looking at Sasuke was Sasuke activating his MS which A responded by going lightning armor level 2 and moving too fast for Sasuke to physically react; he had to use Susanoo to protect him on all sides. Sasuke wasn't keeping up with A in LA lvl 1, Sasuke can read movements easier when they move in a linear movement which A was doing and is what Bee was doing; both were faster than Sasuke. Sasuke even asked Karin to keep track of Bee's movements which he wouldn't need if his eyes could keep track of him.

Also Sasuke was only able to cast genjutsu on C because C was distracted as C said himself; capitalize on Juugo's distraction. A was pretty much fighting Sasuke and Juugo at first and was too fast for Juugo's point blank attack. A looked down after looking at Sasuke so for all we know Sasuke was about to use genjutsu since he just got to that spot himself.

In 1 on 1 fight Sasuke would have been seriously hurt or killed at the start lol suigetsu jumped in the way of A's attack , we can remove everyone else from the start of the fight and its Sasuke running at A without really thinking as Juugo was telling him to not rush in and how hot headed he was then A would dodge/block Sasuke attempt the hit him which is a killing blow for Sasuke at the level he's on at that time.
 

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Sharingan Genjutsu is casted through eye contact - Sasuke looked into the Raikage's eyes while the Raikage looked into his - Yet Masashi had Sasuke not use Genjutsu.

Very simple,yet people are argueing against the obvious.How does speed play a part when the Raikage was standing there making eye contact with Sasuke - Boom,right there Genjutsu,game over.
 

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First image of A looking at Sasuke was Sasuke activating his MS which A responded by going lightning armor level 2 and moving too fast for Sasuke to physically react; he had to use Susanoo to protect him on all sides. Sasuke wasn't keeping up with A in LA lvl 1, Sasuke can read movements easier when they move in a linear movement which A was doing and is what Bee was doing; both were faster than Sasuke. Sasuke even asked Karin to keep track of Bee's movements which he wouldn't need if his eyes could keep track of him.

Also Sasuke was only able to cast genjutsu on C because C was distracted as C said himself; capitalize on Juugo's distraction. A was pretty much fighting Sasuke and Juugo at first and was too fast for Juugo's point blank attack. A looked down after looking at Sasuke so for all we know Sasuke was about to use genjutsu since he just got to that spot himself.

In 1 on 1 fight Sasuke would have been seriously hurt or killed at the start lol suigetsu jumped in the way of A's attack , we can remove everyone else from the start of the fight and its Sasuke running at A without really thinking as Juugo was telling him to not rush in and how hot headed he was then A would dodge/block Sasuke attempt the hit him which is a killing blow for Sasuke at the level he's on at that time.
Your comments are always too long.Look at my post right above,and there you go.It's not hard.

And Sasuke already had MS activated,hence him using Susano'o to counter A's Liger Bomb.During that moment A just noticed Sasuke had the MS,obviously looking at it.Perfect time to use Genjutsu.

C being distracted allowed Sasuke to pop up infront of him easily,look into his eyes,and cast Genjutsu.

Do you know what could easily allow Sasuke to cast Genjutsu on the Raikage? The Raikage looking into his eyes,which he did.


LOL are you actually acting as if Sasuke woulf have been hit by the Raikage and C? He clearly saw through C's Genjutsu,while Jugo freaked out over it,and Sasuke choose not to dodge,even despite knowing he just used Genjutsu,and they were coming to attack him.

Logically,what do you think Sasuke's counter would have been?

Susano'o

Sasuke said he didn't need them for a reason.

 
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Itachi =/= Sasuke
Itachi's 3T diversion genjutsu =/= Sasuke's MS paralysis genjutsu
Base Bee =/= V1 Ay

This whole post is completely irrelevant and doesn't really counter anything I said. Your argument would have made a little sense if Itachi caught V1 Ay in a genjutsu, which he did not. I really can't believe you're resorting to comparing different individuals that have shown different genjutsu feats against different people, and those two people being base Bee and V1 Ay on top of it. Lol

Anyway, just concede, because it's starting to get funny. If it'll make it better,the fact stands that EMS Sasuke can mindrape V2 Ay with no difficulty.



Lol... don't jump the gun.

Rinnegan Genjutsu negs any of the individuals listed. Any of them can be easily caught in a regular visual genjutsu if first restrained. If eye contact is maintained, EMS Sasuke can take out V2 Ay with genjutsu without even catching him with Susano'o, since he was able to track JJ Obito.
Rinnegan is a different story, but no not EMS
 

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All it takes is a glance,and the Raikage looked into his eyes long enough to comment about it,hence the time Sasuke could have used Genjutsu,yet didn"t.It's that simple,hence why there was plot shield.
You have no proof of sasuke looking at him directly in the eyes.
It's not like he never looked into Sasuke's eyes,and was constantly moving,and i said how come Sasuke didn't use Genjutsu.
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Instead we see Sasuke casting Genjutsu when he makes eye contact with multiple people,and getting them,yet not even using it on the Raikage at the perfect opportunity.
Other people were slower than raikage obviously, hence why he's the fastest shinobi. Even a shinobi like madara had to stop his movemnt first then cast the genjustu (madara has way more experince than sasuke when it comes to fighting) so what makes you think that sasuke can?.

KB was fast too.
Not as fast as raikage/lee/gai as they showed more impressive feat when it comes to speed. For example jumping in the air.
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Sasuke still got him in Genjutsu while he was moving at high speed toward him,yet while Sasuke,and the Raikage are both standing still making eye contact with one another Sasuke doesn't use Genjutsu.
Already stated that Raikage is the fastest shinobi and no one can match his speed except for the demi gods and minato
Okay.

Now back to an earlier point you made.Madara physically restrained A then casted Genjutsu.Well Sasuke didn't need to do that considering they were both standing still looking into each others eyes.
And still you have no proof that it was directly, He could be looking at his body or legs for all you know
Here.
 

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OMG! No way,you know it's undeniable that the Raikage was looking at Sasuke in the eye so now you're going to assume Sasuke wasn't looking at him in the eye?

Wow,well that's new.You are the first one to have said that,which could be a good or bad thing considering it should be obvious Sasuke would be planning on using Sharingan Genjutsu the moment they make eye contact,after all Sasuke just knocked someone else out with it a few minutes earlier.

Atleast you're being creative i guess.
 

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Because of Ay's fighting style and MS Sasuke can't track Ay's shunshin.

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In the scan you showed but misinterpreted, Madara literally had to physically restrain Ay with Susano'o in order to force him inside his genjutsu.
Did you miss the part Ay looked in his eyes ? That was more than enough time to genjutsu his ass
 

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maybe you haven't noticed this entire time, but it's been heavily suggested that it wasn't nearly easy as easy catching the 4th Raikage with Sharingan genjutsu like how it was for guys like Orochimaru.
 

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Raikage is not easy to genjutsu, that should be obvious by Madara having to grab him/restrain him to genjutsu him. Bee was charging directly at Sasuke, and was within a few inches of Sasuke. Sasuke was barely keeping track of raikage due to his speed.
 
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I think the thing people are missing that your pointing out is that a couple of times Ay was in either v1 or not moving and looked Sasuke in eyes. Catching Ay while he was moving at his fastest would of course be difficult
 

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Keep in mind that Bee beat sasuke before even using the hachibi's chakra. remember the swords. Uchihas are still dope tho.

[video=vimeo;126205646]https://vimeo.com/126205646[/video]
 

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maybe you haven't noticed this entire time, but it's been heavily suggested that it wasn't nearly easy as easy catching the 4th Raikage with Sharingan genjutsu like how it was for guys like Orochimaru.
Raikage is not easy to genjutsu, that should be obvious by Madara having to grab him/restrain him to genjutsu him. Bee was charging directly at Sasuke, and was within a few inches of Sasuke. Sasuke was barely keeping track of raikage due to his speed.

He looked at Sasuke's eyes.Boom Genjutsu.Non-Debatable

I think the thing people are missing that your pointing out is that a couple of times Ay was in either v1 or not moving and looked Sasuke in eyes. Catching Ay while he was moving at his fastest would of course be difficult

They both made eye contact. Sasuke easily could of ended him with Genjutsu right then and there. It's not really debatable.
Exactly.

Keep in mind that Bee beat sasuke before even using the hachibi's chakra. remember the swords. Uchihas are still dope tho.

[video=vimeo;126205646]https://vimeo.com/126205646[/video]
They had to capture Bee alive,so they held back.When the battle started,Sasuke didn't even have his Sharingan activated. On top of that he had lost the CM which he had incoporated into his fighting style,and used for years + just awakon the MS,and was using it for literally the first time.Also he hadn't recovered from his battle against Itachi.



If Bee didn't have the Hachibi to save him,and Sasuke wasn't holding back then logically,all he has to do is use Sharingan Genjutsu as soon as the battle begins,and Bee is done.
 
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