Tsunade is the best in the Medical field( > Kabuto)

[RedRobin]

No, characters can say what they think, it won't become the truth especially if they have no proper knowledge about what they are talking about.

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Naruto can that gaara's sand is the best defense but it would obvious;y be false because he hasn't seen jutsus like susanoo or mokuton.

Again completely different situations.

This isnt about hyping a character's abilities. Tsunade obviously can restore his arms because she was going to but knowing Orochimaru she couldnt trust he would not attack Konoha. Which is the ONLY reason she did not restore his arms.

 

[Melanin]

The only thing she has over Kabuto is the seal and the ability to remote heal.


The best medical feat is what he did to himself which was genetic engineering.

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Until Sakura does something as amazing as that she isn't the best in the medical field.

She's good at medical ninjustu and posions and that's about it.


Tsunade Orochimaru and Kabuto are the ones who dominate the medical field.
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Don't forget about her knowlage in Genetics & Post-Mortem Examination.

 

[To Whatever]

Orochimaru dominate the medical field (i'll wait for a scan where this is stated)? Do you read the manga or just come up with your own opinions? Tsunade herself takes a huge dump on those 2 as far medical ninja skills go. Tsunade casually replicated Kabuto's technique and used it with her own techniques to heal rock lee. Where did Kabuto do that? nowhere. He isn't near Tsunade. Stop trying to make something that isn't there.

Sakura = Surpassed Tsunade "Best medic in konoha" = her character's purpose


haters/deniers/bashers/ignorants/ have nothing to do with what is the fact. And the fact is Sakura has surpassed Tsunade. All the Sanin have been surpassed.

"Genetic engineering" .. nice. many scientists do that.. that won't make them the best doctors in the world.

Sakura = destroyed Sasori's poison in minutes. Kabuto has only created poisons.. ever countered one that has the hype of Sasori's poison?

What technique are you referring to?

And Orochimaru is more experienced in the medical field than Tsunade would ever be for the simple fact that he went to great lengths in order to do so. From kidnapping children to experiments that led to murder. He knows the human body better than Tsunade does if not the same. The same goes for Kabuto.

"Best medic in konoha" Not the world. Orochimaru and Kabuto are still very much alive.

Genetic engineering is pretty nice. But you're forgetting their doctors as well.

I already stated Toxicology and remote healing are the only thing she has over him.

You think Medical field=Medical ninjustu which isn't the case. The OP said Medical field which is broad and expanding.

Sakura and Tsunade have yet to do the things they've done.

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[KingHashirama]

Don't forget about her knowlage in Genetics & post-mortem examination.

she has no knowledge. only Kabuto and Orochimaru do. Shizune/Sakura/Tsunade can't genetic engineering, not like they have been working with medical ninjutsu majority of their life.

 

[ROHAN]

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'As soon as Orochimaru gets his arms healed...." Not " As soon as Orochimaru gets this excruciating pain taken away...'

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"Even if you dont fix them" Meaning she can...

Seriously how many times does the manga have to tell you she can do it?

This just shows that Orochimaru had a very complex plan in mind to restore his arms which he does implement in the War.

The first phase was to stop the breakdown of the body and stop the excruciating pain which Tsunadae can do with his Healing Powers.

The second Phase was to take over Uchiha Sasuke and use his Sharingan to get to the Uchiha Stone Tablet.

The Third Phase was to summon the RDS with the Uzumaki Mask and the Scroll he had (Which fell in the hands of Suigetsu).

Then Orochimaru would cut the RDS's belly, get His Hand's soul from the belly and fully restore his Soul/Arms.

I would say that Kishi changed the meaning behind those panels because Part 2 solidified that the only way to release souls from the RDS is by cutting the RDS's belly.

There is no way Tsunadae can fully restore Orochimaru's arms without access to the RDS, cut it's belly and get the soul.

Without the Soul of the Hands, Tsunadae cannot restore the hands in the first place.

 

[KingHashirama]

What technique are you referring to?

And Orochimaru is more experienced in the medical field than Tsunade would ever be for the simple fact that he went to great lengths in order to do so. From kidnapping children to experiments that led to murder. He knows the human body better than Tsunade does if not the same. The same goes for Kabuto.

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@Bold. Ok cool.


I admit defeat. Orochimaru and Kabuto are the best in medical ninjutsu. Because they have been only medical ninjutsu their entire life. They have been countering hyped up poisons on normal basis. They made a whole system around medical ninjutsu. They are the most respected. The best medical ninjutsu technique in the manga belongs to them. Genetic engineering is the epitome of medical ninjutsu in naruto, even if the person can do a technique to regenerate themselves and even non-medics have done genetic engineering.​

 

[RedRobin]

This just shows that Orochimaru had a very complex plan in mind to restore his arms which he does implement in the War.

The first phase was to stop the breakdown of the body and stop the excruciating pain which Tsunadae can do with his Healing Powers.

The second Phase was to take over Uchiha Sasuke and use his Sharingan to get to the Uchiha Stone Tablet.

The Third Phase was to summon the RDS with the Uzumaki Mask and the Scroll he had (Which fell in the hands of Suigetsu).

Then Orochimaru would cut the RDS's belly, get His Hand's soul from the belly and fully restore his Soul/Arms.

I would say that Kishi changed the meaning behind those panels because Part 2 solidified that the only way to release souls from the RDS is by cutting the RDS's belly.

There is no way Tsunadae can fully restore Orochimaru's arms without access to the RDS, cut it's belly and get the soul.

Without the Soul of the Hands, Tsunadae cannot restore the hands in the first place.

Chiyo brought someone back to life with life force. I imagine Tsunde would do something similar. We dont know how she would do it but its very very clear she could. Orochimaru states right in that scan 'Even if you dont heal his arms, he has another way' Cue the mask stuff.

 

[To Whatever]

@Bold. Ok cool.


I admit defeat. Orochimaru and Kabuto are the best in medical ninjutsu. Because they have been only medical ninjutsu their entire life. They have been countering hyped up poisons on normal basis. They made a whole system around medical ninjutsu. They are the most respected. The best medical ninjutsu technique in the manga belongs to them. Genetic engineering is the epitome of medical ninjutsu in naruto, even if the person can do a technique to regenerate themselves and even non-medics have done genetic engineering.

I said Medical field, not Ninjustu, can you not read?

 

[KingHashirama]

I said Medical field, not Ninjustu, can you not read?

Best in Medical field in NV = Best in Medical ninjutsu


You are right, they are above her. Orochimaru and Kabuto are the best medical ninjas.

 

[To Whatever]

Medical field in NV = Medical ninjutsu


You are right, they are above her. Orochimaru and Kabuto are the best medical ninjas.

What? No...

Is blood transfusions medical ninjustu? what about surgery?

 

[KingHashirama]

What? No...

Is blood transfusions medical ninjustu?

To be the best in medical field, you have to be the best in medical ninjutsu. Prove me wrong.

So they are the best medics, but not best in medical ninjutsu (oh wait they are utterly fodder in medical ninjutsu compared to Tsunade and sakura).

 

[RedRobin]

I said Medical field, not Ninjustu, can you not read?

But again you are wrong. Orochimaru went to great lengths to reach immortality through experiments on his body. That was using alot of general ninjustu not medical ninjustu, like separating his soul into curse marks and such. Tsunade is the top person in the medical field, healing the the wounded, the best doctor in NV.

 

[To Whatever]

To be the best in medical field, you have to be the best in medical ninjutsu. Prove me wrong.

To be the best in the medical field, you have to be the best in genetic engineering.

 

[KingHashirama]

Ahh only issue is we are talking about Manga here, and not what fans would want as the best.

Madara did genetic engineering. Is he better than Shizune? she hasn't implanted Hashirama's cells onto herself.

 

[Melanin]

she has no knowledge. only Kabuto and Orochimaru do. Shizune/Sakura/Tsunade can't genetic engineering, not like they have been working with medical ninjutsu majority of their life.

Huh? Sakura/Shizune categorically preformed as Molecular Biologist, their certainly accustom to DNA & Genitics.

•••The branch of biology that deals with the formation, structure, and function of macromolecules essential to life, such as nucleic acids and proteins, including their roles in cell replication and the transmission of genetic information••

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[KingHashirama]

Huh? Sakura/Shizune categorically preformed as Molecular Biologist, their certainly accustom to DNA & Genitics.

•••The branch of biology that deals with the formation, structure, and function of macromolecules essential to life, such as nucleic acids and proteins, including their roles in cell replication and the transmission of genetic information••

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I was being sarcastic due to the arguments above XD

 

[To Whatever]

But again you are wrong. Orochimaru went to great lengths to reach immortality through experiments on his body. That was using alot of general ninjustu not medical ninjustu, like separating his soul into curse marks and such. Tsunade is the top person in the medical field, healing the the wounded, the best doctor in NV.

He wanted immortality to learn every justu. Yes it required experiments on his body outside of the medical field and more of the spiriutal kind. But despite that, people aren't born with every KKG and affinity. His experiments with a kidnapped child, yamato. Suigetsu. Karin and the many Curse mark ridden prisoners he had across the fire country only proves he wasn't just looking for Immortality. It was simply a means for him to figure out any and everything.

Ahh only issue is we are talking about Manga here, and not what fans would want as the best.

Madara did genetic engineering. Is he better than Shizune? she hasn't implanted Hashirama's cells onto herself.

Shizune hasn't even the yin seal...

:bdpf:

 

[KingHashirama]

So those who do experiments on bodies automatically gain more medical knowledge. i see.

 

[To Whatever]

So those who do experiments on bodies automatically gain more medical knowledge. i see.

Didn't say automatically. You have to know what you're doing and Oro and Kabuto obviously do.


>Has firm knowledge in the Medical field and Medical ninjustu
>Experiments with genes of victims at any given time (and not corpses of enemies when available)
>Has No moral restrictions when conducting research and experimentation on humans


Once again Medical Field isn't = Medical Ninjustu

 

[ROHAN]

Chiyo brought someone back to life with life force. I imagine Tsunde would do something similar. We dont know how she would do it but its very very clear she could. Orochimaru states right in that scan 'Even if you dont heal his arms, he has another way' Cue the mask stuff.

That case is different. Garra's soul was in the pure/spirit world where it was free. So, it was summoned back by Chiyo's life force.

In Orochimaru's case, the soul of his hands was in a prison, the RDS's belly. The only way to get the soul was to destroy the Prison, i.e; cut the RDS's Belly. There is no way you can free the soul without the RDS, so complete restoration is not possible.

The same way Edo Tensei cannot summon the soul from the RDS's belly, so Hokage Edo Tensei's were not possible until the souls in question were freed from the RDS's belly.

The only way to completely restore Orochimaru's arms without the RDS is by making his soul out of nothing, which is Creation of all Things. Only Naruto and Sasuke can restore Orochimaru's arms in the manga's context as both got Hagoromo's chakra and by extension Creation Of All Things.

Or Orochimaru could get replacement arms by switching bodies and using the vessel's soul for his hands, which is what he does to use Ninjutsu.

The "another/other way" was the RDS Route. He was perhaps experimenting Tsunadae's method and looking backwards with Part 2 in consideration, Tsunadae's attempts to heal his arms would have been a failure.