[VS] MS Sasuke vs Killer Bee

[Raykyryn]

Bee wins.
Chakra arms can move in underground so Bee should be able to grab Sasukes feet even if his susanoo is being activated. Full powered Raikiri couldnt harm v2 bijues so i suppose susanoo arrows would fail too. Amaterasu simly gets removed by chakra cloak.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Enton is slower than Amaterasu ? Never heard about that, it looks still instant,

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Don't know about the cloak, Naruto removed it with Kurama chakra, don't know if Bee can do it.​

Amaterasu is faster than Kagatsuchi, it should ignite in the same amount of time it takes light to reach an object because eyes can only see objects in contact with light. So technically Amaterasu is near the speed of light :|

Kagatsuchi on the other hand, sends the flame from point A to point B at various speeds, the Enton he used on WZ was slower than the one he used on Kaguya's ice.

 

[KidGamer65]

Nice find, never noticed he had it post Danzo, but all the other ones links you post were EMS activated, bar Gaara, who used Enton and not the orb he used against White Zetsu since we all know he can manipulate Enton

I know, I was just showing that EMS Susanoo had the orb, and let him do those things, so he should be able to do something similar with his MS Susanoo has an orb.

 

[Amaterasu]

Nice find, never noticed he had it post Danzo, but all the other ones links you post were EMS activated, bar Gaara, who used Enton and not the orb he used against White Zetsu since we all know he can manipulate Enton

In the second link, he used at the end of the Danzo fight,

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Amaterasu is faster than Kagatsuchi, it should ignite in the same amount of time it takes light to reach an object because eyes can only see objects in contact with light. So technically Amaterasu is near the speed of light :|

Jesus... I never questioned Amaterasu's speed, so you learn me absolutely nothing... Amaterasu isn't speed of light, or prove it. Speed of sound is debatable​

Kagatsuchi on the other hand, sends the flame from point A to point B at various speeds, the Enton he used on WZ was slower than the one he used on Kaguya's ice.

Still fast enough to back my point.​

 

[ComplexCity]

Amaterasu is faster than Kagatsuchi, it should ignite in the same amount of time it takes light to reach an object because eyes can only see objects in contact with light. So technically Amaterasu is near the speed of light :|

Kagatsuchi on the other hand, sends the flame from point A to point B at various speeds, the Enton he used on WZ was slower than the one he used on Kaguya's ice.

Lmfao Amateratsu is not the SOL

 

[ComplexCity]

In the second link, he used at the end of the Danzo fight,

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I know I stated post Danzo Lol
I never noticed it though quite weird, thanks for pointing it out tho

 

[Unorthodox]

Killer bee wins both scenarios
Bijuu wave would still bust susanoo

Wtf is a bijuu wave i hope your not talking about the blast bijuudama? because bijuu dama is restricted.

Bee wins both scenarios low diff.

This is were i should have stopped.

Bee already essentially killed him 3 times in a row. Sasuke may not have been 100%, but it was also 4 vs 1 and bee wasn't serious half the time. Only issue is amaterasu, if bee can replicate Narutos chakra cloak removal, then Bee low diff.

Slap yourself since when does ms sasuke engage in CQC? it was 3vs1 karin is not even a combatant furthermore MS > the taka squad aswell so the first part of your post was irrelevant. Amaterasu is not the only issue we've already seen raikiri shred the chakra cloaks susanoo arrow definitely pierces right through killing killerbee.

Bruh
He was on the verge of death after that
It's scale and DC puts it at a level where susnaoo gets blown to peices
V4 susanoo would help sasuke survive it but his MS form has shown little to no use of it

Its restricted so its pointless to still bring argument concerning a restricted jutsu to the table.

Then tere is also te fact that nothing short of Kirin is even hurtin V2 bee
And that isn't getting prepped either, atleast not before sasuke gets finished

Susanoo arrows own those chakra cloaks raikiri which is not much stronger than chidori (Which it probably is not) had no problem shredding them or piercing them susanoo arrow moves much faster and is much stronger than a raikiri killerbee gets pierced.

I swear to god the bold is all i here everytime kirin is a factor what a joke amaterasu easily heats the sky Kirin GG.

I don't see how Sasuke even wins S1. Amaterasu can be removed with cloak and that's all he has going for him. Worst case Bee can still outlast him.

Susanoo arrow and susanoo swords says hi.

But Bee is faster in V2 so how can he not avoid. V2 Bee should be on V1 Ays level of speed at the very least and that's enough to avoid Arrows. Yeah, I factored Susanoo in to, that's why I said Bee can outlast him if it comes to it.

Not even close Susanoo arrow speed is not to far from amaterasu which v2 could not dodge casually he needed a shunshin v2 killerbee which has not shown great speed is not dodging those arrow or surviving being impaled or diced by a susanoo blade.

Bee wins.
Chakra arms can move in underground so Bee should be able to grab Sasukes feet even if his susanoo is being activated. Full powered Raikiri couldnt harm v2 bijues so i suppose susanoo arrows would fail too. Amaterasu simly gets removed by chakra cloak.

That leaves bee stationary not only would amaterasu roast him (Not having no hands to remove it) Susanoo arrows rain down on his skull ration blade should be able to cut those chakra cloaks or arms aswell. I hope your not implying raikiri is stronger than a susanoo arrow? Ribcage susanoo can tank a raikiri a v3 susanoo arrow is made out of v3 susanoo material making it stronger then a raikiri by default and at the speed its moves just adding to the piercing force that cloak is pierced.

 

[Raykyryn]

That leaves bee stationary not only would amaterasu roast him (Not having no hands to remove it) Susanoo arrows rain down on his skull ration blade should be able to cut those chakra cloaks or arms aswell. I hope your not implying raikiri is stronger than a susanoo arrow? Ribcage susanoo can tank a raikiri a v3 susanoo arrow is made out of v3 susanoo material making it stronger then a raikiri by default and at the speed its moves just adding to the piercing force that cloak is pierced.

Susanoo arrows stopped by rock

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Raikiri runs through rocks

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Feel the difference.

Having Bee left in a stationary situation (while trying to attack Sasuke from underground with chakra arms) is no problem when Sasuke can't harm him at all.

 

[Amaterasu]

Susanoo arrows stopped by rock

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Raikiri runs through rocks

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Feel the difference.

Having Bee left in a stationary situation (while trying to attack Sasuke from underground with chakra arms) is no problem when Sasuke can't harm him at all.

Lmao, hope you're joking Lol
First, Sasuke didn't want the Arrow to go through the rock, but to hit Kabuto, which would have probablystalemate him if the sword hit him
Second, this was a Raikiri enhanced Kunai, Kakashi made it to go through this rock, so yh...

Your logic is really flawed, it does not prove that Bee won't be stalemated by this arrow, don't compare people with rocks, lmaooo​

 

[KidGamer65]

@Raykyryn: I suggest you read that again.

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Pierced clean through that rock pillar and hit the ground. Then there's the fact that Raikiri Kunai>>Normal Raikiri due to the fact that the Raikiri itself is focused on the Kunai, which has a smaller point than Kakashi's hand, thus causing it to pierce deeper than Raikiri would. Same principle Nukite uses. The tip gets more pointed but more or equal energy is pumped in, creating a more focused attack.

 

[Raykyryn]

Lmao, hope you're joking Lol
First, Sasuke didn't want the Arrow to go through the rock, but to hit Kabuto, which would have probablystalemate him if the sword hit him
Second, this was a Raikiri enhanced Kunai, Kakashi made it to go through this rock, so yh...

Your logic is really flawed, it does not prove that Bee won't be stalemated by this arrow, don't compare people with rocks, lmaooo​

Sasukes arrow was stopped by kannabi bridge also, which is built up from rocks also..your point? Let alone it was negged by chakra rods and deflected by wood element. Has it any mentionable feat at all?

Meanwhile Kakashi raikiris able to cut through metal without being deflected..

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metal>rock
...Your point?

 

[Raykyryn]

@Raykyryn: I suggest you read that again.

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Pierced clean through that rock pillar and hit the ground. Then there's the fact that Raikiri Kunai>>Normal Raikiri due to the fact that the Raikiri itself is focused on the Kunai, which has a smaller point than Kakashi's hand, thus causing it to pierce deeper than Raikiri would. Same principle Nukite uses. The tip gets more pointed but more or equal energy is pumped in, creating a more focused attack.

Kakashi went through rocks without gettin drastically slowed down unlike that arrow.

You have a point in that Raikiri enhanced kunai argument but his raikiri showed a greater feat when cut Obitos shuriken so i can't see why it couldnt go through that rocks also.

Opsz, accidently double post

 

[KidGamer65]

Kakashi went through rocks without gettin drastically slowed down unlike that arrow.

You have a point in that Raikiri enhanced kunai argument but his raikiri showed a greater feat when cut Obitos shuriken so i can't see why it couldnt go through that rocks also.

Opsz, accidently double post

The arrow stopped because it hit the ground. Raikiri cutting Obito's Shuriken isn't a better feat than Susanoo Arrow slamming right through Danzo's Mokuton. It may be metal, but it's thin. Sasuke's Chidori Katana cuts through metal Kunai, yet Susanoo Arrow is far stronger.

 

[Raykyryn]

The arrow stopped because it hit the ground. Raikiri cutting Obito's Shuriken isn't a better feat than Susanoo Arrow slamming right through Danzo's Mokuton. It may be metal, but it's thin. Sasuke's Chidori Katana cuts through metal Kunai, yet Susanoo Arrow is far stronger.

That shuriken wasnt a stationary object like Danzos mokuton it was face to face go with the Raikiri so it developed much more power. So much power that it could cut through Hachibi's tail without slowing down, BM Naruto needed to use Kurama avatar to block it. Are you implying Yamatos kunai that Sasuke cut would be also capable of doing this feat? Lol

 

[KidGamer65]

That shuriken wasnt a stationary object like Danzos mokuton it was face to face go with the Raikiri so it developed much more power. So much power that it could cut through Hachibi's tail without slowing down, BM Naruto needed to use Kurama avatar to block it. Are you implying Yamatos kunai that Sasuke cut would be also capable of doing this feat? Lol

It being stationary doesn't change the fact that it's far more durable than a Fuhma Shuriken.

Wrong again. A Shuriken launched by Kamui has enough force behind it to cut the Hachibi's tails. A Shuriken being thrust by Obito doesn't have that force behind it, nor does Raikiri have any feat that'd put it on another level compared to a Susanoo arrow.

 

[Raykyryn]

It being stationary doesn't change the fact that it's far more durable than a Fuhma Shuriken.

Wrong again. A Shuriken launched by Kamui has enough force behind it to cut the Hachibi's tails. A Shuriken being thrust by Obito doesn't have that force behind it, nor does Raikiri have any feat that'd put it on another level compared to a Susanoo arrow.

What is your argument about Danzos mokuton being more durable than Obitos shuriken based on tho?

Kannabi bridge ground is made from rocks but kunai raikiri could pierce through much-much more amount of rocks before stopped than that arrows. And i doubt there would be a gap in power between raikiri and raikiri enhanced kunai.

I never said Raikiri is is on another level, my point was if a full powered raikiri had no effect on v2 bijues than susanoo arrow wouldnt have neither.

 

[KidGamer65]

What is your argument about Danzos mokuton being more durable than Obitos shuriken based on tho?

Hmm, let's see.

-It's chakra enhanced wood.

-It's Mokuton.

-It dwarfs the Shuriken in size.

-Sasuke easily cut through metal. Cutting through a metal Shuriken isn't a big feat for something like Raikiri.

-Even Kimimaro was cutting through metal with his bones IIRC.

Kannabi bridge ground is made from rocks but kunai raikiri could pierce through much-much more amount of rocks before stopped than that arrows. And i doubt there would be a gap in power between raikiri and raikiri enhanced kunai.

1. That's not the Kannabi Bridge.

2. That's made of stone, not rock.

3. No proof that Raikiri would run right through it. It cut through small boulders floating in the air. Big difference.

4. There is a gap in power.

5. It pierced through the Mokuton and then hit the bridge at an angle, which reduces it's power.

I never said Raikiri is is on another level, my point was if a full powered raikiri had no effect on v2 bijues than susanoo arrow wouldnt have neither.

While V2 Jins might be able to take Susanoo arrow, (Not really seeing the evidence for it though) comparing it to Raikiri doesn't work, cause Raikiri has no feat that'd put it on par with a Susanoo Arrow.

 

[ComplexCity]

Hmm, let's see.

-It's chakra enhanced wood.

-It's Mokuton.

-It dwarfs the Shuriken in size.

-Sasuke easily cut through metal. Cutting through a metal Shuriken isn't a big feat for something like Raikiri.

-Even Kimimaro was cutting through metal with his bones IIRC.


1. That's not the Kannabi Bridge.

2. That's made of stone, not rock.

3. No proof that Raikiri would run right through it. It cut through small boulders floating in the air. Big difference.

4. There is a gap in power.

5. It pierced through the Mokuton and then hit the bridge at an angle, which reduces it's power.




While V2 Jins might be able to take Susanoo arrow, (Not really seeing the evidence for it though) comparing it to Raikiri doesn't work, cause Raikiri has no feat that'd put it on par with a Susanoo Arrow.

Not to intrude but didn't Raikiri fail to destroy a piece of stone against Pain when he dodged?

 

[KidGamer65]

Not to intrude but didn't Raikiri fail to destroy a piece of stone against Pain when he dodged?

You mean this?

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[ComplexCity]

You mean this?

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Yup so I think his point is kinda moot. I'll be leaving now