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Nah nothing will beat your comment stating Hiashi can take on Madara and Itachi and Hiashi are evenly matched
I was referring to the Madara who couldn't even beat Senju fodders. This one.

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So I don't find it outlandish, especially since that version of Madara has even less facts to back him up than Hiashi, and lacks feats in several categories. Not to mention he only has V2 Susano'O. If we're to believe what Itachi said, that Madara and Izuna are equals, than it only goes to show how weak pre-vote Madara w/o Kurama actually was, given how easily Izuna got owned. He never was Hashirama's equal, as even with Rennigan and Mokuton, he was still only ever on par with edo Hashirama. that should tell you how strong he was when Izuna was alive or when he was fighting Hashirama in the VOTE.

Also, I never said Itachi and Hiashi are even, I've always held the belief that Itachi is stronger.
 
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Shockwaves from Sakura's punch not being a threat to actual shinobi.
KKM can barely scratch Tayuya.
Naruto's COFRS can't obliterate edo Madara's body.
Hinata can fight on par with high jounin levels and above.
Madara being above Kaguya just because he's more intelligent.
Kunai can pierce 3rd Raikage.
Sakura's punch is top tier in DC.
Tsunade can tank jinton, TBB, Hirudora, Temari's fuuton because she survived Mabui's "speed of light".

When did I make this claim?
You didn't make that claim. TheSages456 did.
 

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-BSM Naruto's Standard Bijuu Dama can obliterate Madara's Perfect Susanoo.
-PS=Mokujin=Kurama Avatar=Full Kurama in size.
-PS didn't tank Bijuu Dama on it's own, Kurama helped it.
-Gudo Dama didn't negate Quad Juubidama. (even though BSM Naruto's Bijuu Dama damaged the same Gudo Dama)
 

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Normally when you quote someone, words normally go under the quote. So I dont see whats so funny like its something common.
Considering you'd know which statement referred to which quote if you had actually read it, yes, it's pretty funny. Lol. Read next time. Not to mention the "title" for an entry goes above the content. "EMS Sasuke solos Hashirama" is the "title", your quote is the "entry".

And wasnt my claim under conditions that his PS can fly?
So? Lol. His PS being able to fly doesn't make that statement any less ridiculous.
 

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Considering you'd know which statement referred to which quote if you had actually read it, yes, it's pretty funny. Lol. Read next time. Not to mention the "title" for an entry goes above the content. "EMS Sasuke solos Hashirama" is the "title", your quote is the "entry".
I only read the first quote then my quote. First quote because I assumed the whole quote was mine, which you properly wrote under the quote.

I skimmed to my point, with the mind that it was the same as the first quote (writing under), as everything else was irrelevant to me.

So? Lol. His PS being able to fly doesn't make that statement any less ridiculous.
How is it ridiculous? I find flying out of SS reaching perfectly reasonable, while he can attack with shockwave range.
Plus the fact that prepping Kirin would be easier, which I think reacts to Mokuton much differently then what people think.
 

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I only read the first quote then my quote. First quote because I assumed the whole quote was mine, which you properly wrote under the quote.

I skimmed to my point, with the mind that it was the same as the first quote (writing under), as everything else was irrelevant to me.
Then that's your fault. Lol. The sheer fact that "I think Sasuke solos this" and "RSM Kurama=Normal PS" have nothing to do with each other should have clued you in.


How is it ridiculous? I find flying out of SS reaching perfectly reasonable, while he can attack with shockwave range.
Plus the fact that prepping Kirin would be easier, which I think reacts to Mokuton much differently then what people think.
Let's see:

1. Stronger foe with a better Susanoo still couldn't beat Hashirama w/ just PS, yet we are arguing that someone with a weaker Susanoo will do the same.

2. It took the power of 12 Bijuu Dama Blades to wipe out SS's arms, yet we are claiming that Sasuke will be able to do it with his sword alone.

3. Assumes that Hashirama sits on his ass while Sasuke flies into the air. Assumes that Sasuke can even get out of Hashirama's attacking range before he gets caught.

SS isn't even needed for him. Mokujin was stalemating a stronger Susanoo. It easily keeps Sasuke's PS on the ground, and if SS is used, then it swats Sasuke's Susanoo like a bug and turns it to paste along with him.

Lol, do I have to add the bold to this thread? Or at least the conclusion I know you are trying to draw here? Kirin is useless. Itachi blocked it with his Complete Susanoo. Hashirama tanks it with zero damage.
 

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Hmm...

I shouldn't have said it was her guess. I retract that part. However, it's really not that comparable.
Sakura's hypothesis was that he can make his body parts disappear at will. She concludes that Obito can remove whichever part was That is her scan. Although she is correct that Obito removes his body parts, that doesn't cover enough grounds to be a analysis comparable to Kakashi, letting alone surpass it.
Sakura didn't say the attacks slips through. She says in the scan you posted that he makes it appear like the attack slips through but in reality he removes the body part that is about to be attacked.
Let's move on to Kakashi. Albeit using Kamui, he concluded that:
- Obito's absorption and ability to slip through things .
- Obito's dimension is .
- He isn't transparent at all, that way of thinking a mistake. The whole . It turns out that Obito actually sends whatever body part he chooses to that Space-Time dimension. In other words, This is exactly why Obito still got hit by a Raikiri-enhanced Kunai and Rasengan, even when using Kamui.

In short, for Sakura's analysis to be even comparable, her conclusions have to be the exact or at least almost the same as why Kakashi concluded. So yes...what I said was definitely sig-worthy. :|

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Well Kakashi had more time to analyse and more evidence to back his claims for a more complete analysis due to more exposure to kamui. In other words, he had more tools to make a complete analysis. Sakura never said that he slips through attacks so it wasn't a misconception, she said he makes it appear he slips through and that is true to this day.
 
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