[Predictions] Rank them from the strongest CoA to the weakest

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@bold I agree. I really don't understand why they get so defensive when someone has an opinion of Smoker > Zoro.

Just because it's an opinion doesn't mean that you can spout whatever the nonsense you want. Opinions are supposed to be close to being true. Where as the point of Smoker being stronger than Zoro is noting more than pure BS at this point. I can just post Luffy > Admirals and say it's my opinion but it'll only make me look stupid. It'll the same for Smokers case.



Yeah because it never happened you never know what would have happened? not to mention we have no idea what would have happened if Smoker's Haki clashed with Pica's since it never happened so we don't know if Smoker would have been able to do a similar feat. Sanji used a named attack that had flames around it...I'm pretty sure that attack Sanji used was stronger than a normal haki hit that Luffy could throw out. Because we have an indication of what Vergo was like hitting him was like hitting a steel wall as stated by Sanji we have no idea how strong Pica's haki was.

He couldn't even do jack to haki less body of Vergo and youa re expecting him to do soemthing against his haki? Lol Sanji didn't use named attack and it doesn't matter if it has flames ,it can't change the fact that he wasn't using haki and still managed to pull same level of damage.

Pica's haki has the hype of being able to witstand mountain level slashes. When Joker said that Vergo can block Law's attacks he has no idea about what Law can do where as when Pica said that he could block Zoro's attacks even after witnessing what Zoro can do. That hype is more than enough to say that he has good mastery over haki.
 
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Yes. That is the way to go. Use hype that was immediately debunked as a character being overconfident. A+/10 debating skills right dere.

A man that can only lift 10Kg can never claim that he can lift 100Kg no matter how overconfidant he is. It's true that he was overconfidant but we can't totally ignore his claim just because he was overconfidant. I would have totally ignored him if he made that claim before witnessing what Zoro can do but he was more confidant about his haki than his mountain level Golem. That says something about his haki.
 

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A man that can only lift 10Kg can never claim that he can lift 100Kg no matter how overconfidant he is. It's true that he was overconfidant but we can't totally ignore his claim just because he was overconfidant. I would have totally ignored him if he made that claim before witnessing what Zoro can do but he was more confidant about his haki than his mountain level Golem. That says something about his haki.
lol yes we can. His claim means nothing because the events that happened next proved him wrong.
Enel said he was gonna kill Luffy
Hody said he was gonna decapitate Luffy
The Boa Sisters said they'd execute Luffy
Arlong said he'd kill Luffy
Ace said he'd kill Teach

Yet, as we saw, none of these people were capable doing what they said they were capable of doing. Just because you said ¨I can do this¨ doesn't mean you can, and Pica's Haki can't tank a mountain level attack, as shown when a mountain level attack cleaved right through it
 

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To be fair, Pica could have made that claim out of desperation. The thing that makes it valid in my eyes though is the hype Oda created around it, with Zoro actually agreeing, needing to use haki on his own and the fb afterwards
 

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To be fair, Pica could have made that claim out of desperation. The thing that makes it valid in my eyes though is the hype Oda created around it, with Zoro actually agreeing, needing to use haki on his own and the fb afterwards
Zoro has been sarcastic to his opponents time and time again. I doubt he was genuinely agreeing, especially since he had that sarcastic smile on his face.
 

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lol yes we can. His claim means nothing because the events that happened next proved him wrong.
Enel said he was gonna kill Luffy
Hody said he was gonna decapitate Luffy
The Boa Sisters said they'd execute Luffy
Arlong said he'd kill Luffy
Ace said he'd kill Teach

Yet, as we saw, none of these people were capable doing what they said they were capable of doing. Just because you said ¨I can do this¨ doesn't mean you can, and Pica's Haki can't tank a mountain level attack, as shown when a mountain level attack cleaved right through it

All of them made those claims without knowing what Luffy is capable of so at best they were all baseless claims where as Pica made that claim after witnessing Zoro's strength. Besides,most of them pushed Luffy to his limits which supports my point. If a man with over confidance claims that he can lift 100 Kg then he can at least lift 60-70 KG. It's the same for Pica's case.
 

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All of them made those claims without knowing what Luffy is capable of so at best they were all baseless claims where as Pica made that claim after witnessing Zoro's strength. Besides,most of them pushed Luffy to his limits which supports my point. If a man with over confidance claims that he can lift 100 Kg then he can at least lift 60-70 KG. It's the same for Pica's case.
All of those claims were made after the battle started and they had already traded blows with Luffy Lol

Oh word? I now claim I can lift 750 pounds with one arm. Therefore, I can lift at least 500 pounds with one arm.
 

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All of them made those claims without knowing what Luffy is capable of so at best they were all baseless claims where as Pica made that claim after witnessing Zoro's strength. Besides,most of them pushed Luffy to his limits which supports my point. If a man with over confidance claims that he can lift 100 Kg then he can at least lift 60-70 KG. It's the same for Pica's case.
How can u take Pica serious ? He also claimed he would 'take care' of all the pirates and the marines (this includes Fujitora)
He has to witness an admirals power to know he is outclassed? The whole world knows the power of the admirals but Pika would deal with him Lol ..Pika obviously lost all his credibility the moment he started saying random sh!t like that.
Pika obviously had probelems with categorizing the class of power his enemies were in . This includes Zoro to
 

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All of those claims were made after the battle started and they had already traded blows with Luffy Lol

Oh word? I now claim I can lift 750 pounds with one arm. Therefore, I can lift at least 500 pounds with one arm.


I don't remember Luffy using his capabilities to their fullest untill the very end. Even if they made those claims after witnessing Luffy's real strength it doesn't really prove my point wrong as most of them managed to push him to his limts. So, their clims are true to some extent. They claimed that they can do 100 and ended up doing 60 or 70.
If you know your own limits and being genuine about it then yes, you can.
 

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How can u take Pica serious ? He also claimed he would 'take care' of all the pirates and the marines (this includes Fujitora)
He has to witness an admirals power to know he is outclassed? The whole world knows the power of the admirals but Pika would deal with him Lol ..Pika obviously lost all his credibility the moment he started saying random sh!t like that.
Pika obviously had probelems with categorizing the class of power his enemies were in . This includes Zoro to

He dosen't know what admirals can do hence his claim holds no value which is why I totally ignored that claim from Pica. If you think about it even WB commanders failed to estimate real strength of admirals which is why they utterly failed against Akainu. Pica is no better than WB commanders.
 

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I don't remember Luffy using his capabilities to their fullest untill the very end. Even if they made those claims after witnessing Luffy's real strength it doesn't really prove my point wrong as most of them managed to push him to his limts. So, their clims are true to some extent. They claimed that they can do 100 and ended up doing 60 or 70.
If you know your own limits and being genuine about it then yes, you can.
LOL the only way their claims could have been true to any extent was if they succeeded. But keep grasping to this failed logic all you want m8.

I now claim I should be able to run faster than the speed of light. I can run at least the speed of sound then.
 

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LOL the only way their claims could have been true to any extent was if they succeeded. But keep grasping to this failed logic all you want m8.

I now claim I should be able to run faster than the speed of light. I can run at least the speed of sound then.
but this is not a stupid claim you can come with and expect no circumstances
this is a decision in battle which affects your life and death
take it this way , abattle between two the snipers first sniper just saw the other take down a target from 600 m distance he wont just get in range and say you wont be able to shoot me cause he just saw what the other is capable of unless he is retarded .
 

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but this is not a stupid claim you can come with and expect no circumstances
this is a decision in battle which affects your life and death
take it this way , abattle between two the snipers first sniper just saw the other take down a target from 600 m distance he wont just get in range and say you wont be able to shoot me cause he just saw what the other is capable of unless he is retarded .
Or overconfident/desperate, as Pica was. Pica simply overestimated himself.
 

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Just because it's an opinion doesn't mean that you can spout whatever the nonsense you want. Opinions are supposed to be close to being true. Where as the point of Smoker being stronger than Zoro is noting more than pure BS at this point. I can just post Luffy > Admirals and say it's my opinion but it'll only make me look stupid. It'll the same for Smokers case.
Um, No. It's not my fault you guys get so defensive over the topic. You guys ignore every other post/rankings and whenever someone ranks Smoker higher or equal to Zoro, you guys have a mental breakdown. Do you see me or TheHokage complaining about someone placing Zoro higher than Smoker in this thread? No. We honestly don't care lol.
 
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Um, No. It's not my fault you guys get so defensive over the topic. You guys ignore every other post/rankings and whenever someone ranks Smoker higher or equal to Zoro, you guys have a mental breakdown. Do you see me or TheHokage complaining about someone placing Zoro higher than Smoker in this thread? No. We honestly don't care lol.
That's because having Zoro in your top three is kind of like being really into sports. You have the few who understand you're not as into it as them, then you have those who won't shut the **** up about it or how it's so great.
 

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1. Doffy(till Liffy sh!ts on him)/Sabo (being luffy's brother and all plus he is harold to Dragon and Dragon's fitghing style
3. Young Don Chinjao - well credit for being a legend though small from the era of the greats.
4. Luffy - for now but if anything after Doffy gets done in probably only Sabo(in this list) will b above him for several arcs to follow
5. Zoro
6. Vergo
7. Pica - below Vergo coz I wld say the r equal overall so seeing as Pica got a really usefull df not some crapy df like Kinemon's, I wld say Vergo's haki attributes more to have them equalish
8. Smoker - well i like to think of myself as a how it stands for real currently kinda guy and not some wishfull thinker type, so for now he's here but u know let time do its thing and all that. Ohh n Bellamy is here too u know him n Smokey make up the 'those shown to have haki but.........(insert blemish/excuse here)..... league'

Coloseum DJC wld b just above Smoker.
 
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