Analysing Temari's Ninjutsu Growth

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@Bold, really? What basis is this statement coming from?
On account for her lack of panel time, what she has shown is much better than the majority of the females. She didn't buckle down and surrender her entire character to a male character (Hinata, Sakura etc.). She has shown she has a pulse and does what's needed and doesn't hesitate like Sakura did when she said she would "kill" Sasuke. And the dynamic between her and Shikamaru was more believable than any of the other pairings by far. She's much more similar to Konan than a Sakura or Hinata.
 

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Shout out to and in turn as I've borrowed the FRS points from those two. Make sure to award them with rep if you've liked this thread because this thread would be incomplete without
 

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On account for her lack of panel time, what she has shown is much better than the majority of the females. She didn't buckle down and surrender her entire character to a male character (Hinata, Sakura etc.). She has shown she has a pulse and does what's needed and doesn't hesitate like Sakura did when she said she would "kill" Sasuke. And the dynamic between her and Shikamaru was more believable than any of the other pairings by far. She's much more similar to Konan than a Sakura or Hinata.
She'll never kill Shikamaru though. She'll never kill Gaara though.

Konan didn't surrender to Nagato, despite him being the opposite of what her dead boyfriend wanted? come on now.

The surrendering stuff or giving themselves up to the males is only there if you choose to look at it that way.
 

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And just like most things, my point flew right over your head.
I perfectly understood your point. You don't believe shes like Hinata and Sakura. Only reason being is because she was never put in the situation like Hinata and Sakura.

Its like comparing Hiruzen's life to Hashirama's... impossible to compare.

Konan is pretty much Hinata and Sakura.. i don't see how or why people see her as not like them. I guess being a villain instead of a good guy makes the difference.
 

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V_V I highly doubt it. Considering kishi didn't even show Tobirama and Hashirama fighting as a duo. -sigh- I have given up on seeing duos fighting together.

But if they do show it, they better include that move in it! =D
Well Tobirama and Hashirama don't compliment each other and were only revived for a brief period of time. Shikamaru is getting a novel where he is the main character.
 

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I perfectly understood your point. You don't believe shes like Hinata and Sakura. Only reason being is because she was never put in the situation like Hinata and Sakura.

Its like comparing Hiruzen's life to Hashirama's... impossible to compare.
No, that's a horrible comparison. I don't care what situations they were put in. Nothing she was put in compromised the integrity of her character. Sakura is a walking contradiction and a horrible example for the female gender and Hinata much the same but in a much more timid sense. Temari's sense of individuality and functionality without having to echo out Shikamaru's name every other panel alone puts her on a much higher pedestal than either of the aforementioned characters.
 

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Well Tobirama and Hashirama don't compliment each other and were only revived for a brief period of time. Shikamaru is getting a novel where he is the main character.
According to Tobirama they did, since he was enjoying working with Naruto reminding him of the teaming up with his older broskie. :p

You are right on that! I wait for the mortal Kombat moment!

No, that's a horrible comparison. I don't care what situations they were put in. Nothing she was put in compromised the integrity of her character. Sakura is a walking contradiction and a horrible example for the female gender and Hinata much the same but in a much more timid sense. Temari's sense of individuality and functionality without having to echo out Shikamaru's name every other panel alone puts her on a much higher pedestal than either of the aforementioned characters.
What is "integrity of her chracter"?

Sakura is a walking contradiction, like most of humanity is a walking contradiction. Me and you contradict ourselves in our beliefs, in what we say, in what we do all the time. No human is consistent.

Put Sakura in Temari's position, she'll come out the same. If you don't care about the situation.. then why compare them like one is better than the other, when the other hasn't been through the same situation?

Yea Sakura was probably the weakest female shinobi in the start, and needed people's help , so what? You always have that person in military or in a group.

She grew up to be the most accomplished and strongest female shinobi of her time...Alot of women in life maybe independent, but when they are around the guy they love and etc.. they become really vulnerable. Alot of men are like that also.
 
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Im not convinced she has the 2nd strongest wind jutsu, Narut's Shukakus, and perhaps Orochimarus are stronger. Maybe Not Orochimaru's but definitely the other twos.
 

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According to Tobirama they did, since he was enjoying working with Naruto reminding him of the teaming up with his older broskie. :p

You are right on that! I wait for the mortal Kombat moment!
True. We should have seen Hashirama and Tobirama VS Madara and Izuna. Would have been a cool fight.

As for the topic about Temari's appeal as a character, I think most of us can all agree she's more interesting than Sakura and Hinata.

Im not convinced she has the 2nd strongest wind jutsu, Narut's Shukakus, and perhaps Orochimarus are stronger. Maybe Not Orochimaru's but definitely the other twos.
Danzo's fuuton that ripped V3 susanoo is stronger than her strongest jutsu, KKM. Oro's fuuton is fodder compared to Temari's.
 
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True. We should have seen Hashirama and Tobirama VS Madara and Izuna. Would have been a cool fight.

As for the topic about Temari's appeal as a character, I think most of us can all agree she's more interesting than Sakura and Hinata.


Danzo's fuuton that ripped V3 susanoo is stronger than her strongest jutsu, KKM. Oro's fuuton is fodder compared to Temari's.
Eh, I find all women in Naruto to be around the same. The most interesting one in my opinion, would be the mysterious Toka Senju (growing in that era with Hashi and Tobi, becoming the strongest female ninja, that is also widely feared around the world for her power) . Temari used to annoy me in part 1 :'( since she was with Gaara and always supporting him and etc. But overtime, i do like her though. I'm interested in knowing how it felt to be raised up with Gaara as the older sister.
 
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Eh, I find all women in Naruto to be around the same. The most interesting one in my opinion, would be the mysterious Toka Senju (growing in that era with Hashi and Tobi, becoming the strongest female ninja, that is also widely feared around the world for her power) . Temari used to annoy me in part 1 :'( since she was with Gaara and always supporting him and etc. But overtime, i do like her though. I'm interested in knowing how it felt to be raised up with Gaara as the older sister.
I always knew you loved the Senjus. It's cool though.
 
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Awesome analysis! I was however confused when you said that 3rd raikage's defense suroasses V3 susano comfortably but it's on par with V4 at he very least I translated this as saying Third Raikage is comfortably above hooded cloak susano and his defense is on par with perfect susano :leaf:! Since I usually count the susanos like this:
V1.incomplete susano (skeleton)
V2.Complete Susano (example would be the susano with bow and arrow for sasuke)
V3.Final Susano (example Itachi's susano with totsuka and Yata shield and hooded)
V4.Complete Body Susano (Perfect Susano) (for example, Sasuke's susano with the elongated tengu nose,and katana blades)

At least that's how I number them so I agree with Raikage being above complete body susano in terms of defense and roughly equal to Final Susano in terms of defense.
 

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Awesome analysis! I was however confused when you said that 3rd raikage's defense suroasses V3 susano comfortably but it's on par with V4 at he very least I translated this as saying Third Raikage is comfortably above hooded cloak susano and his defense is on par with perfect susano :leaf:! Since I usually count the susanos like this:
V1.incomplete susano (skeleton)
V2.Complete Susano (example would be the susano with bow and arrow for sasuke)
V3.Final Susano (example Itachi's susano with totsuka and Yata shield and hooded)
V4.Complete Body Susano (Perfect Susano) (for example, Sasuke's susano with the elongated tengu nose,and katana blades)

At least that's how I number them so I agree with Raikage being above complete body susano in terms of defense and roughly equal to Final Susano in terms of defense.
 

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Awesome analysis! I was however confused when you said that 3rd raikage's defense suroasses V3 susano comfortably but it's on par with V4 at he very least I translated this as saying Third Raikage is comfortably above hooded cloak susano and his defense is on par with perfect susano :leaf:! Since I usually count the susanos like this:
V1.incomplete susano (skeleton)
V2.Complete Susano (example would be the susano with bow and arrow for sasuke)
V3.Final Susano (example Itachi's susano with totsuka and Yata shield and hooded)
V4.Complete Body Susano (Perfect Susano) (for example, Sasuke's susano with the elongated tengu nose,and katana blades)

At least that's how I number them so I agree with Raikage being above complete body susano in terms of defense and roughly equal to Final Susano in terms of defense.








 
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