so naruto really was = to sasuke

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Nope on the bold. You did not address anything relevant.
That's because your post wasn't relevant to begin with, moron. That had nothing to do with my point, which you are annoyingly too stupid to see.

Do you want me to make a spoiler with each part of your wank/downplay of Naruto? Maybe you don't see how unjust you are.
And you keep saying this, and yet you have no evidence of the fact, so you can either prove to me how my words are downplaying Naruto in any way, or you can log off and and save yourself the last bit of worth you have left.
 

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No. We are talking about power here alone, no other moves. How does his PS stand up to it? No hypotheticals.
With PS alone it still shown the ability to evade/blitz. It may not have tank power like Madara PS but it's far faster. Power wise who knows considering we only saw PS slash and PS chidori. But realistically thinking he should be able to divert the course of the technique with enton arrow like how Hashirama did with Madara.
 

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That's because your post wasn't relevant to begin with, moron. That had nothing to do with my point, which you are annoyingly too stupid to see.
Your were trying to argue with a guy telling him that Naruto cannot increase his power because he stayed in a village when about 90% of the shinobi who are born into Villages, stay into them. Does not effect their power despite them leaving or staying. I honestly can't say I am surprised to the point of acknowledging your own faults here. Would not be the first time

And you keep saying this, and yet you have no evidence of the fact, so you can either prove to me how my words are downplaying Naruto in any way, or you can log off and and save yourself the last bit of worth you have left.
Is that a Yes or No? I don't have time for petty insults. Just tell me when you want the quotes, with detailed explanations and such.

With PS alone it still shown the ability to evade/blitz. It may not have tank power like Madara PS but it's far faster. Power wise who knows considering we only saw PS slash and PS chidori. But realistically thinking he should be able to divert the course of the technique with enton arrow like how Hashirama did with Madara.
You are not listening to me xTsuna! XD We are talking about a situation that involves power alone. No hypotheticals. In brute force power, no evading, no extra crap. Both of them sending their strongest attack (PS - Chidori I'm assuming?) and the Avatar's strongest attack at each other. What will happen?
 

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No he didnt cause he is stupid after 3 years, is that what are you tryna to say ?
Bro I don't even know why you quoted me first, I was saying that he didn't trained that much and he has a lot of potential, if he trains after ten years, especially during the 699-7000 timeskip. That's wrong ?
 

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Bro I don't even know why you quoted me first, I was saying that he didn't trained that much and he has a lot of potential, if he trains after ten years, especially during the 699-7000 timeskip. That's wrong ?
Now you are bending it other way around ?
You said he didnt train much from orochimaru. Yet he trained everything then kill him.
Then you said does that mean he had learned anything. If he didnt learn anything from orochimaru during 3 years then he must be stupid somehow.
 

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Now you are bending it other way around ?
You said he didnt train much from orochimaru. Yet he trained everything then kill him.
Then you said does that mean he had learned anything. If he didnt learn anything from orochimaru during 3 years then he must be stupid somehow.
I didn't say that, I said "does it mean that he learnt a lot", stop lying.
 

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lmao, dude you are so dumb it's almost pathetic. That's not downplaying him. That is stating exactly what it is. If Naruto is in a village leading in an office then what the hell does tat tell you? Will he have more time training and getting stronger while he is Hokage or while he is still a member of the Leaf? It's not that hard to use your head and stop acting so childish.

Obviously Naruto has gotten stronger than before he was Hokage but he has even less time to train due to the amount of workload he has to do.
Sigh. That's what you do not understand here. Naruto became the Hokage when he became a man, about the same time when Boruto became an academy student. You see this in the Last, where Kakashi's face is still the newest one carved in the Mountain, and Bolt (who is 4-6) and Himwari who is (2-4) are running to hug him while he is training outside.

It's clearly obvious that Naruto became Hokage in his prime, reaching the full of his potential at that point. Exactly why I state the same for Sasuke, who began a family with Sakura, and probably does not spend his time training all the time. He seems rather busy, and Kishimoto himself explained that Sasuke was looking for more information on Kaguya. He has a goal, and a drive right now. They both reached their prime, so you are basing facts on what? Assumptions.


There's no need. It's obvious that you're a sensitive little moron who has no idea what he's talking about.

Stop wasting my time, boy.
You have wasted my time for far too long. Yet, I have proven you wrong in each instance, and will continue on and therefore I state, I pity the fool.
 
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All these words and you had not proved a damn thing. I kind of feel ... sorry? Maybe, I cannot really express the way your post makes me wonder how you actually comprehend the manga. So I'll spell it out for a child to understand:

> Naruto the Last: Naruto already had two kids
> Naruto is training outside
> Naruto's kids come tackle him
> Kakashi's face is seen on the monument still

Obvious conclusion:
> Naruto is still training
> Naruto is a father
> Naruto is still not a Hokage yet

Age? He was Nineteen in the Last, and his oldest child is about maybe 6? So Naruto is probably in his mid/late twenties.

Sasuke?
> Has a child with Sakura who is the same age as Boruto
> Is a father
> Came back to the village after his Redemption Journey
> Is still possibly training as he had not reached prime

Conclusion: Same as Naruto's.

Naruto Chapter 700:
> Bolt is acting like a spoiled brat.
WHY?
Because once his father became Hokage, he changed, he had no time for him, etc.,

How old do you think Naruto was when he became Hokage? Boruto is probably going to graduate from the Academy right now. So Naruto is definitely in his early to mid thirities.


Sasuke:
> In his prime
> Came back to Konohagakure at some point
> Uchiha heritage pictures in Sakura's home. Obviously a statement to his bloodline
> Looking for information on Kaguya

Yeah. Your post just proves my point exactly, that you have nothing to base your assumptions from. In fact, it's sort of pathetic to read. I don't understand how you can write some blasphemy, hit send, and then criticize others when you are not better than the common troll. Ciao
 
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All these words and you had not proved a damn thing. I kind of feel ... sorry? Maybe, I cannot really express the way your post makes me wonder how you actually comprehend the manga. So I'll spell it out for a child to understand:

> Naruto the Last: Naruto already had two kids
> Naruto is training outside
> Naruto's kids come tackle him
> Kakashi's face is seen on the monument still

Obvious conclusion:
> Naruto is still training
> Naruto is a father
> Naruto is still not a Hokage yet

Age? He was Nineteen in the Last, and his oldest child is about maybe 6? So Naruto is probably in his mid/late twenties.

Sasuke?
> Has a child with Sakura who is the same age as Boruto
> Is a father
> Came back to the village after his Redemption Journey
> Is still possibly training as he had not reached prime

Conclusion: Same as Naruto's.

Naruto Chapter 700:
> Bolt is acting like a spoiled brat.
WHY?
Because once his father became Hokage, he changed, he had no time for him, etc.,

How old do you think Naruto was when he became Hokage? Boruto is probably going to graduate from the Academy right now. So Naruto is definitely in his early to mid thirities.


Sasuke:
> In his prime
> Came back to Konohagakure at some point
> Uchiha heritage pictures in Sakura's home. Obviously a statement to his bloodline
> Looking for information on Kaguya

Yeah. Your post just proves my point exactly, that you have nothing to base your assumptions from. In fact, it's sort of pathetic to read. I don't understand how you can write some blasphemy, hit send, and then criticism others when you are not better than the common troll. Ciao
Indra your making way too many solo posts :leaf:

I told you to leave that guy/girl alone. He can't do anything but insult you.
You should have seen his posts the other day U_U
 

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Lol, it seems I made a mistake. This will be my last post because I want everyone to witness and see how off topic this post is and how misunderstood he is looking like right now.

All these words and you had not proved a damn thing. I kind of feel ... sorry? Maybe, I cannot really express the way your post makes me wonder how you actually comprehend the manga. So I'll spell it out for a child to understand:

> Naruto the Last: Naruto already had two kids
> Naruto is training outside
> Naruto's kids come tackle him
> Kakashi's face is seen on the monument still

Obvious conclusion:
> Naruto is still training
> Naruto is a father
> Naruto is still not a Hokage yet

Age? He was Nineteen in the Last, and his oldest child is about maybe 6? So Naruto is probably in his mid/late twenties.

Sasuke?
> Has a child with Sakura who is the same age as Boruto
> Is a father
> Came back to the village after his Redemption Journey
> Is still possibly training as he had not reached prime

Conclusion: Same as Naruto's.

Naruto Chapter 700:
> Bolt is acting like a spoiled brat.
WHY?
Because once his father became Hokage, he changed, he had no time for him, etc.,

How old do you think Naruto was when he became Hokage? Boruto is probably going to graduate from the Academy right now. So Naruto is definitely in his early to mid thirities.


Sasuke:
> In his prime
> Came back to Konohagakure at some point
> Uchiha heritage pictures in Sakura's home. Obviously a statement to his bloodline
> Looking for information on Kaguya

Yeah. Your post just proves my point exactly, that you have nothing to base your assumptions from. In fact, it's sort of pathetic to read. I don't understand how you can write some blasphemy, hit send, and then criticism others when you are not better than the common troll. Ciao
It seems like this clown is still missing the point as he is doing a good job at spouting nothing when in fact this post has absolutely nothing to do with my earlier point.

My god, how stupid can someone be?

Prime? Maturity? Kids?
And you want to talk about reading comprehension? Yes, I would recommend that you stop acting like a smartass given the idiocy behind your posts.

Mind telling me what any of this garbage has to do with what I said or how I downplayed Naruto? Oh wait, I said that this will be my last post so never mind. Don't bother. You will probably give me some random shit again anyway.
 

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Interesting.

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>Complains about Sasuke not learning his Rinnegan moves
>Makes this stupid excuse that Naruto can learn a new justu everyday

The overwhelming fapping is too much in here. I need a drink.


Nice fanfic.


Funny how you like to turn this around when you can't even prove your stance when I ask or mention something first. You want to whine now about if Naruto learned some new Bijuu moves, when in fact I never declined that option, but you want to reject if Sasuke has mastered any new techniques with his Rinnegan, knowing full well that he has no obligations to fulfill? Yeah, okay.

Naruto might have learned a few tricks, but his time spent for training should not be larger or more than Sasuke. Listen to my words very carefully, and actually take what I am saying, fanboy.


1. I never said that Naruto couldn't learn anything else. Don't put words into my damn mouth.
2. Unless Naruto is working on his wind nature or some new FTG technique from Minato, there is nothing new for him to learn. Sasuke has a foundation of new moves to explore from his Rinnegan.
3. When was it stated that Naruto has access to the other tailed beast when Bee was shown to be with Gyuki in the waterfall in chapter 700?

4. Sasuke is not like other Rinnegan users and the Rinnegan is not the only thing that he has access too and the fact that he showed two new Rinnegan features during their fight with Madara proves that he can also work with his S/T jutsu as well.


You care enough to argue with this shitty logic that you are spewing.


The fact that Sasuke is away from the village, not having to worry about missions, or protecting people and can have more time to train on his own, and develop new moves, and advance his base skills is all I need and enough proof to believe that Sasuke is stronger now. Your simple little notion of "Naruto is Hokage" is not good enough and that pathetic tactic of creating shadow clones to do his training is inferior to Sasuke's training because he is training his actual body.

So until you prove to me how Naruto is stronger, you can sit down, because right now, it seems like Sasuke has a lot stronger reason for being stronger and he has a lot more options to work with as opposed to Naruto.


It's practically common knowledge for someone who has no real objective to have more free time and more opportunities as opposed o someone who has a job and is stuck at the office.

If you truly believe that Naruto, a person who is leader of Konoha, and a husband of two kids has more free time than someone who is traveling the world and has all the time he wants then you seriously need to delete your account and stop wasting my time with this BS.


So now you Naruto fanboys want to sit here and try to tell me that an actual Hokage does not need to do paper work and can go train all day if he wants to?

Yeah okay, this is exactly why Naruto fans are annoying.

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Going to give my intake on this.

Sasuke will have a larger skill-set because of what the Rinnegan allows him to learn. However, the same goes for Naruto too. With RSM he gains the comprehension of all things, not to mention with the chakra of each Bijuu inside of him. I doubt we have seen the minimal amount of abilities he could learn with them. Mind you, that Sasuke's Rinnegan was new, but Naruto's mastery of the Bijuu was new too.


Why do people justify that a Full Mastery over the Rinnegan will turn things over? Naruto has been dealing with Rinnegan users since the Pain Arc, and Sasuke is the only true prime Rinnegan user who was given the eyes to mature over time. Despite knowing that, do you think Naruto is going to be weak against it? It's already proven that Naruto counters every single Rinnegan path. All the way to Shinra Tensei, to Amen.

Naruto the Last, despite it being poorly constructed, already shows us feats in how both Naruto and Sasuke grew over the past two years being Rikudou enhanced.

Only a few feats from the Last:
- Base mode Naruto can create a FRS with one hand, throw it, and control it's trajectory (anything Naruto can do in his base mode can be done in his other modes)

- Rasengan blast (that's the new Rasengan he used at the end of the movie. It shoots out like a blast of energy, similar to how the beast ball can be shot out in a wave form)

- Improvement in speed (base mode Naruto blitz an enemy while attacking him head first and he has learned how to fighting continuously at high speed)

- Naruto can fly without needing to be in RSM (he was in KSM when he was flying. I believe he uses natural energy to fly)

- Partial chakra mode (Naruto can now gather 9 tails chakra just around a specific body part IE: his arm)

- Chakra shield (the jutsu Naruto used to block Toneri's strongest attack at the end of their battle. Naruto focus chakra on his hand to create a shield)

- Unknown jutsu he used to remove the chakra ball from Hinata (it appears to be yin-yang based since he was able to remove the charka ball from Hinata without injuring her. It look like Naruto either create a portal or made his arm intangible to reach inside her body.)
So I really don't see why you both are arguing over who will learn what, or who will train more. Indefinitely both have grown equally throughout the years, just because one is out traveling the world does not justify his growth exponentially. Shinobi stay in the villages all the time, much like Gai-sensei, Kakashi, Minato, etc., but that does not automatically make them anyway inferior to a shinobi who are rogue and travels constantly. That logic is also viewed as half right.


Naruto just applying Bijuu chakra to Rasengans was a small indication to what he could learn. The raise of his chakra to a boiling point through the Five Tails already showed us that Naruto indeed can channel types of Bijuu chakra to his body to enhance his other physical/non-physical traits, or just to learn more versatile Ninjutsu. Such as; Ice Mirror techinque, Coral, Lava body release, Sealing sand or just control over the Sand itself, Sound release (7 tails), etc.

It was stated that Naruto will always have a piece of Bijuu chakra in his body, Hagoromo indicated that Naruto will be a harbinger of each Tailed Beasts. There is nothing in the manga that tells us Naruto will lose their chakra, in fact it's quite the opposite. We can only assume that Naruto will recharge their chakra overtime.

Very true, Sasuke showed feats of being the most powerful Rinnegan user aside from JJ Madara/Kaguya without training alone. Even with that knowledge, it doesn't does not push a gap over Naruto who seemingly already had Sasuke in the defensive with the powers he already had. Half of Kurama stalemate Sasuke with Bijuu chakra, meaning that Sasuke still has to train in order to surpass the gap that Kurama has over-him with the Ashura avatar. Now that Naruto received a Full Kurama, it is seemingly impossible for someone to cross the distance of power between Half and Full Kurama at once. Naruto's skill-set was made to combat Rinnegan users, so despite their skill and power, none of which will cause any extreme difficulty to an Adult Naruto.



I don't really understand how you could come to the conclusion that shinobi from villages are ultimately weaker than shinobi who travel/rogue. That does not make much sense. You are providing opinions from what you think is true based on logical conclusions, when in fact Naruto can equally train just as much as Sasuke over the years despite staying at home. I know for certain that Naruto trains constantly, no one waiting to become the Hokage sits down all day waiting for time to pass, and it was shown that Naruto probably became Hokage later during his years of being a father. Which mind us that Sasuke supposedly came back to the village at some point to wed and bed Sakura Haruno. I'm almost half sure that he is still not traveling the world, but possibly doing missions in the dark for Konoha, or reconnaissance.


How can you prove that Sasuke will be stronger? Every-time you list a point, it will be countered very easily. I'll wait for this response to show you how easy it will be.


Funny you say that because Sasuke also had a child the same time Naruto had Boruto. Not to mention, during the last scene in the Last, Naruto was outside training his Taijutsu. So that was also invalid. People who become fathers don't automatically get nerfed.


Hokage Naruto is at his limit, in his prime. Same with Sasuke at chapter 700.

They are adults at this point, in their prime masculinity. I expect nothing less from either of them

His response that ignored everything I stated (Though he was talking to some other kid too)
And another Naruto fanboy appears.


You were better off sitting in the corner and cheering from the sidelines.


I guess you missed Rinnegan Madara during the war and VoTE2 Sasuke.
10 years later, and you are still questioning his prowess with the Rinnegan?

You are also implying that just because Naruto faced Rinnegan users in the past that it will be the same for Sasuke. Sasuke has also faced Jinchuriki in the past. I wonder if I can use this same logic?


*Yawn*

All this fapping has nothing to do with the main point, and I seriously don't give a damn about the last.


*Yawn*

My response
You did not respond to me at all. I'm assuming you knew who was right at that point.

Look at these insults. Jesus, some real nice work there.

Another "Dannie" post
What's to respond to? Your post consisted of countless Naruto wanking and trying to downplay Sasuke, and I love it when someone claims that I am insulting them just because they have no words to bring forth.

If anything, you were better off being silent and not speaking at all.

And you should seriously take off that avatar. You don't even know the purpose behind that character.

My response further into the chat
Seems like you still don't understand the difference between logical discussions, and wank. Your post has nothing to do with logic, but what you believe on personal assumption. Completely disregard other characters, and then provide excuses for the other which in turn makes no logical sense. I doubt you have ever made a concession before because your judgement on how other characters grow is clouded by total, and utter wank.

Shall I gather all the quotes you have on your wank to show you in bold? Or do you want to continue acting like some innocent guy who did no wrong?

His best "rebuttal"
Logical discussions? Is that what you thought you were doing? I couldn't tell after the shit that you tried to pass off as facts. For someone who is claiming someone else of not paying attention you sure do a good job at that on your own. You're persistent in thinking that I am downplaying Naruto all because of one little statement.
>Naruto had two kids
>Naruto is Hokoge of a large village

I didn't know that claiming that Naruto doesn't have as much time to train as Sasuke would be downplaying but I guess that is too be expected of a little child that can't handle discussing about characters without the added wank fest. Maybe in the future, when you actually gain some knowledge, you will realize how stupid you were for arguing with me.

Oh look at that. The little co-ed cheerleader has come out of hiding and is trying to make perks. How adorable.

My response to his horrible trolling
Sigh. That's what you do not understand here. Naruto became the Hokage when he became a man, about the same time when Boruto became an academy student. You see this in the Last, where Kakashi's face is still the newest one carved in the Mountain, and Bolt (who is 4-6) and Himwari who is (2-4) are running to hug him while he is training outside.

It's clearly obvious that Naruto became Hokage in his prime, reaching the full of his potential at that point. Exactly why I state the same for Sasuke, who began a family with Sakura, and probably does not spend his time training all the time. He seems rather busy, and Kishimoto himself explained that Sasuke was looking for more information on Kaguya. He has a goal, and a drive right now. They both reached their prime, so you are basing facts on what? Assumptions.



You have wasted my time for far too long. Yet, I have proven you wrong in each instance, and will continue on and therefore I state, I pity the fool.

Dannie's rustled' post that made no logical sense on the debate
Yeah, okay. That's it. I'm done with this shit. It's obvious that you are not even listening to anything that I am saying right now, and you even insist on putting words into my mouth like I actually said the shit that you are trying to say that I said, so this will be my last reply to your ignorant ass, so I hope you grasp this very carefully, as it will be my last reply to you because I hate dealing with idiots over and over when they don't even get it the first time.

Those two paragraphs that you posted above have nothing to do with anything at all. It has nothing to do anything that I am saying. "Naruto became a man when he became Hokage. Naruto was at his prime when he became Hokage. Naruto had two kids and is hanging out with them". Yeah, that's great buddy, and somehow this means that he has more time to train just after he received the position of Hokage? Okay pal.

You want to point fingers and say that I am downplaying Naruto's adulthood, when in fact that never even came out of my mouth, and yet I am not even rejecting or disagreeing with this and yet you insist on telling me this like I already didn't know this?

You seem to be lost, confused, incompetent, ignorant and completely asinine for believing that a Hokage will not be busy with other things, which will hinder them from training. You also seem to be lacking in attentive skills as I have explicitly stated MANY times in this stupid thread that Naruto is a Hokage so he will have less time to train as opposed to Sasuke. So what? Is that called downplaying? And you, trying to write all this irrelevant shit like it actually proves your point is laughable. You think just because Sasuke had a kid that he is in the same boat as Naruto? Try again, pal. The difference is that Sasuke is not a Hokage and he does not have obligations to fulfill so he can train anytime he wants. He's searching for Kaguya, but how exactly does that stop him from getting stronger and training anytime he wants?

You know what your damn problem is? You insist on believing that I am downplaying Naruto and you are getting this idiotic idea in your head that indicates that Naruto has a lot of time to do what he wants when in fact he doesn't. A Hokage is not obligated to do what he wants. He has a job and he must fulfill that job to keep the village going.

It's funny how you assume that I am downplaying Naruto when in fact there was no downplaying to begin with, so congratulations. You stuck your nose into something that you didn't even fully understand and still acting like you did anything noteworthy. How amusing.

Mind you, I already know that Naruto has gotten stronger, so you don't need to be a desperate little boy and try to tell me that.


You've done nothing but waste your own time. You chose the wrong person to quote, and you can't even back up your idiotic claims and can only sit their and add words into my mouth without looking like a fool.

The post that made him shut up.
All these words and you had not proved a damn thing. I kind of feel ... sorry? Maybe, I cannot really express the way your post makes me wonder how you actually comprehend the manga. So I'll spell it out for a child to understand:

> Naruto the Last: Naruto already had two kids
> Naruto is training outside
> Naruto's kids come tackle him
> Kakashi's face is seen on the monument still

Obvious conclusion:
> Naruto is still training
> Naruto is a father
> Naruto is still not a Hokage yet

Age? He was Nineteen in the Last, and his oldest child is about maybe 6? So Naruto is probably in his mid/late twenties.

Sasuke?
> Has a child with Sakura who is the same age as Boruto
> Is a father
> Came back to the village after his Redemption Journey
> Is still possibly training as he had not reached prime

Conclusion: Same as Naruto's.

Naruto Chapter 700:
> Bolt is acting like a spoiled brat.
WHY?
Because once his father became Hokage, he changed, he had no time for him, etc.,

How old do you think Naruto was when he became Hokage? Boruto is probably going to graduate from the Academy right now. So Naruto is definitely in his early to mid thirities.


Sasuke:
> In his prime
> Came back to Konohagakure at some point
> Uchiha heritage pictures in Sakura's home. Obviously a statement to his bloodline
> Looking for information on Kaguya

Yeah. Your post just proves my point exactly, that you have nothing to base your assumptions from. In fact, it's sort of pathetic to read. I don't understand how you can write some blasphemy, hit send, and then criticize others when you are not better than the common troll. Ciao


Yeah, good game.
 
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Interesting.

Dannie's post

My response

His response that ignored everything I stated (Though he was talking to some other kid too)

My response

Another "Dannie" post

My response further into the chat

His best "rebuttal"

My response to his horrible trolling

Dannie's rustled' post that made no logical sense on the debate

The post that made him shut up.


Yeah, good game.
And this clown still can't prove how I downplayed Naruto.
 
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