Only juubi jins can react to ftg.

[Lightbringer]

Op says hi.
Read the thread, not just the title idiot.

Wall of text? No thanks. In my experience, if it takes that long to justify something, then the person who wrote it is usually wrong.

Yes we all realize that it's not FTG that they are reacting to but what comes after is not instant, therefore it can be reacted to. Just like how Madara did with Tobirama.

Minato is not soloing any high tier characters with FTG....deal with it.

 

[Haizaki]

B already reacted to Minato. So like others said, it's the person using it.

 

[Uzumaki Bolt]

Actually, even Sakura ? can 'react' to it. It's doing so fast enough to actually make a difference that is impossible. Everyone here already agrees in there hearts that ftg is too fast. The new question is whether or not a certain character is fast enough to react to the fast attacks that often follow.

 

[Scryed]

FTG is instant. Juubi Jins can't react to an instant attack. FTG itself isn't an attack though.

I agree though I don't consider Juubi Jin movements to be instant. In other words, Minato was the one who wasn't able to react to Obito fast enough to use FTG without losing an arm and losing the other arm to Madara.

 

[Uzumaki Bolt]

He lost the arm because it wasn't established, or probably even known to anyone (including madara) that edo tensei won't regenerate after contacting the TSBs. I include Madara because he never had the opportunity to know this.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Wall of text? No thanks. In my experience, if it takes that long to justify something, then the person who wrote it is usually wrong.

Yes we all realize that it's not FTG that they are reacting to but what comes after is not instant, therefore it can be reacted to. Just like how Madara did with Tobirama.

Minato is not soloing any high tier characters with FTG....deal with it.

Ftg v2 is instant.

He already has, obito=high tier.

 

[Lightbringer]

Ftg v2 is instant.

He already has, obito=high tier.

lol a 14 year old Obito

That's almost as bad as Itachibase giving credit to Itachi beating on a 12 year old Sasuke.

 

[NarutoKage2]

lol a 14 year old Obito

That's almost as bad as Itachibase giving credit to Itachi beating on a 12 year old Sasuke.

Are u stupid?
Since when does age mean sh!t in naruto?
-an 11 year old beat a 40 year old sannin
-8-9 year old hashirama/Madara beat adults from the uchiha and senju clans
-a 16 year old gaara became kazekage
- at age 12, gaara was the 'ultimate weapon' used in oros crush the leaf

Etc. notjust that, very same obito solod dozens of hidden mist anbu, could perfectly use the mouton, knew rikudo and uchiha kinjutsu, had a kammui that shits on more than 95% of the nv, managed to perfectly control and summon the kyuubi! which no one had done in about a 90-100 years and was so op gerotora, jiraiyas toad laughed at the possibility of such a feat. He was basically just Madara, said by Madara himself(manga fact).

Obito was op, minato beat him. Deal with it lol.

 

[Lightbringer]

Are u stupid?
Since when does age mean sh!t in naruto?
-an 11 year old beat a 40 year old sannin
-8-9 year old hashirama/Madara beat adults from the uchiha and senju clans
-a 16 year old gaara became kazekage
- at age 12, gaara was the 'ultimate weapon' used in oros crush the leaf

Etc. notjust that, very same obito solod dozens of hidden mist anbu, could perfectly use the mouton, knew rikudo and uchiha kinjutsu, had a kammui that shits on more than 95% of the nv, managed to perfectly control and summon the kyuubi! which no one had done in about a 90-100 years and was so op gerotora, jiraiyas toad laughed at the possibility of such a feat. He was basically just Madara, said by Madara himself(manga fact).

Obito was op, minato beat him. Deal with it lol.

lol calling me names now? This is why I don't argue with children.

So you're telling me that Hashirama and Madara as kids had the same caliber as adults? lel

If you're calling a 14 year old Obito "top-tier" then I would hate to know what you call him as an adult. By top tier, I mean top 10. 14 year old Obito was not "top 10".

A 14 year old Obito almost beat Minato. Minato is not defeating him as an adult. Deal with it.

 

[KidGamer65]

A 14 year old Obito almost beat Minato. Minato is not defeating him as an adult. Deal with it.

It's funny. People regurgitate this same old argument, always playing the age card, even though Obito was proficient with his Kamui, had the ability to use Katon, and his Mokuton, yet still lost...but for some ridiculous reason he'll be able to beat Minato with the same move that failed against him the first time...because of what? Oh yeah, he's older.

Not to mention 14 year old Obito almost beating Minato is something you made up. He got the jump on Minato, Minato countered. Then Minato shat on him. Please tell me where the bold happened.

 

[AlphaScythian]

It's funny. People regurgitate this same old argument, always playing the age card, even though Obito was proficient with his Kamui, had the ability to use Katon, and his Mokuton, yet still lost...but for some ridiculous reason he'll be able to beat Minato with the same move that failed against him the first time...because of what? Oh yeah, he's older.

Not to mention 14 year old Obito almost beating Minato is something you made up. He got the jump on Minato, Minato countered. Then Minato shat on him. Please tell me where the bold happened.

And genjutsu and more tbbs in all directions and his max speed kamui when he DID lay a hand on minato.

The plot restrictions are too obvious.

 

[Gold Lightning]

And genjutsu and more tbbs in all directions and his max speed kamui when he DID lay a hand on minato.

The plot restrictions are too obvious.

***** pls Lol

Minato didn't even use shadow clones. You know how badly the stomp would have been than it already was, if he used a clone?

Talks about plot restrictions. Was it not enough for you that obito had intel while minato had none? You wanna talk plot restrictions. Minato could have killed Obito right there and then, but instead kishi let him escape. Minato could have sent a clone to chase that fodder, but that would ruin the entire story of course.

 

[KidGamer65]

And genjutsu and more tbbs in all directions and his max speed kamui when he DID lay a hand on minato.

The plot restrictions are too obvious.

1. Genjutsu? He had that, if he could've landed it, he would have. But he couldn't.

2. Bijuu Dama? He sent Kurama to the village to destroy it, even if he hadn't, firing Bijuu Dama only means Minato redirects it and hits Kurama directly.

3. The fact that you can only bring an instance where Obito had to sneak up on Minato to touch him only proves my point. Obito is shit compared to Minato.

 

[Xlad]

Kushina reacted to ftg In the bedroom not impressed thus that's how minato got his name the yellow flash


Makes all the women snicker when they hear it

Damn...

 

[Bronze]

There is a time frame between Hirashain and after teleporting. The opponent is only reacting after the teleportation had been cast. It is impossible to react to Hirashain; it leaves no time and distance, as it is instantaneous and movement. You are also incorrect on the account of ''Only juubi jins can react to ftg''. Obito didn't react to the Jutsu after becoming Jinchuuriki - Tobirama was playing around with him using it. He only reacted after getting the hang of where they are teleporting. Beside that, Bee already showed you don't need SM to react to it. You only a God tier reflex and response to deal with Hirashain.

 

[Lightbringer]

It's funny. People regurgitate this same old argument, always playing the age card, even though Obito was proficient with his Kamui, had the ability to use Katon, and his Mokuton, yet still lost...but for some ridiculous reason he'll be able to beat Minato with the same move that failed against him the first time...because of what? Oh yeah, he's older.

Not to mention 14 year old Obito almost beating Minato is something you made up. He got the jump on Minato, Minato countered. Then Minato shat on him. Please tell me where the bold happened.

So you believe that Obito remained the same and never developed as a shinobi since his last battle with Minato? Great.

I'm sorry, did Minato not die?

 

[KidGamer65]

So you believe that Obito remained the same and never developed as a shinobi since his last battle with Minato? Great.

Nope. I suggest we stop trying to put words in others mouths. I believe Obito didn't develop enough to let him defeat Minato, and I don't expect you to bring evidence that he did.

 

[Lightbringer]

Nope. I suggest we stop trying to put words in others mouths. I believe Obito didn't develop enough to let him defeat Minato, and I don't expect you to bring evidence that he did.

You mean aside for the rinnegan, being able to summon a Gedo Mazou along with the Bijuu, being able to take on 4 really tough shinobi (Gai, Kakashi, Naruto, Bee), and also becoming more proficient in combat and kamui after 17 years?

 

[KidGamer65]

You mean aside for the rinnegan, being able to summon a Gedo Mazou along with the Bijuu, being able to take on 4 really tough shinobi (Gai, Kakashi, Naruto, Bee), and also becoming more proficient in combat and kamui after 17 years?

So you believe that Obito remained the same and never developed as a shinobi since his last battle with Minato? Great.

I'm sorry, did Minato not die?

Minato died because he sacrificed himself. The only thing that gives him the decisive win against Minato are the Bijuu, which aren't even his power as he needs Kabuto's help to use them. He can't use any Rinnegan techs by feats, and he only has the Mazo.

Also, take on? The only reason they struggled is cause they lacked what Minato has, a solid counter to Kamui. Once they found their solid counter Obito was going to get shat on, then Madara came to save his ass. Lol.

Though I was referring to an adult MS Obito, since that proves my main point. Age is irrelevant.

 

[Lightbringer]

Minato died because he sacrificed himself. The only thing that gives him the decisive win against Minato are the Bijuu, which aren't even his power as he needs Kabuto's help to use them. He can't use any Rinnegan techs by feats, and he only has the Mazo.

Also, take on? The only reason they struggled is cause they lacked what Minato has, a solid counter to Kamui. Once they found their solid counter Obito was going to get shat on, then Madara came to save his ass. Lol.

Though I was referring to an adult MS Obito, since that proves my main point. Age is irrelevant.

And what can Minato do against the Mazou? Nothing, he can't even seal one bijuu without killing himself.

Let's not forget that the only reason Obito was struggling was because Kakashi had the Kamui (Obito's own power mind you) which let Naruto into his own dimension. Good luck fighting against a double MS Obito or a double MS Kakashi for that matter.

So the real statement should be, a handicapped 14 year old Obito gave prime Minato trouble)