Were all being hijacked and us lazy asses arent doing anything..

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Maybe if you actually watched the video I sent you, and actually used common sense and perhaps just perhaps listened to what I said earlier you would of had a different state of mind. Also, truth is a story. Science is a Story, GOD is a story.. Every single individual is a story. Not all stories are false you know that ^^.. Pride is one of mans greatest enemies.. Just laying it out there :scorps:
When you look at the history of what we know about the world, you see a noticeable pattern. Natural explanations of things have been replacing supernatural explanations of them. Like a steamroller. Why the Sun rises and sets. Where thunder and lightning come from. Why people get sick. Why people look like their parents. How the complexity of life came into being. I could go on and on.

All these things were once explained by religion. But as we understood the world better, and learned to observe it more carefully, the explanations based on religion were replaced by ones based on physical cause and effect. Consistently. Thoroughly. Like a steamroller. The number of times that a supernatural explanation of a phenomenon has been replaced by a natural explanation? Thousands upon thousands upon thousands.

Now. The number of times that a natural explanation of a phenomenon has been replaced by a supernatural one? The number of times humankind has said, "We used to think (X) was caused by physical cause and effect, but now we understand that it's caused by God, or spirits, or demons, or the soul"?

Exactly zero.

Sure, people come up with new supernatural "explanations" for stuff all the time. But explanations with evidence? Replicable evidence? Carefully gathered, patiently tested, rigorously reviewed evidence? Internally consistent evidence? Large amounts of it, from many different sources? Again -- exactly zero.

Given that this is true, what are the chances that any given phenomenon for which we currently don't have a thorough explanation -- human consciousness, for instance, or the origin of the Universe -- will be best explained by the supernatural?

Given this pattern, it's clear that the chances of this are essentially zero. So close to zero that they might as well be zero. And the hypothesis of the supernatural is therefore a hypothesis we can discard. It is a hypothesis we came up with when we didn't understand the world as well as we do now... but that, on more careful examination, has never once been shown to be correct.

If I see any solid evidence to support God, or any supernatural explanation of any phenomenon, I'll reconsider my disbelief. Until then, I'll assume that the mind-bogglingly consistent pattern of natural explanations replacing supernatural ones is almost certain to continue.

(Oh -- for the sake of brevity, I'm generally going to say "God" in this chapter when I mean "God, or the soul, or metaphysical energy, or any sort of supernatural being or substance." I don't feel like getting into discussions about, "Well, I don't believe in an old man in the clouds with a white beard, but I believe..." It's not just the man in the white beard that I don't believe in. I don't believe in any sort of religion, any sort of soul or spirit or metaphysical guiding force, anything that isn't the physical world and its vast and astonishing manifestations.
 

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And also, I don't mind how your insulting me because im pretty sure if your genuinely seeking truth your gonna be the one talking about God to others.. Hahaha so I can relate to peoples past forms..
I'm sorry if I was acting rude. I was just acting rude sorry. What I'm trying to do is save you. You're being brainwashed friend. God isn't real it's just a man made concept. :win:
 

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When you look at the history of what we know about the world, you see a noticeable pattern. Natural explanations of things have been replacing supernatural explanations of them. Like a steamroller. Why the Sun rises and sets. Where thunder and lightning come from. Why people get sick. Why people look like their parents. How the complexity of life came into being. I could go on and on.

All these things were once explained by religion. But as we understood the world better, and learned to observe it more carefully, the explanations based on religion were replaced by ones based on physical cause and effect. Consistently. Thoroughly. Like a steamroller. The number of times that a supernatural explanation of a phenomenon has been replaced by a natural explanation? Thousands upon thousands upon thousands.

Now. The number of times that a natural explanation of a phenomenon has been replaced by a supernatural one? The number of times humankind has said, "We used to think (X) was caused by physical cause and effect, but now we understand that it's caused by God, or spirits, or demons, or the soul"?

Exactly zero.

Sure, people come up with new supernatural "explanations" for stuff all the time. But explanations with evidence? Replicable evidence? Carefully gathered, patiently tested, rigorously reviewed evidence? Internally consistent evidence? Large amounts of it, from many different sources? Again -- exactly zero.

Given that this is true, what are the chances that any given phenomenon for which we currently don't have a thorough explanation -- human consciousness, for instance, or the origin of the Universe -- will be best explained by the supernatural?

Given this pattern, it's clear that the chances of this are essentially zero. So close to zero that they might as well be zero. And the hypothesis of the supernatural is therefore a hypothesis we can discard. It is a hypothesis we came up with when we didn't understand the world as well as we do now... but that, on more careful examination, has never once been shown to be correct.

If I see any solid evidence to support God, or any supernatural explanation of any phenomenon, I'll reconsider my disbelief. Until then, I'll assume that the mind-bogglingly consistent pattern of natural explanations replacing supernatural ones is almost certain to continue.
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(Oh -- for the sake of brevity, I'm generally going to say "God" in this chapter when I mean "God, or the soul, or metaphysical energy, or any sort of supernatural being or substance." I don't feel like getting into discussions about, "Well, I don't believe in an old man in the clouds with a white beard, but I believe..." It's not just the man in the white beard that I don't believe in. I don't believe in any sort of religion, any sort of soul or spirit or metaphysical guiding force, anything that isn't the physical world and its vast and astonishing manifestations.
1 Wow well won't you know it, not only did you give one of the worst reasons to not believe in a God, but you made it seem as if Christianity is a part of all the other idol worship there is in the world.. You made it seem as if religious people INCLUDING Christianity is nothing more but stupid and that they believe donuts are the universe and are wrong thus for all religions are wrong. This was one of the most biased replies I have ever read in my entire time in debating people. But it's okay lol, no worries. Im going to mention a few things here and make some statements. Firstly, would you tell me someone that claims that's a Christian or said hes a Christian and was proved wrong by science? Can you show me proof that Christianity has been proved wrong through time? Go on lol.

2 Your not even making sense anymore in the second part, so because a Rock is made by materials from the earth that simply means theres no God? What are you talking about? So you mean to tell me that if I make a book with my name on it and the paper is made by trees I don't exist? Are you listening to what your saying? Are you really this foolish to make such claims? Hahaha.. You don't need to say God is the rock or a ghost moved the rock to know God is real hahaha. This really made me laugh.

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''Sure, people come up with new supernatural "explanations" for stuff all the time. But explanations with evidence? Replicable evidence? Carefully gathered, patiently tested, rigorously reviewed evidence? Internally consistent evidence? Large amounts of it, from many different sources? Again -- exactly zero. Given that this is true, what are the chances that any given phenomenon for which we currently don't have a thorough explanation -- human consciousness, for instance, or the origin of the Universe -- will be best explained by the supernatural?''

3 Welp if this is the case time to bash on your ridiculous Big bang Theory you so overwhelmingly believe in.. and the infamous evilution theory. Does the Big Bang have evidences may I ask? May we observe the Big bang? May we see the Big Bang? May we touch or test the Big bag?
Exactly we can't so next time you compare ''Religion'' make sure to add Atheism and Evolution along the train as well. Secondly, May we observe evolution? May we see a rock turn into a banana and then a banana turn into a monkey and then a monkey into a human? Can we really observe NOTHING!!!!! Creating something? Is that science? Or is it just bullshit?? Hmm I don't know but if a bunch of ''Scientist'' make a group together and call it science anyone would believe.. That's not science anymore.. Then you brag on how Creationism doesn't have evidences.. lol Hypocrite, do you look at what you believe in? You believe nothing exploded and created something.. Most importantly created intelligent design.. xD And I thought I was stupid ..


''All these things were once explained by religion. But as we understood the world better, and learned to observe it more carefully, the explanations based on religion were replaced by ones based on physical cause and effect. Consistently. Thoroughly. Like a steamroller. The number of times that a supernatural explanation of a phenomenon has been replaced by a natural explanation? Thousands upon thousands upon thousands.''

4 Its so easy to involve Christianity with all the idol worship isn't it? Also, tell me one thing that the Bible has been proven wrong on? Go on? Im waiting? What part of the bible Which is religious btw been proven wrong? ''In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth'' has that been proven wrong? Has ''He died for our sins'' Been proven wrong? Well? Im waiting... Give me Brief reasons how you can disprove the Bible just the simple KJV bible.. Go on..


5 ''When you look at the history of what we know about the world, you see a noticeable pattern. Natural explanations of things have been replacing supernatural explanations of them. Like a steamroller. Why the Sun rises and sets. Where thunder and lightning come from. Why people get sick. Why people look like their parents. How the complexity of life came into being. I could go on and on.''

Just because you find a rock doesn't mean there aren't any trees.. So just because there are new discoveries that have been found, that came from HIS Universe means that there is no room for a God? Interesting.. This logic doe..


6 ''Given that this is true, what are the chances that any given phenomenon for which we currently don't have a thorough explanation -- human consciousness, for instance, or the origin of the Universe -- will be best explained by the supernatural?


Well I don't see how ''human consciousness, for instance, or the origin of the Universe'' Will best be explained by a bunch of Atheist that think there monkeys and came from a rock and believed nothing created intelligent design can best explain the Origins of the Universe, human consciousness etc etc..

7 ''Given this pattern, it's clear that the chances of this are essentially zero. So close to zero that they might as well be zero. And the hypothesis of the supernatural is therefore a hypothesis we can discard. It is a hypothesis we came up with when we didn't understand the world as well as we do now... but that, on more careful examination, has never once been shown to be correct.''

''So Close to zero that they might as well be zero'', buddy Ill tell you how close The big Bang is to zero.. Its not even a number anymore.. Not only that God IS NOT close to 0 In fact about 70% of all Americans believe in intelligent design.. If anything The big Bang and Evolution is close to zero since the Bible offers intelligent design which fits the description of the Universe.. Man I hate that they brainwashed you into thinking like this.. It would be so great to see you use the EXACT same logic and look at what you believe in....


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''If I see any solid evidence to support God, or any supernatural explanation of any phenomenon, I'll reconsider my disbelief. Until then, I'll assume that the mind-bogglingly consistent pattern of natural explanations replacing supernatural ones is almost certain to continue.''

If I see any solid evidence to support the Big Bang or Something magical caused NOTHING to EXPLODE creating the Universe, maybe just maybe ill consider believing such fallible explanation which btw goes against science...
 
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I'm sorry if I was acting rude. I was just acting rude sorry. What I'm trying to do is save you. You're being brainwashed friend. God isn't real it's just a man made concept. :win:
Big Bang and Evolution isn't real, its just a man made concept... And your not saving no one here, but taking them away from there faith and dragging them to hell which is the opposite of Christianity, like Atheism Evolution and the Big Bang..
 

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Big Bang and Evolution isn't real, its just a man made concept... And your not saving no one here, but taking them away from there faith and dragging them to hell which is the opposite of Christianity, like Atheism Evolution and the Big Bang..
Did you even read what I wrote above ?!?!

Edit: Nevermind I'm reading it now . XD Gimmie five minutes
 

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Big Bang and Evolution isn't real, its just a man made concept... And your not saving no one here, but taking them away from there faith and dragging them to hell which is the opposite of Christianity, like Atheism Evolution and the Big Bang..
When did I bring the Bing Bang in ?!?!? What's f-cking wrong with you ????
 

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Wanna know why? Because he lives in me. That's why..
That makes no sense. I feel really sorry for you man. I hope one day you'll see the light.

There's no heaven
There's no Hell
There's no afterlife.

It's just a myth. Don't waste your life on religion.

God is a monster. How can you worship a genocidal killer? What's wrong with you. Are all texans this thick headed ? XD
 

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That makes no sense. I feel really sorry for you man. I hope one day you'll see the light.

There's no heaven
There's no Hell
There's no afterlife.

It's just a myth. Don't waste your life on religion.

God is a monster. How can you worship a genocidal killer? What's wrong with you. Are all texans this thick headed ? XD
Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.. That's all I need to quote now =D

This is for you... Incase if you do come in times of need! You will find him if you really do seek him.. But If you don't.. Then you simply won't.. Shalom!

[video=youtube;m0UAqGj-lYc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0UAqGj-lYc[/video]
 

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1 Wow well won't you know it, not only did you give one of the worst reasons to not believe in a God, but you made it seem as if Christianity is a part of all the other idol worship there is in the world.. You made it seem as if religious people INCLUDING Christianity is nothing more but stupid and that they believe donuts are the universe and are wrong thus for all religions are wrong. This was one of the most biased replies I have ever read in my entire time in debating people. But it's okay lol, no worries. Im going to mention a few things here and make some statements. Firstly, would you tell me someone that claims that's a Christian or said hes a Christian and was proved wrong by science? Can you show me proof that Christianity has been proved wrong through time? Go on lol.

2 Your not even making sense anymore in the second part, so because a Rock is made by materials from the earth that simply means theres no God? What are you talking about? So you mean to tell me that if I make a book with my name on it and the paper is made by trees I don't exist? Are you listening to what your saying? Are you really this foolish to make such claims? Hahaha.. You don't need to say God is the rock or a ghost moved the rock to know God is real hahaha. This really made me laugh.

Time to quote..

''Sure, people come up with new supernatural "explanations" for stuff all the time. But explanations with evidence? Replicable evidence? Carefully gathered, patiently tested, rigorously reviewed evidence? Internally consistent evidence? Large amounts of it, from many different sources? Again -- exactly zero. Given that this is true, what are the chances that any given phenomenon for which we currently don't have a thorough explanation -- human consciousness, for instance, or the origin of the Universe -- will be best explained by the supernatural?''

3 Welp if this is the case time to bash on your ridiculous Big bang Theory you so overwhelmingly believe in.. and the infamous evilution theory. Does the Big Bang have evidences may I ask? May we observe the Big bang? May we see the Big Bang? May we touch or test the Big bag?
Exactly we can't so next time you compare ''Religion'' make sure to add Atheism and Evolution along the train as well. Secondly, May we observe evolution? May we see a rock turn into a banana and then a banana turn into a monkey and then a monkey into a human? Can we really observe NOTHING!!!!! Creating something? Is that science? Or is it just bullshit?? Hmm I don't know but if a bunch of ''Scientist'' make a group together and call it science anyone would believe.. That's not science anymore.. Then you brag on how Creationism doesn't have evidences.. lol Hypocrite, do you look at what you believe in? You believe nothing exploded and created something.. Most importantly created intelligent design.. xD And I thought I was stupid ..


''All these things were once explained by religion. But as we understood the world better, and learned to observe it more carefully, the explanations based on religion were replaced by ones based on physical cause and effect. Consistently. Thoroughly. Like a steamroller. The number of times that a supernatural explanation of a phenomenon has been replaced by a natural explanation? Thousands upon thousands upon thousands.''

4 Its so easy to involve Christianity with all the idol worship isn't it? Also, tell me one thing that the Bible has been proven wrong on? Go on? Im waiting? What part of the bible Which is religious btw been proven wrong? ''In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth'' has that been proven wrong? Has ''He died for our sins'' Been proven wrong? Well? Im waiting... Give me Brief reasons how you can disprove the Bible just the simple KJV bible.. Go on..


5 ''When you look at the history of what we know about the world, you see a noticeable pattern. Natural explanations of things have been replacing supernatural explanations of them. Like a steamroller. Why the Sun rises and sets. Where thunder and lightning come from. Why people get sick. Why people look like their parents. How the complexity of life came into being. I could go on and on.''

Just because you find a rock doesn't mean there aren't any trees.. So just because there are new discoveries that have been found, that came from HIS Universe means that there is no room for a God? Interesting.. This logic doe..


6 ''Given that this is true, what are the chances that any given phenomenon for which we currently don't have a thorough explanation -- human consciousness, for instance, or the origin of the Universe -- will be best explained by the supernatural?


Well I don't see how ''human consciousness, for instance, or the origin of the Universe'' Will best be explained by a bunch of Atheist that think there monkeys and came from a rock and believed nothing created intelligent design can best explain the Origins of the Universe, human consciousness etc etc..

7 ''Given this pattern, it's clear that the chances of this are essentially zero. So close to zero that they might as well be zero. And the hypothesis of the supernatural is therefore a hypothesis we can discard. It is a hypothesis we came up with when we didn't understand the world as well as we do now... but that, on more careful examination, has never once been shown to be correct.''

''So Close to zero that they might as well be zero'', buddy Ill tell you how close The big Bang is to zero.. Its not even a number anymore.. Not only that God IS NOT close to 0 In fact about 70% of all Americans believe in intelligent design.. If anything The big Bang and Evolution is close to zero since the Bible offers intelligent design which fits the description of the Universe.. Man I hate that they brainwashed you into thinking like this.. It would be so great to see you use the EXACT same logic and look at what you believe in....


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''If I see any solid evidence to support God, or any supernatural explanation of any phenomenon, I'll reconsider my disbelief. Until then, I'll assume that the mind-bogglingly consistent pattern of natural explanations replacing supernatural ones is almost certain to continue.''

If I see any solid evidence to support the Big Bang or Something magical caused NOTHING to EXPLODE creating the Universe, maybe just maybe ill consider believing such fallible explanation which btw goes against science...

You didn't disprove what I said. What you said made no sense. Try again.
 

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Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.. That's all I need to quote now =D

This is for you... Incase if you do come in times of need! You will find him if you really do seek him.. But If you don't.. Then you simply won't.. Shalom!

[video=youtube;m0UAqGj-lYc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0UAqGj-lYc[/video]
Quoting a book made by uneducated buffoons doesn't prove anything. You do know the Bible isn't really historical. XD
 

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Ok look SasukeNew2


To answer your question where morality comes from :
Think for a moment, if your belief in God is the only thing stopping you from raping and murdering, then how can you call yourself a good person? It should scare you to think that the fear of Hell is the only thing stopping the Christian from committing atrocities. Further, there are a number of amoral laws in the Bible that are simply ignored today; If it is possible to decide which moral codes are relevant today that shows our ability to recognize moral behaviour without divine intervention. (Suggested Reading: The Moral Landscape by Sam Harris)
 
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