The Truth About Sakura's seal (Straight Facts).

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It's a lost cause bro

Both sides of the Sakura Vs Hinata rivalry are bias as hell...they refuse to give an inch to the character they hate.
I dislike Sakura a lot. I have said it as much plenty of times. But come on! People should give her the credit where it's due. How hard is it to accept that what she learned is the 'Pinnacle of CC'?
 

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I dislike Sakura a lot. I have said it as much plenty of times. But come on! People should give her the credit where it's due. How hard is it to accept that what she learned is the 'Pinnacle of CC'?
I agree with the idea, but like people said and showed via scans, medical techniques are differents from battle ones.
In terms of medical, she is with the top, in battle terms, Hyuuga are most undefeated.

Those are two different things that people don't get. Do comparisons about things in the same field of expertise. You won't compare a scooter to a GSXR, then people, do the same about medical techniques, and fighting techniques.
 

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I agree with the idea, but like people said and showed via scans, medical techniques are differents from battle ones.
In terms of medical, she is with the top, in battle terms, Hyuuga are most undefeated.

Those are two different things that people don't get. Do comparisons about things in the same field of expertise. You won't compare a scooter to a GSXR, then people, do the same about medical techniques, and fighting techniques.
Medics are also ninjas. Whether people like medics or not is not the manga's burden to bear.
 

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They can't release chakra out of their body? What do you call channeling their chakra through katsuyu? Or chakra transfer? They pocsess the skills to turn their chakra into landscape destroyes unlike the Hyuga. Sakura can control her chakra on a cellular level unlike the Hyga. Tsunade can turn her chakra into lightning unlike the Hyga. They can also heal thousands of people at once with the chakra unlike the Hyga. They reached the pinnacle of chakra control unlike the Hyga. They've even healed a Hyga while another couldn't.
But Hinata can use lightening style .
 

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controlling every insect and making them use chakra to heal him an outstanding feat , you have to understand how chakra control work
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So according to your logic, Torune has better chakra control than Shino, right?
Then he deserves a mention as well.
Btw this thread is a perfect example of why NDS sucks.#inb4allmods.
 

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You have no idea what you're saying. First You said you acknowledge the fact that she didn't live up her genjutsu hype, but yet you still believe her overall stats in chakra is the best despite she didn't live up to her genjutsu affinity. Please stop dodging it, You're just being too picky and trying so hard to overlook her character, it`s not working.

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Hyuga allow to manipulate chakra from every tenketsu in their body, simply put they are best when it comes to Chakra control.

There are 361 tenketsu in the body, each one being a checkpoint on the Chakra Pathway System. Though ninja use chakra regularly, very few ninja possess any great control over their tenketsu. Even of jōnin, the vast majority are only capable of releasing a small amount of chakra through their hands or feet to increase the power of punches, jumps, or kicks. For the Hyūga clan, whose entire fighting style is based around manipulating the chakra pathway system, controlling the tenketsu is a regular matter.



Chakra expulsion is used in different forms of defence used by the Hyuuga's. For example, another often overlooked ability is to expel chakra instantly from the body in a powerful manner, which is regarded to as a full body gentle fist

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This ability allow to expel and even destroy chakra similarly to gentle fist.

The last notable thing in the Hyuuga's defence is this
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It allows a user to create a massive chakra amount around them since they expel chakra from each of their Tenketsu,

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which then in turn allows them not only to create a decent defence but also gain the ability to detect, or in other words, contact sense similarly to Jiraiya's Canopy formation sensing. Moreover, this is basically what Neji uses

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The Hyuga also have the ability to destabilise an attack used against you. Simpily put anything that are made of chakra substance can be easily destroyed.

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For example, Kakashi couldn't escape the inferior water prison Zabuza used on him

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whereas Neji did so rather easily

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by expelling his chakra into the Water prison and unbalancing the control Kisame has over it.




The more chakra inputted to the user, the more damage he takes. Kidomaru had organ damage because Neji inserted a lot of chakra into his body, which then destroyed his organs

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This suggests that using large scale attacks such as Hiashi's Juubi sized Air palm

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can kill an opponent with ease, and possibly demolish large constructs such as Susano and other Chakra avatars. And inb4 no speed feats, Neji used a small variant and Kisame failed to dodge it

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the same Kisame who was reacting to v1 Bee and dodged a Raiton Pencil from point blank range. This is a small version, now imagine the Juubi sized Air palm used by Hiashi, it's basically impossible to dodge by anyone bar Rikudo tiers and it's basically guaranteed a kill if it has enough force to block the Juubi tail while also using chakra to destroy the enemies organs (or entire body in this case). And yes, it does destroy chakra as shown in the DB4, where the only difference between this and Kaguya's multiple Vacuum palms is power. Thus this ability is in a new league.


Since Hinata's Twin Lion Fists is taught by the main house to only a select few who have the chakra control to utilise it, Hiashi has it too, as he is the one passing it down as the main family leader. According to the databook, lionfist does not only increase the shape & form increase mid range destructive attack and or block all the chakras point but also sap all the chakra to whom when he/she touch.

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Notice it said `` slightest mistake in chakra control`` will completely disrupe it. Thus it increases destructive power and reach greatly, while also giving the attribute of absorbing chakra.


This attack is a clear example of shape manipulation, a pretty big one too, seeing as how Hinata is able to shape-shift her chakra to resemble Lion heads.

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Their chakra control are so great that they can even expel chakra from all 361 tenketsu covering the space within the field of vision surrounding the user which the purpose is to detect or allowing them to fully utilize chakra with attacks such as the Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven and the Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body techniques

By now, it should be making sense that the Hyuga's are the chakra masters, absorbing, destroying, expelling and analysing chakra all due to the Byakugan.. Pretty overpowered, especially knowing the fact that Hiashi's is even bigger and stronger than that.
Why do you wanna argue about something we agree on? Kishi trolled Sakura's genjutsu! What else do you want me to say?

(Chakra Control) All of that is nice but the fact of the matter is that Sakura's chakra control > Any Hyuga and it's a manga fact. It's factual meaning you can't argue it logically now does that devalue them as a clan? No it doesn't but Sakura > Hyuga chakra control. Show me a scan that says they've reached the pinnacle of chakra control. Show me a scan where a hyuga controls their chakra on a cellular level. I'll wait, matter fact I won't wait because there isn't one. You can't argue that so stop posting Hyuga techniques and summerizing or estimating the amount of chakra control required for the jutsu when the manga scan doesnt . The Manga backs up Sakura > Hyuga chakra control and I've proven that over a dozen times you however haven't.
 

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Two, why should her control be at their level?
It doesn't. The dude I was arguing with claimed that her control is better than Sasuke's. I was arguing against that.

She can have her "Pinnacle of Chakra" but she is not beating Sasuke in chakra control.

I cannot believe I have to jump to Sakura's defense, it's nauseating. Is healing thousands of Shinobis through Katsuya not chakra control? Is mastering the seal not chakra control? Seriously, I get her development is non-existent, but give the credit where it is due.
I like you better when you're defending Sasuke U_U
 

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Being UNIQUE has nothing to do with being STRONG.
It means having a personality and feats beyond being a successful Zetsu Clone.
Hinata does (she's unique in her understanding of Naruto, AND she has a really unique jutsu as far as on-screen users go).
Sakura pretty much doesn't (even her fangirling over Sasuke isn't unique, let alone her having any jutsus that are NOT slight variations of Tsunade's).
A huge shame for someone who is considered a "main" character.
And that's serious.
We can agree to disagree but Sakura > Hinata in chakra control & ninjutsu.
 

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It doesn't. The dude I was arguing with claimed that her control is better than Sasuke's. I was arguing against that.

She can have her "Pinnacle of Chakra" but she is not beating Sasuke in chakra control.


I like you better when you're defending Sasuke U_U
Sasuke's defense is mandatory. It is incumbent upon me to defend him as an avid fan. U_U Fear not. That shall never change.

It isn't. No one has CC at his level except the Sage. But bar him, her CC is excellent. That was my point.

Not true. If that were the case, then Lee also would have been given an affinity, yet he had none.
That is a bad example. He cannot use Ninjutsu, period. Having an affinity and having techniques to use it are two different things. She doesn't have any Lightening techniques.
 
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Sasuke's defense is mandatory. It is incumbent upon me to defend him as an avid fan. U_U Fear not. That shall never change.

It isn't. No one has CC at his level accept the Sage. But bar him, her CC is excellent. That was my point.



That is a bad example. He cannot use Ninjutsu, period. Having an affinity and having techniques to use it are two different things. She doesn't have any Lightening techniques.
No, it's not that he can't use ninjutsu, it''s that he has no talent for it. With that said, even if he has no ninjutsu, he would still have an affinity for a certain element, yet none is given to him, showing that the elements listed in the databook are not merely affinities, but what the characters can actually do.
 

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No, it's not that he can't use ninjutsu, it''s that he has no talent for it. With that said, even if he has no ninjutsu, he would still have an affinity for a certain element, yet none is given to him, showing that the elements listed in the databook are not merely affinities, but what the characters can actually do.
He cannot knead chakra or his chakra simply has no affinity. Hinata has no techniques, so she can have that affinity. But without feats, it's just that, an affinity. Which means nothing.
 
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