I feel like everyone believes in the 9/11 conspiracy now

[Floydical]

First off, I don't believe in any 9/11 conspiracies and feel that most have been thoroughly debunked. Yet, I feel like most Americans now believe it was an inside job. Its like the JFK assassination, very few believed it was an inside job at the time, but as the decades passed, people believed in the conspiracy theories more and more.

Getting to my point, I was debating with a guy I work with and it turns out that all 5 of the guys I work shoulder to shoulder with believe in some level of the 9/11 conspiracy. Some believe its 100% an inside job while some are less direct, but will specifically state they feel like our own people were involved in it somehow. I can't believe that citizens actually choose to believe in these conspiracies, as believing in something like this has no benefit to our nation.

Most of the conspiracy theories have been debunked and made little sense to begin with. Some of these conspiracies rely heavily on individual testimony and everyone knows you can't always trust individuals. The fact about jet fuel not being able to melt steel is irrelevant as all it needed to do was weaken the steel. Once the steel was weakened, considering the massive weight of the above floors, that was all that was needed to collapse the towers. Notice how the south tower fell first despite being hit second.... because it was hit lower and had more floors above the impact zone. Lastly, the "explosions" seen coming out of the floors all happened as the tower was already falling. Obviously those window blowouts were from pressure being released from air being pushed out.

Either way.... getting back to what I pointed out before.... I find no point in believing in such a conspiracy. When I argue this conspiracy, I ask the person what benefit does believing in this give you? What good would you be doing if you actually proved this? They always say that its to convince people the government can't be trusted and that it will open people's minds. Even if it was proven true, what benefit would there be from everyone being against the government? Would a revolution benefit us? Clearly such a thing would be disastrous for the whole country. Again I see no point in believing in this conspiracy considering the gravity of what people are proposing and the evil it would entail.

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[Xaiban]

Just out of curiosity, how do you explain the third buildings collapse?

 

[Ryuma720]

9/11 was an inside go to the memorial to find out !!!!!!























Just kidding

 

[Gerkak]

A plane that small destroying a building that size is impossible. That's like saying a baby carriage going at 300 km/hr can destroy a house Lol.

Building 7 collapsed for no reason. Inside jobs have been done before I see no reason why it wouldn't be done now.

 

[The Great Second Hokage]

I don't, I hope others don't as well. People tend to draw conclusions about world events out of thin air and for the traumatic events like this. Its almost sickening.

 

[V h o]

The Illuminati planned 9/11 and are monitoring the internet.

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[Floydical]

Just out of curiosity, how do you explain the third buildings collapse?

I'm pretty sure that building was hit by a lot of debris. Also, the sheer forces involved in the collapse could have weakened the integrity of other buildings. Moreover, why would they purposely demolish another building if they were hiding the fact its an inside job? That building had no importance, why would they risk destroying that one too?

The only suspicion I have is the fact that it was controlled demolition, the buildings collapsed perfectly.

The buildings are massive and they were hit in the middle. Of course they'd fall like they did, but notice the south tower did fall at a bit of an angle.

A plane that small blowing up a building that size is impossible. That's like saying a baby carraige going at 300 km/hr can blow up a house Lol.

Building 7 collapsed for no reason. Inside jobs have been done before I see no reason why it wouldn't be done now.

This is what gets me. People assuming they know the forces involved to say what happened didn't make sense. We're talking about unimaginable forces. We're talking about jet liners, the holes in the buildings were almost the width of the tower, of course its possible they'd bring them down.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

I will play as devil's advocate.....
Benefits??? well they did get a free pass to go to war with iraq....to fight the terrorists and find "The Weapon of Mass Destruction" or should i say OIL!!!!

I found this great meme:

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[Xaiban]

I'm pretty sure that building was hit by a lot of debris. Also, the sheer forces involved in the collapse could have weakened the integrity of other buildings. Even if those don't make sense, why would they purposely demolish another building if they were hiding the fact its an inside job? That building had no importance, why would they risk destroying that one too?


This is what gets me. People assuming they know the forces involved to say what happened didn't make sense. We're talking about unimaginable forces. We're talking about jet liners, the holes in the buildings were almost the width of the tower, of course its possible they'd bring them down.

There were several buildings, all of which were mostly undamaged, between them. How could a building so far away that sustained such little damage collapse the exact same way the towers did?

 

[Urda]

Only in America..... That's when you know you don't trust your governement. Baack to the topic, they have no evidence so that why I don't believe them.

 

[Xaiban]

Only in America..... That's when you know you don't trust your governement. Baack to the topic, they have no evidence so that why I don't believe them.

There was a scientist that said he discovered traces of nano-thermites in the wreckage. There was a man who survived the third towers collapse that said he saw and heard explosions before the twin towers collapsed, while trying to evacuate the building.

I would also like to say that I'm not a conspiracy guy, but there are some questions that haven't been answered.

 

[Gerkak]

This is what gets me. People assuming they know the forces involved to say what happened didn't make sense. We're talking about unimaginable forces. We're talking about jet liners, the holes in the buildings were almost the width of the tower, of course its possible they'd bring them down.

Unimaginable forces? Dude this is simple observation and math. Calculate the mass of the plane and its velocity and calculate the density and other dimensions of the building. Then we use the math to find out how much kinetic energy the plain would need to destroy the building. If you carry out these simple calculations you would find that the way the building was destroyed by a plane of that size and traveling at such low velocities is impossible.

And the plane was no where near as wide as the building and if it did make a hole the width of the building, the tower would have collapsed in a horizontal way not a vertical way.

I am by no means the first or the only person to think of this as you know, my thoughts and thoughts of countless others were confirmed by engineers. My example of the baby carriage and the house was a scaled down model of what "supposedly" happend, so that you may understand how silly it is.

Like I said inside jobs have been done before, why must 9/11 be an exception

 

[Avani]

Those theories have are as valid as Tobi being Ramen guy one. Didn't stop people from believing it and some still don't want to accept the real ID.

People love to make theories and try to find something new real or imaginary. You can do nothing about it. Their own theory is always going to be better and more valid that what's written on the wall right there.

 

[Ciao]

Those theories have are as valid as Tobi being Ramen guy one. Didn't stop people from believing it and some still don't want to accept the real ID.

People love to make theories and try to find something new real or imaginary. You can do nothing about it. There own theory is always going to be better and more valid that what's written on the wall right there.

The US Government has lied about incidents to start wars or pass laws that allow government to make acts of war more easily.

 

[Urda]

There was a scientist that said he discovered traces of nano-thermites in the wreckage. There was a man who survived the third towers collapse that said he saw and heard explosions before the twin towers collapsed, while trying to evacuate the building.

I would also like to say that I'm not a conspiracy guy, but there are some questions that haven't been answered.

Rumors. Their is no real evidence to suggest this was an inside job. For all I know, they can be making this up.

PS: The what the goverment would say. Then they make them look like fools. Laughing in their faces as the Judge give them a free pass.

 

[GhostProject]

Of course many do. Strong distrust in the government caused by years of war disapproved by the American people combined with poor economic stability and manipulative mass media will lead to such thoughts.

 

[Avani]

The US Government has lied about incidents to start wars or pass laws that allow government to make acts of war more easily.

So all the theorists are all knowing truth-sayer without any agendas and purpose of their own ever and their theories must be correct. Is that it?

There were a bunch of Twitter and Reddit theorists last year who at first theorized that a 22 year old university student named Sunil Tripathi was the behind the Boston bomb blast and started posting all kinds of abuses and threats, ever known to netizens, to his family's FB pages and sending them similar calls. Later when police fished out his corps and they deleted the posts and with the same zeal started theorizing that the blast didn't happen at all.

Internet self righteousness, theory makers and their Reddit and Twitter are a bane. The latest example was so called feminists getting all fired up over a shirt of a scientist and with equal number of anti feminists reacting with twice as much ferocity and giving it more importance than such a petty comment deserved and starting a war of their own.

 

[RedRobin]

It does nothing to believe in this conspiracy, it doesnt give you anything over the government and it doesnt make the government lose any of its power, what it does do is take away the sacrifice of those brave people who died that day.

To me they died saving people from a terrorist attack, they did not die saving people from their own government.

I feel people who do believe in this conspiracy deep down dont want to accept that America could be hit so hard like it was. They are simply scared.

 

[Floydical]

Unimaginable forces? Dude this is simple observation and math. Calculate the mass of the plane and its velocity and calculate the density and other dimensions of the building. Then we use the math to find out how much kinetic energy the plain would need to destroy the building. If you carry out these simple calculations you would find that the way the building was destroyed by a plane of that size and traveling at such low velocities is impossible.

And the plane was no where near as wide as the building and if it did make a hole the width of the building, the tower would have collapsed in a horizontal way not a vertical way.

I am by no means the first or the only person to think of this as you know, my thoughts and thoughts of countless others were confirmed by engineers. My example of the baby carriage and the house was a scaled down model of what "supposedly" happend, so that you may understand how silly it is.

Like I said inside jobs have been done before, why must 9/11 be an exception

Basically what you're saying is that the planes weren't actually capable of doing the damage they seemingly did. Are you one of those people that don't believe planes even entered the buildings? Because there are people who believe that. If you believe planes did actually go into the buildings, please tell me how the gapping holes they left weren't enough to down the buildings. Look again and you'll see that the majority of the width of the towers were covered by the holes the planes made, at least half the width. The buildings were strong enough to absorb the plane to the point where the planes were incinerated without coming out the other side, but not strong enough to prevent them from piercing a wall. If you truly believe the force of a plane moving at the speed they were wasn't enough to pierce the wall of the towers like they did than I feel sorry for you.

Once the planes established these gapping holes in the buildings, the fires raged on for a couple hours in the north tower. We bore witness to people jumping to their deaths. Calls were made regarding the fires, the fires were that intense. The fires burned for long enough to weaken the building's integrity. It didn't need to melt the beams in order to collapse the towers, only weaken them enough to where it could no longer sustain the weight on top of it. The south tower fell in under and hour because the damage was at a greater angle and there were more floors above to put pressure on the weakened section. People who honestly believe the planes alone could not cause the towers to collapse perplex me.

 

[Conspirator.]

The conspiracy theorists are asinine IMO. Most of it is baseless speculation. On a related note, most people don't know about the "other" 9/11. Lol