[VS] Hiruzen Vs Orochimaru: Rematch

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Location: Genesis Dimension
Distance: 50 Meters
Conditions: Hiruzen is Edo, Orochimaru has absorbed Zetsu
Restrictions: Edo Tensei, Death Reaper Seal



The 2 main jutus that greatly influenced their last fight has been removed, and the shinobi are at the strongest we have ever seen them. So if they had a rematch directly after the war with these restrictions who would be the victor?

The Student or The Sensei​
 

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Yamata no Orochi
 

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Yamata no Orochi

Why do you think Oro will win. I figured Hiruzen would defeat him because when they orignally fought in part 1 hiruzen outperformed him in taijutsu and bukijutsu.

Also, didnt see snakes being a problem since hiruzen could scorch them with Dragon Flame Bomb
 

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5 element jutsu.
 

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Orochimaru mid dif.
Even though Hiruzen's Chakra regenerates, it's still taxing so he can't spam massive Jutsus.
-He'll have to fight hordes of Orochimaru's Parasitic Clones
-He'll eventually be rendered immobile due to the Parasitic Spore Jutsu, meaning his Chakra will be absorbed and a Curse Mark will be applied to him
-Eventually one of the many Orochimaru's will brand him with a Curse Mark, leading to paralysis and then subjugation
-He has nothing that can kill Orochimaru
 

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5 element jutsu.

Single Rashoumon should be enough to stop it. And then, having the gate block Hiruzen's vision - Mayfly + Kusanagi snipe combo from beneath the ground and 5 Elements Seal to finish the job.
 
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Orochimaru mid dif.
Even though Hiruzen's Chakra regenerates, it's still taxing so he can't spam massive Jutsus.

I dont see why he wouldnt be able oto spam it. His chakra is now auto restored. Similar to how madara could duplicate summoning a meteor twice with no exhaustion. That gravitation pull on that meteor was a technique that Im sure you would even agree had to be extremely chakra taxing, and becuase madara was edo he could pull 2 with no signs of exhaustion.

Also like how Madara could create 25 mokuton clones and each one could use susanoo also had to be extremely chakra taxing yet he pulled it off with no effort.

I believe as an edo hiruzen doesnt have any limitations on what he can use and how often he can use it.

-He'll have to fight hordes of Orochimaru's Parasitic Clones
-He'll eventually be rendered immobile due to the Parasitic Spore Jutsu, meaning his Chakra will be absorbed and a Curse Mark will be applied to him
-Eventually one of the many Orochimaru's will brand him with a Curse Mark, leading to paralysis and then subjugation
Those clones will either be burned to pieces by hiruzen's clones katon or shredded by his Mulitple Shuriken jutsu

-He has nothing that can kill Orochimaru

indeed lol
 

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Single Rashoumon should be enough to stop it. And then, having the gate block Hiruzen's vision - Mayfly + Kusanagi snipe combo from beneath the ground and 5 Elements Seal to finish the job.
You mean those same walls that got wrecked by 4 tailed Naruto Lol
 

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I dont see why he wouldnt be able oto spam it. His chakra is now auto restored. Similar to how madara could duplicate summoning a meteor twice with no exhaustion. That gravitation pull on that meteor was a technique that Im sure you would even agree had to be extremely chakra taxing, and becuase madara was edo he could pull 2 with no signs of exhaustion.

Also like how Madara could create 25 mokuton clones and each one could use susanoo also had to be extremely chakra taxing yet he pulled it off with no effort.

I believe as an edo hiruzen doesnt have any limitations on what he can use and how often he can use it.


Those clones will either be burned to pieces by hiruzen's clones katon or shredded by his Mulitple Shuriken jutsu



indeed lol
You use Madara as an example, but you really shouldn't. Madara is a very special case due to Kabuto's experimentation. He was a different Edo. Mลซ, who was not tampered with, same as Hiruzen, could not use Jinton after Fission Jutsu. Meaning that an Edo cannot spam their Jutsus, but their Chakra does still regenerate over time.

Those clones are the same as Orochimaru. Orochimaru tanks his Katon. Orochimaru and his clones simply dodges the Shuriken too, as if they would even harm him... Oh, and I forgot. Mayfly and Leech All Creation > Hiruzen's Elemental barrage. You restricted the only thing in Hiruzen's arsenal that could actually take Orochimaru down.
You mean those same walls that got wrecked by 4 tailed Naruto Lol

So now we're comparing Hiruzen's move to a TBB?
 

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Yet you compare hiruzen's jutsu to part 1 Kiba Lol

Yet you compare a rashomon used by orochimaru with a rashomon used by Sakon and Ukon.
 

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And the wall changes properties by user?

Let's see Hashirama's rashomon stopped a 100% kurama TBB enhanced by a Susano'o sword and Sakon's couldn't even stop a Tsuugan. So yes, it obviously does.
 

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Let's see Hashirama's rashomon stopped a 100% kurama TBB enhanced by a Susano'o sword and Sakon's couldn't even stop a Tsuugan. So yes, it obviously does.

Let's just ignore the fact that Hashirama used 5 walls, while Sakon/Ukon used 1, which supposedly Hiruzen's attack can not even break through. Yes the weakest wall of the series... :|
 

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Let's just ignore the fact that Hashirama used 5 walls, while Sakon/Ukon used 1, which supposedly Hiruzen's attack can not even break through. Yes the weakest wall of the series... :|

So you think a full powered Kurama TBB is only 5 times as powerful as a Tsuugan?
 

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So you think a full powered Kurama TBB is only 5 times as powerful as a Tsuugan?

Each gate gets stronger than the last, first gate would be the weakest, fifth would be the strongest. Unless PS TBB from 100% Kurama is slightly stronger than 4 tailed naruto TBB (whatever the difference to make 3-5 in calculations).
 

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Epic match up. Are you allowing Hiruzen to use reasonable Konoha's Hiden's and Ninjutsu techs?
 

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I...
I honestly don't know...
Both at their primes are equaly matched in justu, knowledge and overral performance...
And I love both of those characters... :sweat:
I honestly think that five fire streams focused at one point are equal or above a four tails TBB, and I also think that Oro hรกs what it takes to bind and seal Hiruzen...
I call it a tie.
 

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I...
I honestly don't know...
Both at their primes are equaly matched in justu, knowledge and overral performance...
And I love both of those characters... :sweat:
I honestly think that five fire streams focused at one point are equal or above a four tails TBB, and I also think that Oro hรกs what it takes to bind and seal Hiruzen...
I call it a tie.

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