Rinnegan mastery.

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Where would you think Madara and Sasuke would be if they mastered their Rinnegan to their full potential?
Madara only had it for a short period of time. He couldn't use it as an old man. The first time he used his original eye was when he fought the Tailed Beasts.
Sasuke got it shortly after.
 

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Where would you think Madara and Sasuke would be if they mastered their Rinnegan to their full potential?
Madara only had it for a short period of time. He couldn't use it as an old man. The first time he used his original eye was when he fought the Tailed Beasts.
Sasuke got it shortly after.
Nice fanfiction
 

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Even if Sasuke masters Rinnegan he would still need to Juubi's power to surpass Madara's final form
 

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Nice fanfiction
Fanfiction? Read the manga.
Once he activated the Rinnegan, he gave it to Nagato.
The Edo Tensei Rinnegan was fake, so the first time he put his real Rinnegan in use is when he retrieved it against the Bijuu.
 

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Madara maybe near Hagoromo..
Sasuke still fodder!
 

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Madara had the ability to use Gedo Mazo's power with his Sharingan to create a dream-world. [ ] From inside the Genjutsu, he could train his Rinnegan mentally.
 

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Fanfiction? Read the manga.
Once he activated the Rinnegan, he gave it to Nagato.
The Edo Tensei Rinnegan was fake, so the first time he put his real Rinnegan in use is when he retrieved it against the Bijuu.

He summoned the Gedo Mazo, pleb.
 

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still fodder. if madara had byakugan he could have seen bz coming
 

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Madara had the ability to use Gedo Mazo's power with his Sharingan to create a dream-world. [ ] From inside the Genjutsu, he could train his Rinnegan mentally.
Mentally doesn't necessarily mean he could perfect it physically.
 

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Mentally doesn't necessarily mean he could perfect it physically.

The experience and knowledge he gains from the Genjutsu world is real once he's in the real world. Unless you want to explain to me how Madara was teaching Obito about In'Youton, Rikudou No Jutsu, Uchiha Kinjutsu and was passing him knowledge about IT? He did all that via the Genjutsu.
 

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You misunderstood my statement. I meant that summoning the Mazou doesn't have the same effect as the effect of training for several years would have on Madara.
 
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