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I forgot that Minato has Death inside himself, which gives him a boost
Why everytime I visit this thread I feel like P4 cast is so weak -_-
It's not that they're weak, it's just that Minato is an absolute beast.

The other P3/4 party members would probably make for more interesting debates, but there's quite a lack of feats for either side, making it difficult to really reach a conclusion.
 

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It's not that they're weak, it's just that Minato is an absolute beast.

The other P3/4 party members would probably make for more interesting debates, but there's quite a lack of feats for either side, making it difficult to really reach a conclusion.
According to Elizabeth technically
Minato without SEES is just as powerful as Yu without the investigation team which I think is equal or weaker than the others on P3 and P4 cast
She said that the power of the World/Universe arcana was the power of all of them together, not of Minato/Yu individually
So O_0
 

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According to Elizabeth technically
Minato without SEES is just as powerful as Yu without the investigation team which I think is equal or weaker than the others on P3 and P4 cast
She said that the power of the World/Universe arcana was the power of all of them together, not of Minato/Yu individually
So O_0
Not exactly.

The purpose of her saying that was to emphasize the power of bonds, an important/central theme in 3/4. It's not all their power together, it's that Minato was able to come that far because of the bonds he has with other people. It's still his individual power.
 

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Not exactly.

The purpose of her saying that was to emphasize the power of bonds, an important/central theme in 3/4. It's not all their power together, it's that Minato was able to come that far because of the bonds he has with other people. It's still his individual power.
So I missread it
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It's all good, you weren't entirely wrong.

Anyways, over the holidays I've decided to compile a "feat list" for each protagonist, and also Adachi. So maybe we'll be able to rank them/understand their powers better :cool:
But didn't Adachi get so powerful because he was being possessed by Ameno-Sagiri?
 

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But didn't Adachi get so powerful because he was being possessed by Ameno-Sagiri?
Ameno-Saigiri didn't have an effect on his power, I think.

Actually, in Ultimax, he does something that shows he's still a powerhouse. There's a scene where he gets rid of some Shadows in one attack that 4+ Persona users couldn't get rid of together, attacking consecutively.
 

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Ameno-Saigiri didn't have an effect on his power, I think.

Actually, in Ultimax, he does something that shows he's still a powerhouse. There's a scene where he gets rid of some Shadows in one attack that 4+ Persona users couldn't get rid of together, attacking consecutively.
So that mean he is stronger than no INO (Izanagi-no-Okami) Yu?
Since it was all of the Investigation Team to defeat him in the game
 

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Ameno-Saigiri didn't have an effect on his power, I think.

Actually, in Ultimax, he does something that shows he's still a powerhouse. There's a scene where he gets rid of some Shadows in one attack that 4+ Persona users couldn't get rid of together, attacking consecutively.
*Cough* >_>

But didn't Adachi get so powerful because he was being possessed by Ameno-Sagiri?
Yes, the reason Adachi could fight against the entire Investigation Team in Persona 4 was due to his shadow.

Adachi: ''Don't you remember when your shadow appeared? It must have been enjoying life far more than you''. After that Adachi's eyes suddenly start to glow yellow and he was covered in a dark aura. After that he goes on to say: ''You all saw shadows as mere monsters, didn't you? These things move on pure instict. They go wild because you defy them''.

The situation was similar to Namatame. The same eyes and dark aura. Namatame was eventually possessed by his own shadow and turned into one of the Sagiri. It could be speculated that since Adachi actually never defied his shadow and embraced it he took control over it instead of the other way around.

But let's not forget that Souji/Yu and Adachi received their Persona from the same source. They should have the exact same potential given the same opportunities. Even Namatame would have awakaned Izanagi if he was only aware of his abilities to the extend Adachi and Souji/Yu were.
 
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Sorry about that -.-

Yes, the reason Adachi could fight against the entire Investigation Team in Persona 4 was due to his shadow.

Adachi: ''Don't you remember when your shadow appeared? It must have been enjoying life far more than you''. After that Adachi's eyes suddenly start to glow yellow and he was covered in a dark aura. After that he goes on to say: ''You all saw shadows as mere shadows, didn't you? These things move on pure instict. They go wild because you defy them''.

The situation was similar to Namatame. The same eyes and dark aura. Namatame was eventually possessed by his own shadow and turned into one of the Sagiri. It could be speculated that since Adachi actually never defied his shadow and embraced it he took control over it instead of the other way around.

But let's not forget that Souji/Yu and Adachi received their Persona from the same source. They should have the exact same potential given the same opportunities. Even Namatame would have awakaned Izanagi if he was only aware of his abilities to the extend Adachi and Souji/Yu were.
^^^This. Exactly this.

Naoya is the Persona guru U_U
 

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Yes, the reason Adachi could fight against the entire Investigation Team in Persona 4 was due to his shadow.

Adachi: ''Don't you remember when your shadow appeared? It must have been enjoying life far more than you''. After that Adachi's eyes suddenly start to glow yellow and he was covered in a dark aura. After that he goes on to say: ''You all saw shadows as mere monsters, didn't you? These things move on pure instict. They go wild because you defy them''.

The situation was similar to Namatame. The same eyes and dark aura. Namatame was eventually possessed by his own shadow and turned into one of the Sagiri. It could be speculated that since Adachi actually never defied his shadow and embraced it he took control over it instead of the other way around.

But let's not forget that Souji/Yu and Adachi received their Persona from the same source. They should have the exact same potential given the same opportunities. Even Namatame would have awakaned Izanagi if he was only aware of his abilities to the extend Adachi and Souji/Yu were.
What, seriously, what
I'm confused now
Marie said that Ameno-Sagiri and Kunino-Sagiri are with her and Izanami-no-Okami part of Izanami-no-Mikoto
So how was Kunino formed by Namatame's shadow?
I thought Marie also said that's because Namatame's and Adachi's eyes turned gold/yellow, because Namatame rejected his shadow not explicity, he couldn't use his persona, so his shadow which was possessed by Kunino took his body and transformed into that boss that I hate...
Adachi accepted Ameno/his shadow so he could use his persona with a "red card"
If I recall correctly, Izanami only gave Yu, Adachi and Namatame the power to enter the TV World, Adachi's persona was the opposite as Yu because Adachi IS the opposite of Yu...
That's what I think :shy:
 

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Marie said that Ameno-Sagiri and Kunino-Sagiri are with her and Izanami-no-Okami part of Izanami-no-Mikoto
So how was Kunino formed by Namatame's shadow?
I thought Marie also said that's because Namatame's and Adachi's eyes turned gold/yellow, because Namatame rejected his shadow not explicity, he couldn't use his persona, so his shadow which was possessed by Kunino took his body and transformed into that boss that I hate...
Adachi accepted Ameno/his shadow so he could use his persona with a "red card"
If I recall correctly, Izanami only gave Yu, Adachi and Namatame the power to enter the TV World, Adachi's persona was the opposite as Yu because Adachi IS the opposite of Yu...
That's what I think :shy:
Sorry, I'll get back to you on this as soon as I've re-visited Persona 4 Golden. I've been far too invested in the original Persona 4 that I forgot how much impact Marie made to the story.

I'll have to read up on Golden soon. Although the reason Adachi awakened Magatsu-Izanagi was not because he was the opposite of Yu. It's because he represented Emptiness and his form of Izanagi took after that. Yu represented Hope and so his Izanagi was ''pure''. Namatame represented Despair, so his Izanagi would have represented that. That's all the things I can say for certain right now.
 
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Better yet, I should read up some more on Shinto mythology. I'm sure I could find some things here and there relating to the P4 Golden story.
Good idea. There's bound to be a few parallels. I can already think of a few off the top of my head with Izanagi/Izanami, her true form and Izanagi's journey to Yomi, etc.
 

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Sorry, I'll get back to you on this as soon as I've re-visited Persona 4 Golden. I've been far too invested in the original Persona 4 that I forgot how much impact Marie made to the story.

I'll have to read up on Golden soon. Although the reason Adachi awakened Magatsu-Izanagi was not because he was the opposite of Yu. It's because he represented Emptiness and his form of Izanagi took after that. Yu represented Hope and so his Izanagi was ''pure''. Namatame represented Despair, so his Izanagi would have represented that. That's all the things I can say for certain right now.
Yeah, she really has a huge impact in the history
Good idea. There's bound to be a few parallels. I can already think of a few off the top of my head with Izanagi/Izanami, her true form and Izanagi's journey to Yomi, etc.
If I remember correctly, Izanami died, Izanagi went to the Yomu (underworld), she said to he not look at her, as she was in that ugly form, he did, so she got mad and tried to release the forces of the underworld upon the living, but he blocked the path with a boulder, and she became Izanami-no-Okami, becoming the goddess of the underworld
 

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I feel like you guys are having a very juicy conversation without me. Give me some sleep, never mind, I'm already typing and it's almost 6 a.m. and I'm not tired. Great sleep schedule. I need to fix it...someday.

And the reason why I had Magatsu Izanagi instead of Izanagi is because Izanagi gave Yu, Namatame, and me the same power (the reason behind this being to "stir things up" in the town of Inaba), which is basically the "Persona". Namatame and I f*cked ours' up. I corrupted mine because of "emptiness", however, allow me to further speculate on this fact. Normally, without the power I had been granted, I'm just your average joe with a bit more hardships than most. The reason why I am supposedly representing "emptiness" is because of the way I was shunned when I was younger both in school and likely, family. And yes, I do share a lot of this fault, but unlike Yu, I saw the world through a glass that was "half empty" rather than "half full". There are many reasons leading up to this cause, but I'd suppose you wouldn't want to hear my rather pathetic history or grievances.

Being unable to "fit into" society or attune to the "normal life" that everyone else had around me, there was always a significant, yet indisputable hole within me that I constantly tried to fill and was unsuccessful in doing so. I was jealous of everyone around me and their seemingly happy lives full of people that cared about them or the prominent role that they had on a daily basis and this only grew when I met Yu. Here a random kid came out of nowhere and already had family ties, taking away the little time I already had with Dojima (not like I really mattered to the guy, he probably hated me since my head was never in my work) and instantaneously fitting into his more privileged life.

At this point, I'd probably laugh to myself. You realize that the fact that I was able to embrace my shadow, or what you might have seen as a representative factor of "evil" was largely due to the rush of power and importance I felt when I discovered I had the sudden power of being able to somehow reach through the TV. Here I was, a pathetic, no-name moron that was heading nowhere in life and suddenly, I could without consequence cause suffer and misery on those that I (supposedly justified in my head) believed deserved no less. Like that Mayumi Yamano. And no, I won't go into why I have an undying hate and jealously for that...female dog. I felt meaningful for once. Important. Like Light Yagami in Death Note. I didn't think Mayumi would actually die, to be honest, but hell, I wasn't there to see her suffer. All I did was push her into the TV and the deed was done. I mean, hey, I was already pathetic - how much more pathetic could I get to be called a murderer of all things?

Somewhere along the way, this power really got to my head. There was a side of me that I never knew I had that emerged through years of suffering and hate - f*ck, I just wanted to belong somewhere and mean something to someone in this godforsaken life and if I couldn't get that, I'd rather just see the people who could somehow pull off this Christmas miracle suffer. I mean, there was no way they really cared for each other. Once hardships came, they'd just do what every other human did and ditch the rest for their themselves. And the more I was proven wrong, the angrier I became and the more the jealously built. How could Yu, a mere kid and a nobody like me, become someone that essentially played a "leader role" and had so many caring for him? There must have been some stupid trick to this.

And somewhere along the back of my head, I was well aware of what a pathetic, f*cking moron I was. I knew my flaws. I knew how messed up I really was but I had suffered too much. My Shadow was myself. I wanted to see the kids suffer, I wanted to see humankind suffer because of my own selfish ideals and inability to experience the privileged life that everyone else had. So Ameno Sagiri's wish became my own. My Shadow's wish became my own. Better for everyone to be mindless beings, including myself, if everyone could just suffer like me. Understand what it's like to be me.

I was suddenly aware of my Shadow. I hated it, yet needed it...accepted it for the corrupted, twisted power that it filled me with. I wanted to see Yu suffer. We shared the same Arcana number, he the Fool, I the Jester, yet he had gone down a completely different road. As quoted, "the Jester symbolizes much of what the Fool symbolizes--ignorance, spontaneity, and freedom--but in a suppressed form. In the case of the Jester, the querent is misguided and unwilling to work with others, in contrast to the Fool, who is compatible with everyone." What was this magic that Yu worked? The damn kid. Having everything I could never want and I couldn't even forgive myself.

To commit such terrible deeds so that I could either die or simply be forgotten yet I always had a hope that I could have a life just like Yu. What a struggle.


What am I typing...ignore this complete rant please. It just kicked in. LOL. Back to the RP section.
 
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I feel like you guys are having a very juicy conversation without me. Give me some sleep, never mind, I'm already typing and it's almost 6 a.m. and I'm not tired. Great sleep schedule. I need to fix it...someday.

And the reason why I had Magatsu Izanagi instead of Izanagi is because Izanagi gave Yu, Namatame, and me the same power (the reason behind this being to "stir things up" in the town of Inaba), which is basically the "Persona". Namatame and I f*cked ours' up. I corrupted mine because of "emptiness", however, allow me to further speculate on this fact. Normally, without the power I had been granted, I'm just your average joe with a bit more hardships than most. The reason why I am supposedly representing "emptiness" is because of the way I was shunned when I was younger both in school and likely, family. And yes, I do share a lot of this fault, but unlike Yu, I saw the world through a glass that was "half empty" rather than "half full". There are many reasons leading up to this cause, but I'd suppose you wouldn't want to hear my rather pathetic history or grievances.

Being unable to "fit into" society or attune to the "normal life" that everyone else had around me, there was always a significant, yet indisputable hole within me that I constantly tried to fill and was unsuccessful in doing so. I was jealous of everyone around me and their seemingly happy lives full of people that cared about them or the prominent role that they had on a daily basis and this only grew when I met Yu. Here a random kid came out of nowhere and already had family ties, taking away the little time I already had with Dojima (not like I really mattered to the guy, he probably hated me since my head was never in my work) and instantaneously fitting into his more privileged life.

At this point, I'd probably laugh to myself. You realize that the fact that I was able to embrace my shadow, or what you might have seen as a representative factor of "evil" was largely due to the rush of power and importance I felt when I discovered I had the sudden power of being able to somehow reach through the TV. Here I was, a pathetic, no-name moron that was heading nowhere in life and suddenly, I could without consequence cause suffer and misery on those that I (supposedly justified in my head) believed deserved no less. Like that Mayumi Yamano. And no, I won't go into why I have an undying hate and jealously for that...female dog. I felt meaningful for once. Important. Like Light Yagami in Death Note. I didn't think Mayumi would actually die, to be honest, but hell, I wasn't there to see her suffer. All I did was push her into the TV and the deed was done. I mean, hey, I was already pathetic - how much more pathetic could I get to be called a murderer of all things?

Somewhere along the way, this power really got to my head. There was a side of me that I never knew I had that emerged through years of suffering and hate - f*ck, I just wanted to belong somewhere and mean something to someone in this godforsaken life and if I couldn't get that, I'd rather just see the people who could somehow pull off this Christmas miracle suffer. I mean, there was no way they really cared for each other. Once hardships came, they'd just do what every other human did and ditch the rest for their themselves. And the more I was proven wrong, the angrier I became and the more the jealously built. How could Yu, a mere kid and a nobody like me, become someone that essentially played a "leader role" and had so many caring for him? There must have been some stupid trick to this.

And somewhere along the back of my head, I was well aware of what a pathetic, f*cking moron I was. I knew my flaws. I knew how messed up I really was but I had suffered too much. My Shadow was myself. I wanted to see the kids suffer, I wanted to see humankind suffer because of my own selfish ideals and inability to experience the privileged life that everyone else had. So Ameno Sagiri's wish became my own. My Shadow's wish became my own. Better for everyone to be mindless beings, including myself, if everyone could just suffer like me. Understand what it's like to be me.

I was suddenly aware of my Shadow. I hated it, yet needed it...accepted it for the corrupted, twisted power that it filled me with. I wanted to see Yu suffer. We shared the same Arcana number, he the Fool, I the Jester, yet he had gone down a completely different road. As quoted, "the Jester symbolizes much of what the Fool symbolizes--ignorance, spontaneity, and freedom--but in a suppressed form. In the case of the Jester, the querent is misguided and unwilling to work with others, in contrast to the Fool, who is compatible with everyone." What was this magic that Yu worked? The damn kid. Having everything I could never want and I couldn't even forgive myself.

To commit such terrible deeds so that I could either die or simply be forgotten yet I always had a hope that I could have a life just like Yu. What a struggle.


What am I typing...ignore this complete rant please. It just kicked in. LOL. Back to the RP section.
Well, this was, interesting, to say at least
But the glass is neither of them
 
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If I remember correctly, Izanami died, Izanagi went to the Yomu (underworld), she said to he not look at her, as she was in that ugly form, he did, so she got mad and tried to release the forces of the underworld upon the living, but he blocked the path with a boulder, and she became Izanami-no-Okami, becoming the goddess of the underworld
Yep, that's more or less it.

If you take Yu as being a manifestation of Izanagi, and the fog representing "death" (indirectly symbolizing the passage between the living world and the underworld), you can see that Yu defeating Izanami and putting a true stop to the fog and to the TV world merging with the real world is exactly like Izanagi blocking the passage to Yomi with the boulder.

There's probably a few other parallels somewhere :coffee:

I feel like you guys are having a very juicy conversation without me. Give me some sleep, never mind, I'm already typing and it's almost 6 a.m. and I'm not tired. Great sleep schedule. I need to fix it...someday.
And the reason why I had Magatsu Izanagi instead of Izanagi is because Izanagi gave Yu, Namatame, and me the same power (the reason behind this being to "stir things up" in the town of Inaba), which is basically the "Persona". Namatame and I f*cked ours' up. I corrupted mine because of "emptiness", however, allow me to further speculate on this fact. Normally, without the power I had been granted, I'm just your average joe with a bit more hardships than most. The reason why I am supposedly representing "emptiness" is because of the way I was shunned when I was younger both in school and likely, family. And yes, I do share a lot of this fault, but unlike Yu, I saw the world through a glass that was "half empty" rather than "half full". There are many reasons leading up to this cause, but I'd suppose you wouldn't want to hear my rather pathetic history or grievances.

Being unable to "fit into" society or attune to the "normal life" that everyone else had around me, there was always a significant, yet indisputable hole within me that I constantly tried to fill and was unsuccessful in doing so. I was jealous of everyone around me and their seemingly happy lives full of people that cared about them or the prominent role that they had on a daily basis and this only grew when I met Yu. Here a random kid came out of nowhere and already had family ties, taking away the little time I already had with Dojima (not like I really mattered to the guy, he probably hated me since my head was never in my work) and instantaneously fitting into his more privileged life.

At this point, I'd probably laugh to myself. You realize that the fact that I was able to embrace my shadow, or what you might have seen as a representative factor of "evil" was largely due to the rush of power and importance I felt when I discovered I had the sudden power of being able to somehow reach through the TV. Here I was, a pathetic, no-name moron that was heading nowhere in life and suddenly, I could without consequence cause suffer and misery on those that I (supposedly justified in my head) believed deserved no less. Like that Mayumi Yamano. And no, I won't go into why I have an undying hate and jealously for that...female dog. I felt meaningful for once. Important. Like Light Yagami in Death Note. I didn't think Mayumi would actually die, to be honest, but hell, I wasn't there to see her suffer. All I did was push her into the TV and the deed was done. I mean, hey, I was already pathetic - how much more pathetic could I get to be called a murderer of all things?

Somewhere along the way, this power really got to my head. There was a side of me that I never knew I had that emerged through years of suffering and hate - f*ck, I just wanted to belong somewhere and mean something to someone in this godforsaken life and if I couldn't get that, I'd rather just see the people who could somehow pull off this Christmas miracle suffer. I mean, there was no way they really cared for each other. Once hardships came, they'd just do what every other human did and ditch the rest for their themselves. And the more I was proven wrong, the angrier I became and the more the jealously built. How could Yu, a mere kid and a nobody like me, become someone that essentially played a "leader role" and had so many caring for him? There must have been some stupid trick to this.

And somewhere along the back of my head, I was well aware of what a pathetic, f*cking moron I was. I knew my flaws. I knew how messed up I really was but I had suffered too much. My Shadow was myself. I wanted to see the kids suffer, I wanted to see humankind suffer because of my own selfish ideals and inability to experience the privileged life that everyone else had. So Ameno Sagiri's wish became my own. My Shadow's wish became my own. Better for everyone to be mindless beings, including myself, if everyone could just suffer like me. Understand what it's like to be me.

I was suddenly aware of my Shadow. I hated it, yet needed it...accepted it for the corrupted, twisted power that it filled me with. I wanted to see Yu suffer. We shared the same Arcana number, he the Fool, I the Jester, yet he had gone down a completely different road. As quoted, "the Jester symbolizes much of what the Fool symbolizes--ignorance, spontaneity, and freedom--but in a suppressed form. In the case of the Jester, the querent is misguided and unwilling to work with others, in contrast to the Fool, who is compatible with everyone." What was this magic that Yu worked? The damn kid. Having everything I could never want and I couldn't even forgive myself.

To commit such terrible deeds so that I could either die or simply be forgotten yet I always had a hope that I could have a life just like Yu. What a struggle.
What am I typing...ignore this complete rant please. It just kicked in. LOL. Back to the RP section.
Amazing monologue. You have the "writer's touch", if that's the proper expression to use :p
I read it in Adachi's voice automatically, actually >.>

Very, very true. Especially the empty glass comparison. At the end of the day, Yu and Adachi, Izanagi and Magatsu-Izanagi, are just two sides of the same coin. Two different possibilities.
 

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Yep, that's more or less it.

If you take Yu as being a manifestation of Izanagi, and the fog representing "death" (indirectly symbolizing the passage between the living world and the underworld), you can see that Yu defeating Izanami and putting a true stop to the fog and to the TV world merging with the real world is exactly like Izanagi blocking the passage to Yomi with the boulder.

There's probably a few other parallels somewhere :coffee:



Amazing monologue. You have the "writer's touch", if that's the proper expression to use :p
I read it in Adachi's voice automatically, actually >.>

Very, very true. Especially the empty glass comparison. At the end of the day, Yu and Adachi, Izanagi and Magatsu-Izanagi, are just two sides of the same coin. Two different possibilities.
Persona names maybe?
This is quoted from Persona wikia
"In Japanese mythology, Susanoo, the powerful storm of Summer, is the brother of Amaterasu, the goddess of the sun, and of Tsukuyomi, the god of the moon. All three were spawned from Izanagi, when he washed his face clean of the pollutants of Yomi, the underworld. Amaterasu was born when Izanagi washed out his left eye, Tsukuyomi was born from the washing of the right eye, and Susanoo from the washing of the nose."
Talking about Susano
Susano being the ultimate persona of Yosuke
Refering to that quote as well, Amaterasu, which is the ultimate persona of Yukiko
If only Chie's ultimate persona were Tsukyomi, it would've been better :coffee:
Kanji's ultimate persona isn't refered to Izanagi, but his initial persona is:
"Born from the blood on the sword of Izanagi when he slew the newborn fire god, Kagutsuchi. When Amatsu decided to increase their influence on the earth, they asked that Take-Mikazuchi, along with his brother, Futsunushi, descend from the High Plain of Heaven in order to pacify the deities of Izumo. The last of these, O-Kuni-Nushi, was compelled to surrender, but his son, Take-Minakata, would hear nothing of it. Twirling a boulder on his fingertips to frighten his foe, he challenged Take-Mikazuchi to a test of strength. They had the first sumo match, in which Take-Mikazuchi won by crushing the arms of Take-Minakata "like a young reed," casting them aside. Take-Minakata fled to Lake Suwa, where he married the Suwa goddess Yasakatome and became the guardian god."
I only found that he was born from the sword of Izanagi, I don't know how to relate this to Kanji
But in this text it says it's very strong in physical strenght
I didn't find anything else related to Izanagi in the other's Personas
 

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This is quoted from Persona wikia
"In Japanese mythology, Susanoo, the powerful storm of Summer, is the brother of Amaterasu, the goddess of the sun, and of Tsukuyomi, the god of the moon. All three were spawned from Izanagi, when he washed his face clean of the pollutants of Yomi, the underworld. Amaterasu was born when Izanagi washed out his left eye, Tsukuyomi was born from the washing of the right eye, and Susanoo from the washing of the nose."
Talking about Susano
Susano being the ultimate persona of Yosuke
Refering to that quote as well, Amaterasu, which is the ultimate persona of Yukiko
If only Chie's ultimate persona were Tsukyomi, it would've been better :coffee:
Kanji's ultimate persona isn't refered to Izanagi, but his initial persona is:
"Born from the blood on the sword of Izanagi when he slew the newborn fire god, Kagutsuchi. When Amatsu decided to increase their influence on the earth, they asked that Take-Mikazuchi, along with his brother, Futsunushi, descend from the High Plain of Heaven in order to pacify the deities of Izumo. The last of these, O-Kuni-Nushi, was compelled to surrender, but his son, Take-Minakata, would hear nothing of it. Twirling a boulder on his fingertips to frighten his foe, he challenged Take-Mikazuchi to a test of strength. They had the first sumo match, in which Take-Mikazuchi won by crushing the arms of Take-Minakata "like a young reed," casting them aside. Take-Minakata fled to Lake Suwa, where he married the Suwa goddess Yasakatome and became the guardian god."
I only found that he was born from the sword of Izanagi, I don't know how to relate this to Kanji
But in this text it says it's very strong in physical strenght
I didn't find anything else related to Izanagi in the other's Personas
Of course, the central theme of the new Personas in P4 was Shintoism, just like in P3 it was Greek mythology. All their names were taken directly from Shinto gods/deities.

The real question is: are there any plot points or characterization that we can connect to the cast from Shinto mythology parallels?
 
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