Kushina has only Yin affinity?

[Sharingan King]

I theorized she was Yin one year ago, and the Databook confirms it.

The fact that, from all Uzumaki in her generation, she was the only one selected, it had to be related to some special property that made her special.

I knew Uzumaki were Yang by default due the huge lifeforce, not as a confirmation, but as common sense, due the info given in chapter 462 (this is chapter 500, and the further information was given in chapter 510).

We know that Jinchuuriki with seals to imprison Bijuu need huge chakra reserves, because chakra surpress bijuu's powers. This is common knowledge. If Kurama was the bijuu known as most powerful among the bijuus, then the requirement to seal it had to be a vessel with huge chakra reserves, what do you need for this?

Chapter 17/90 explains it very well... you need stamina, which is the unmixed form of spiritual and physical energy.

How could possibly an Uzumaki be able to host a bijuu, then? They only had the body, but not the chakra... the only known users of Kurama were Naruto, Kushina, and Mito.

The only explanation I could offer is that Kushina, aside of her lifeforce, had an exceptional source of spiritual energy (Yin).

...now, in order to counter any possibility to reverse this argument, is to inquire in this matter:

If the Uzumaki were Yin users... why was Kushina special? Why do they have such lifeforce, if they are yin users, and lifeforce is the basis of Yang power?

You are trying to justify why Kushina has yin. However, this doesn't address the issue at hand. The real issue is why she doesn't possess yang.

Kushina was able to survive bijuu extraction after childbirth and she still had enough chakra and lifeforce to restrict Kurama with her chakra chains and she still survived a claw through the chest. Those are some pretty impressive feats which are all based on yang power (lifeforce). Mito also possessed incredible lifeforce and lived for a very long time. It wouldn't make sense for her to lack yang either.

Plentiful chakra, lifeforce and endurance is a product of yang.

Powerful chakra, genjutsus and creation is a product of yin.

 

[davidou]

I theorized she was Yin one year ago, and the Databook confirms it.

The fact that, from all Uzumaki in her generation, she was the only one selected, it had to be related to some special property that made her special.

I knew Uzumaki were Yang by default due the huge lifeforce, not as a confirmation, but as common sense, due the info given in chapter 462 (this is chapter 500, and the further information was given in chapter 510).

We know that Jinchuuriki with seals to imprison Bijuu need huge chakra reserves, because chakra surpress bijuu's powers. This is common knowledge. If Kurama was the bijuu known as most powerful among the bijuus, then the requirement to seal it had to be a vessel with huge chakra reserves, what do you need for this?

Chapter 17/90 explains it very well... you need stamina, which is the unmixed form of spiritual and physical energy.

How could possibly an Uzumaki be able to host a bijuu, then? They only had the body, but not the chakra... the only known users of Kurama were Naruto, Kushina, and Mito.

The only explanation I could offer is that Kushina, aside of her lifeforce, had an exceptional source of spiritual energy (Yin).

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Nice theory , well done.

Why do they have such lifeforce, if they are yin users, and lifeforce is the basis of Yang power?

That's why I'm shocked to see that she only has an affinity with Yin , she has a huge lifeforce but no affinity with Yang.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Nice theory , well done.




That's why I'm shocked to see that she only has an affinity with Yin , she has a huge lifeforce but no affinity with Yang.

And there is another thing which has merits... does having a strong body give you "yang release"?

Yin and Yang release are a strange nature among shinobi, this is also stated in the Databook. Why if Senju are Yang based shinobi, only Hashirama was able to use Yang energy to give such life to the wood element?

Yamato was impressed when Naruto gave life to his mokuton techniques...

So, I guess maybe we must think about what is Yin.

Yin Release = Yin properties? Maybe we are digging a loop in this cave, mister.

 

[davidou]

And there is another thing which has merits... does having a strong body give you "yang release"?

Yin and Yang release are a strange nature among shinobi, this is also stated in the Databook. Why if Senju are Yang based shinobi, only Hashirama was able to use Yang energy to give such life to the wood element?

Yamato was impressed when Naruto gave life to his mokuton techniques...

So, I guess maybe we must think about what is Yin.

Yin Release = Yin properties? Maybe we are digging a loop in this cave, mister.

You are right.

Yang=right , heart , physical , life , Earth , full moon or sun...
Yin=left , brain , spiritual , imagination , heaven , crescent moon...

Every Uzumaki before Kushina could have the same profile as Kushina , being Yin dominant with a huge lifeforce (that's a strange profile),
Or , Kushina and Mito could be special.

 

[davidou]

You are trying to justify why Kushina has yin. However, this doesn't address the issue at hand. The real issue is why she doesn't possess yang.

Kushina was able to survive bijuu extraction after childbirth and she still had enough chakra and lifeforce to restrict Kurama with her chakra chains and she still survived a claw through the chest. Those are some pretty impressive feats which are all based on yang power (lifeforce). Mito also possessed incredible lifeforce and lived for a very long time. It wouldn't make sense for her to lack yang either.

Plentiful chakra, lifeforce and endurance is a product of yang.

Powerful chakra, genjutsus and creation is a product of yin.

You are right too , Kushina has no affinity with Yang and that's the strange thing.

We saw that Yang is the power to put life into forms , we never saw Kushina put life into forms , did we?

Is it possible that putting life into forms has nothing to do with having a huge lifeforce?
Is it possible that having a huge lifeforce isn't a Yang "ability"?

In that case , Uzumaki would be a Yin dominant clan with huge lifeforce , given that priests are great with sealings like the Uzumaki clan , priests are more apt to developp their spirits , their Yin , that would be logical that Uzumaki sealers are Yin dominant.
There would be the answer of the name of Mito's seal on her forehead , "Yin seal".
The fact that Hashirama had a huge life force wouldn't come from his Yang dominance but more probably from Ashura.
What for Oonoki , who is Yang dominant , and Tsunade who is Yang dominant...
The Gedo Mazou would just be lifeforce , no Yang in it , only the beasts would have Yin/Yang.

It's hard to admit that having a huge lifeforce isn't a Yang power given that scan:

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Administering vitality would be different from having vitality?

 

[Mr Hiru]

You are right.

Yang=right , heart , physical , life , Earth , full moon or sun...
Yin=left , brain , spiritual , imagination , heaven , crescent moon...

Every Uzumaki before Kushina could have the same profile as Kushina , being Yin dominant with a huge lifeforce (that's a strange profile),
Or , Kushina and Mito could be special.

At least, chapter 500 states that Kushina explicitely was special, and that Mito was strong as well.

I can't really say more than that. I'd be glad if Mito appeared in the Databook... oh well :/

 

[Meowazziel]

-Naruto and Nagato have only an affinity with Yang , that is logical.

-And I saw that Kushina only had Yin affinty.
An Uzumaki that doesn't have an affinity with Yang , I'm shocked.

-I don't think that you can find in the databook a Senju that doesn't have an affinity with Yang.
It's like trying to find a Uchiha that doesn't have an affinity with Yin.

-Kushina being only Yin would be another point for the theory "Uzumaki clan doesn't come from a Senju".
Was Uzumaki a Yin dominant clan?
Mito Uzumaki being the 1st person in History seen with the "Yin seal" or "Byakugou seal" would be logical?

Kushina's chakra was special among Uzumaki so who knows.

I found it a bit odd too though when I saw she had only yin release.
Which doesnt mean btw that she doesnt have strong yang chakra, she just only has the control over yin release.

 

[davidou]

Kushina's chakra was special among Uzumaki so who knows.

I found it a bit odd too though when I saw she had only yin release.
Which doesnt mean btw that she doesnt have strong yang chakra, she just only has the control over yin release.

Are you sure that's what the symbol means , control?
That's plausible.

 

[Honord Sage]

Current info now has Naruto with both Yin and Yang release.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Current info now has Naruto with both Yin and Yang release.

But the Databook speaks otherwise... Naruto only had Yang release :/

He only managed Yin techniques when being in RS Mode (Six Paths Chibaku Tensei and Truth Seeking Orbs).

 

[Meowazziel]

Are you sure that's what the symbol means , control?
That's plausible.

Every shinobi has yin (spiritual) and yang (physical) energies.
Together they form chakra.

Some have stronger yin energies (like for example Uchiha) others stronger yang energies (like Senju).

Having control over yin and/or yang, as in yin or yang relase is something else than having yin and yang in you.
Being able to combine yin and yang release into yinyang release is on a whole new lvl (Like Hagoromo can).

Thats how I understood it.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Every shinobi has yin (spiritual) and yang (physical) energies.
Together they form chakra.

Some have stronger yin energies (like for example Uchiha) others stronger yang energies (like Senju).

Having control over yin and/or yang, as in yin or yang relase is something else than having yin and yang in you.
Being able to combine yin and yang release into yinyang release is on a whole new lvl (Like Hagoromo can).

Thats how I understood it.

Chapter 510/17/90 explains it.

You're kinda right about that perception.

Spiritual Energy forms part of the Yin power.
Physical Energy forms part of the Yang power.

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Both combined forms Chakra, while both not combined are Stamina (Chakra Reserves)

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Every shinobi has these energies. But their ability to use them separately may vary, there is no reason to force a relationship between the release and innate patterns.

For instance, it is stated that Naruto had great chakra reserves. Is there any proof that all Uzumaki have great chakra reserves? Not as far as I know, since they are known for their longevity, not due their chakra reserves.

Naruto was special.

 

[Honord Sage]

But the Databook speaks otherwise... Naruto only had Yang release :/

He only managed Yin techniques when being in RS Mode (Six Paths Chibaku Tensei and Truth Seeking Orbs).

Its confirm He has both, He retain both.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Its confirm He has both, He retain both.

Where? Databook is the most recent information, you know.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Yin seal is yang natured.
Kushina is like sakura, so it's no surprising.
Obito was Uchiha but had yang chakra

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Yang life force and yin nature affinity is different.
yang is a given for Uzumaki.
In Kushina's case, her inclination for chakra nature is Yin.
maybe the chakra chains are yin based. Makes form out of nothing.

 

[davidou]

1/Yin seal is yang natured.
2/Kushina is like sakura, so it's no surprising.
3/Obito was Uchiha but had yang chakra

1/Where is that stated?
Do you say that because the Yin seal has the ultimate power of regeneration?
That makes us think to Hashirama's ability , who was a Yang dominant shinobi.
It's very probable that regeneration is a Yang ability , given that "the basis of Yang power" is "administering vitality" into a form.

2/Sakura has both symbols in the databook , Kushina only has the Yin symbol.

3/Obito has only the Yin symbol in the databook , although he has the sun staff in rikudou's mode , that's a bit strange , isn't it?
That would mean that the sun staff is representing the will of the user not the Yin or Yang of the user.
That would mean that you can be Yin and have the will of fire (Ashura's will) , like Obito , and that you could be Yang and have the will of hatred (Indra's) , like Nagato.
Itachi and Madara are Uchiha with both Yin and Yang symbols in the databook.

 

[Mr Hiru]

1/Where is that stated?
Do you say that because the Yin seal has the ultimate power of regeneration?
That makes us think to Hashirama's ability , who was a Yang dominant shinobi.
It's very probable that regeneration is a Yang ability , given that "the basis of Yang power" is "administering vitality" into a form.

2/Sakura has both symbols in the databook , Kushina only has the Yin symbol.

3/Obito has only the Yin symbol in the databook , although he has the sun staff in rikudou's mode , that's a bit strange , isn't it?
That would mean that the sun staff is representing the will of the user not the Yin or Yang of the user.
That would mean that you can be Yin and have the will of fire (Ashura's will) , like Obito , and that you could be Yang and have the will of hatred (Indra's) , like Nagato.
Itachi and Madara are Uchiha with both Yin and Yang symbols in the databook.

Now I feel more confused. Thanks XD

 

[davidou]

Now I feel more confused. Thanks XD

I like to raise doubts , thanks =D

 

[Mr Hiru]

I like to raise doubts , thanks =D

But, really, about Obito, I think I already mentioned a possible reason of why he had mastery over Yang in his Rikudou Mode.

It seems Rikudou Mode enables the user to have mastery over 5 elements and Yin and Yang Release.

I mean, Obito had mastery over the Truth Seeking Orbs, right?

Truthseeker Orbs

Listed as just a Ninjutsu (not Kekkei Mōra), used by Madara, Obito, and Naruto. It says that when an individual manifests (literally "blossoms" 開花) Six Paths Senjutsu, black orbs comprising the power of all five elements and yin-yang appear, forming a circle that floats behind them. They can manipulate each orb independently. Each orb is about the size of a fist and hides within enough power to completely obliterate a forest. With the power of Creation of All Things, put simply, the shape of the black orbs can be freely altered, and the many natures comprising them can be combined to manifest a variety of effects. It is a power that easily exceeds both Kekkei Genkai and Kekkei Tōta.

PS: I need to make a minor (okay, somewhat major) correction on the Truthseeker Orbs thing.

I accidentally translated the phrase shinra bansho as "creation of all things," but it actually means "all of creation" or "everything in the universe." It's not saying that they're using the Ninjutsu "Creation of All Things" to manipulate/control the Truthseeker Orbs, but rather that they're using "the power of the universe".

It's not like Obito in his base mode can use Yang Release, but rather than that, he can do it in Rikudou Mode.

...another thing that I have to mention (unrelated to this) is that earlier in our discussion, I told something about shinra bansho not being Creation of All Things (since it is described in this quote), and I really meant it.

Shinra Bansho is the "Power of the universe", and Banbutzu Souzou is "Creation of All Things". The later one is explicitely a Yin-Yang Release technique. But Shinra Bansho is not a jutsu... Just to clearify things, of course.