Sasuke's Rinnegan Genjutsu has no defense except Rinnegan (what's Naruto's answer?)

[shadowcb]

Too bad you nor Sasuke knows Naruto's full capability. Just because Sasuke assumed Naruto couldn't deal with IT doesn't mean is true. Naruto is something nobody has ever seen before. He possess all the tails beast chakra, is able to use their individual chakra, and possess six path sage mode. Remember the rinnegan and all the tails beast were both needed to free anyone who was under control of IT.

You should have realized that Sasuke never once used a genjutsu on Naruto. Yet, he placed the tails beast under a genjutsu (showing us he was capable of using a rinnegan genjutsu) and he wanted to kill Naruto. That implies that the reason he didn't use a genjutsu on Naruto was because he knew it wouldn't have worked. Sasuke even stated after he used his genjutsu that Naruto was the only one standing in his way.

Naruto could have freed the tails beast, but didn't because he didn't want them interfering with his battle. The tail beast was pissed off at Sasuke would have tried to kill him so by leaving them trapped he ensure Sasuke wouldn't be killed.

The only thing you have proven is Sasuke rinnegan makes him immune to IT. The manga have proven that rinnegan and sharingan users aren't immune to sound base genjutsu.

 

[Sharingan King]

Its amazing the number of fools who downplay this thread.

I see people using dumb logic. Why didn't Sasuke do this or do that? Lol Sasuke isn't a real person. He does whatever Kishi wants him to do.

It has been established that chakra disruption isn't always effective. Hence, Yagura a perfect jin, was placed under genjutsu for years. Killer Bee was placed under genjutsu by an inexperienced MS Sasuke for about 2-3 seconds. Naruto needed Sasuke to break his bijuu buddies out of genjutsu. Naruto needed Sasuke to protect him from IT.

Itachi's Tsukuyome is instant and works before bijuu can break their hosts out of it. Sasuke used a genjutsu on Sakura which showed similar effects of being instant.

Instead of preparing Kagasutchi, Sasuke should have used genjutsu on Naruto while Kurama was asleep. GG

Lastly, Naruto wasn't needed to break everyone out of IT. Only Sasuke and the bijuu were needed.

 

[Apêx1]

So let me get this straight...

You're saying because Sasuke is immune to IT, that his Genjutsu follows the same suit in being uncounterable via the partner method? That's basically like saying that Sasuke's 3T Genjutsu is greater than Itachi's Tsukuyomi just because he resisted it.

No, it's because Sasuke extracted their chakra;s, which in turn, would disrupt their chakra, and they were still under Genjutsu. They were constantly being closed on by massive rocks, thus neither chakra disruption nor physical trauma has an effect on them, hence OP's point that it can only be countered by another Rinnegan.

 

[Milojko]

Sasuke probably talking about infinite tsukuyomi , if rinnegan gejnutsu could break only other rinnegan then Nagato would be invincible and he would solo five great nations take bijuus and fulfil his plan . So no this is probably misconception. And if only rinnegan could release that genjutsu , then why Hagoromo said both power's are needed.

 

[Apêx1]

Sasuke probably talking about infinite tsukuyomi , if rinnegan gejnutsu could break only other rinnegan then Nagato would be invincible and he would solo five great nations take bijuus and fulfil his plan . So no this is probably misconception. And if only rinnegan could release that genjutsu , then why Hagoromo said both power's are needed.

Terrible analogies. How does breaking Genjutsu allow him to take over 5 nations when he couldn't take over 1 without genjutsu ever being used on him? Smart. The SA would literally take a shit on him in the first second, let alone BSM Naruto/EMS Sasuke/8th Gate Gai/etc. That's not releasing the genjutsu itself, but rather the tree's control on them. No one ever claimed Sasuke can release genjutsu on someone else did they? That's what I thought..

 

[Milojko]

Terrible analogies. How does breaking Genjutsu allow him to take over 5 nations when he couldn't take over 1 without genjutsu ever being used on him? Smart. The SA would literally take a shit on him in the first second, let alone BSM Naruto/EMS Sasuke/8th Gate Gai/etc. That's not releasing the genjutsu itself, but rather the tree's control on them. No one ever claimed Sasuke can release genjutsu on someone else did they? That's what I thought..

I was talking before EMS sasuke, Bsm naruto . Only SM naruto would lose aganist Nagato. If only one second is nedeed to cast that gejnutsu and nobody can't release it then how will anybody defeat nagato ? I will repeat my self before war arc . Only Itachi had chance .

 

[Apêx1]

I was talking before EMS sasuke, Bsm naruto . Only SM naruto would lose aganist Nagato. If only one second is nedeed to cast that gejnutsu and nobody can't release it then how will anybody defeat nagato ? I will repeat my self before war arc . Only Itachi had chance .

What. the. ****. Since when does Nagato have a hybrid eye in order to cast Rinnegan empowered genjutsu?

 

[Milojko]

Terrible analogies. How does breaking Genjutsu allow him to take over 5 nations when he couldn't take over 1 without genjutsu ever being used on him? Smart. The SA would literally take a shit on him in the first second, let alone BSM Naruto/EMS Sasuke/8th Gate Gai/etc. That's not releasing the genjutsu itself, but rather the tree's control on them. No one ever claimed Sasuke can release genjutsu on someone else did they? That's what I thought..

You probably did not understood what I wanna say.

 

[Milojko]

What. the. ****. Since when does Nagato have a hybrid eye in order to cast Rinnegan empowered genjutsu?

He has Madara's eyes that is enough to do anything .

Edit: Every rinnegan has special ability but also have six paths . Madara have limbo , Sasuke teleportation , but the rest of their ability's are the saim.

 

[TrollingSage]

Your thread is full of holes. First of all there would have been no physical trauma whatsoever. The bijuu were safely sealed in C/T. The explosions wouldn't cause any physical trauma to them if they've been sealed. Also, we don't really know if the genjutsu hadn't already worn off after the fight. We only saw Sasuke undoing C/T.
Lastly for those idiots still going on about Yagura, he was never confirmed to be a perfect jinchuriki. He was only said to be able to control his bijuu, but then again so was KM Naruto, and he wasn't a perfect jinchuriki was he.

Lastly about your idiotic chakra disruption theory, you're missing one important detail. Genjutsu disturbs or disrupts the victims chakra. In order to break the gen jutsu to be broken, there has to be a disruption that isn't coming from the one that cast the gen jutsu, meaning since Sasuke was the one that cast the genjutsu, him taking chakra from the wouldnt break it because it will be part of the gen jutsu. Therefore your whole theory is wrong.

 

[Apêx1]

He has Madara's eyes that is enough to do anything .

Edit: Every rinnegan has special ability but also have six paths . Madara have limbo , Sasuke teleportation , but the rest of their ability's are the saim.

No, Madara cannot use his Sharingan abilities whilst using his Rinnegan, otherwise he'd never have to revert to his EMS. Sasuke can use all abilities with the same eye, thus the point is moot.

 

[Milojko]

No, Madara cannot use his Sharingan abilities whilst using his Rinnegan, otherwise he'd never have to revert to his EMS. Sasuke can use all abilities with the same eye, thus the point is moot.

edo rinnegan Madara could use Susano. So you are wrong.

 

[Apêx1]

Your thread is full of holes. First of all there would have been no physical trauma whatsoever. The bijuu were safely sealed in C/T. The explosions wouldn't cause any physical trauma to them if they've been sealed. Also, we don't really know if the genjutsu hadn't already worn off after the fight. We only saw Sasuke undoing C/T.
Lastly for those idiots still going on about Yagura, he was never confirmed to be a perfect jinchuriki. He was only said to be able to control his bijuu, but then again so was KM Naruto, and he wasn't a perfect jinchuriki was he.

Lastly about your idiotic chakra disruption theory, you're missing one important detail. Genjutsu disturbs or disrupts the victims chakra. In order to break the gen jutsu to be broken, there has to be a disruption that isn't coming from the one that cast the gen jutsu, meaning since Sasuke was the one that cast the genjutsu, him taking chakra from the wouldnt break it because it will be part of the gen jutsu. Therefore your whole theory is wrong.

So the Bijuu being constantly squashed by rocks is safely sealed? Tell me more about where you got this from.

That's not a theory, it's a fact. Chakra disruption is chakra disruption. Where it happens and from whom is irrelevant since the chakra is being disrupted. Unless of course, you can prove otherwise instead of speaking from your ass.

edo rinnegan Madara could use Susano. So you are wrong.

No eyes Madara can use Susano. Your point?

 

[Ultimateone]

clearly you don't understand how the whole disruption of chakra works. alsothose panels didn't show sasuke undoing the genjutsu, it showed him undoing the chibaku tensie. remember he had put sakura under a genjutsu also, but she had already come out of it. most likely the bijuu had as well. it's just they were still in the chibaku tensie and just a few moments ago they had just had all their chakra taken from them. also, i don't think when sasuke took the chakra from them it the same thing as what happens when people dispell genjutsu from others. they inject their own chakra into another, it is never said if taking chakra from the person trapped has the same effect. so naruto would still be able to break out of any genjutsu cast by sasuke. also, we already know that sasuke couldn't undo the IT by himself as he originally thought they just needed his eye. not to mention that the forhead eye and sasuke's eye are not the same thing. thus the only genjutsu naruto maybe susceptible to is IT, which sasuke does not have.

 

[Milojko]

So the Bijuu being constantly squashed by rocks is safely sealed? Tell me more about where you got this from.

That's not a theory, it's a fact. Chakra disruption is chakra disruption. Where it happens and from whom is irrelevant since the chakra is being disrupted. Unless of course, you can prove otherwise instead of speaking from your ass.



No eyes Madara can use Susano. Your point?

MY point is rinnegan is rinnegan , every have on special ability but the rest is the saim . If Sasuke can cast genjutsu Madara can too . So dont act smart man you have a chance in this argue because I can say exactly what I want because I don't know english perfect. But if you are not stupid you probably understand what I wanna say.

 

[TrollingSage]

So the Bijuu being constantly squashed by rocks is safely sealed? Tell me more about where you got this from.

That's not a theory, it's a fact. Chakra disruption is chakra disruption. Where it happens and from whom is irrelevant since the chakra is being disrupted. Unless of course, you can prove otherwise instead of speaking from your ass.



No eyes Madara can use Susano. Your point?

You know nothing about the manga don't you?

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This is manga proof gen jutsu disturbs the user's chakra. Karin was trying to figure out if Danzo was using gen jutsu after seeing izanagi. What did she look out for? A disorder in Sasuke's chakra flow. So if gen jutsu already disturbs the user's chakra flow, then to break it, an opposing disturbance must be applied either by the victim or a third party. Sasuke disturbing the bijuus chakra himself wouldnt break his own genjutsu, it would just be a part of it
Oh and Sakura woke up from the genjutsu on her own

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There, I just shat on your entire thread. Now get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich you *****

 

[Apêx1]

MY point is rinnegan is rinnegan , every have on special ability but the rest is the saim . If Sasuke can cast genjutsu Madara can too . So dont act smart man you have a chance in this argue because I can say exactly what I want because I don't know english perfect. But if you are not stupid you probably understand what I wanna say.

No, that's not how it works. Rinnegan isn't Rinnegan, that's wht Sasuke has tomoes and Madara doesn't. That's why Sasuke uses Amateratsu through his Rinnegan and Madara reverts to EMS when utilising the full extent of his EMS. Until you show proof, that conjecture doesn't stand.

 

[Apêx1]

You know nothing about the manga don't you?

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This is manga proof gen jutsu disturbs the user's chakra. Karin was trying to figure out if Danzo was using gen jutsu after seeing izanagi. What did she look out for? A disorder in Sasuke's chakra flow. So if gen jutsu already disturbs the user's chakra flow, then to break it, an opposing disturbance must be applied either by the victim or a third party. Sasuke disturbing the bijuus chakra himself wouldnt break his own genjutsu, it would just be a part of it

Once again, this is all irrelevant to me. Prove tha Sasuke can absorb chakra without disturbing the chakra or stop arguing this as a whole. It's rather clear that inputting or outputting chakra will release you from genjutsu, ie Kai and partner method. Until you bring proof, your point doesn't stand, as it should automatically disrupt the chakra no matter what, rather than your fallacious claim that it's a part of the genjutsu, which is completely unsupported.

 

[MadaraReturns]

Chakra disruption should still work.

no since killer bee was also captured. but thats infinite tsukuyomi casted by madara. but his point is that kurama cant save naruto from all genjutsus

 

[Milojko]

No eyes Madara can use Susano. Your point?[/QUOTE]

here rinegan madara can use susano

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