Sasuke's Rinnegan Genjutsu has no defense except Rinnegan (what's Naruto's answer?)

[VongolaX]

Infinte Tsukyomi genjustu can only be repelled by a rinnegan.

Sasuke's genjustu was never implied to have this condition.

 

[LeSauce]

Oh.
Thank's for the link, I can now answer you.

1. Naruto is not clearly educated in the advancement of breaking out of Genjutsu as Kurama and himself had just become to be a Perfect Jinchuriki.
2. He was always easily-genjutsu'd until now.
3. What information does Naruto have on the Mangekyo Sharingan and Tsukuyomi despite knowing it can harm you?
4. Did Bee fight cautiously to you during the fight? Nah he was going the Solo'Sasuke route there.

You're rationalizing, it's clearly stated that Bee would be done if he got caught. Kishi isn't just going to throw that out there for no reason.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

The denial is real Sasuke can't put Naruto on genjutsu not even Sasukebase would agree with you. I'm going to stop posting since ur already put this thread on your sig LOL hence ur trying to get hot thread

Spoiler

Sauce lost

How wouldn't Sasuke be able to get Naruto? Bee got hit by Sasuke's Genjutsu for a second before the Hachibi saves him.Bee also got hit by Itachi's until the Hachibi saved him,and Yagura was controlled by Tobi along with his Bijuu.

Sasuke was able to catch all 9 Bijuu in Genjutsu with absolute ease,why wouldn't he be able to catch Naruto in one aswell? Tobi got a Perfect Jin with just a tomoe Sharingan While Sasuke has the RinneSharingan.If Sasuke's MS was able to get a perfect jin then why not the RinneSharingan? It most definetely has the power to get Naruto and Yin Kyuubi.

And the battle was a draw - even with the Kyuubi helping Naruto.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Read the OP.

true, forgot about it not requiring eye-contact

Your argument for the disruption of chakra not working still doesn't make sense. Genjutsu functions on manipulating the chakra network of the one being put in it. Sasuke being able to extract the chakra he is already controlling wouldn't break his own genjutsu Lol

 

[V h o]

Yes, the manga evidence fully supports that.

So why didn't Sasuke use this potential one shot technique on Naruto? Surely it would've went in Sasuke's favor following your breakdown of Sasuke's rinnegan genjutsu. Let me guess plot? Because if that is your answer, plot can allow naruto to be immune U_U

 

[adeshina365]

Infinte Tsukyomi genjustu can only be repelled by a rinnegan.

Sasuke's genjustu was never implied to have this condition.

Please read the OP.

If you want me to summarize, in short: Sasuke's statement that Rinnegan genjutsu can only be negated a Rinnegan is confirmed by manga evidences.

 

[adeshina365]

So why didn't Sasuke use this potential one shot technique on Naruto? Surely it would've went in Sasuke's favor following your breakdown of Sasuke's rinnegan genjutsu. Let me guess plot? Because if that is your answer, plot can allow naruto to be immune U_U

Your reasoning here is highly fallacious.

 

[V h o]

Your reasoning here is highly fallacious.

Yet you give zero answer to the question. Whereas a killing intent Sasuke didn't use this only rinnegan breaking genjutsu. So do please answer the question.....

 

[SSStylish]

Great thread

10/10

Will read again

Rep+

 

[riley freeman]

Sasuke can put anyone in his genjustu as no one is immune to it, but someone like naruto would break free in like 1 or 2 seconds because kurama can snap him out of it

 

[xxSAGExx]

Read the thread or GTFO.

Also, it's also a manga fact that Yagura (despite being a perfect Jin) was placed under genjutsu for a long ass time.

What makes you think Yagura was a perfect Jinchuuriki or even a jinchuuriki when Obito was controlling him? If Yagura had the 3 tails at that time then why did Obito had to hunt down the 3 tails with Deidara in Shippuden? Manga said Yagura was a perfect jin but never said he was when Obito was controlling him or do you have any manga scans I must have overlooked? Naruto was placed under genjutsu before being a prefect jinchuuriki so does that pretends to prefect Jinchuurikis? I think not.

As for your thread, your first scan was of IT which even the Sage said takes the Rinnegan and Bijuus chakra to break and Sasuke can't cast that without having both Indra and Ashura chakra like Madara (Hashirama cells did not have Ashura chakra or else Sasuje would have 2 Rinnegan's exactly like Madara) and being the Juubi jin; you can also use the God tree if you don't have the sons chakras. So the first scan is invalid since Sasuke can't even use it.

As for the second scan, if you look at Kurama's eyes before it zooms in on Sasuke's Rinnegan, he's already out of the genjutsu so it doesn't show Sasuke breaking it, only freeing Kurama from CT which seals. For all you know the genjutsu wore off after the Bijuus were sealed but they couldn't do anything after being fully sealed in CT. They could also brak the genjutsu when Sasuke pulled their chakra out since that disrupt their chakra plus the fall is nothing, Kurama took Juubi attacks and Bijuus can take other Bijuus attacks that can change the landscape.

Your thread doesn't really show anything to make us believe the Bijuus can't break Jinchuurikis out of Genjutsus as it was stated genjutsus don't work on them and the only one that does takes the Juubi chakra plus the strongest eye which is near impossible to get. Also all of the Bijuus were looking down so Sasuke turning and glancing at their eyes is not impossible and Sasuke had the power to control Bijuus at MS as he and Itachi said MS give them that power.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Good to know.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Sasuke can put anyone in his genjustu as no one is immune to it, but someone like naruto would break free in like 1 or 2 seconds because kurama can snap him out of it

Really? Sasuke got 8 full powered Bijuu easily,no prob yet a Yin half Kyuubi would be able to withstand him?

And remember when the Kyuubi fell asleep? Well,who could save Naruto then? the Sharingan can see chakra - the Kyuubi was gathering chakra for Naruto throughout the fight which Sasuke knew (he can see the chakra system) which is why he knew when too absorb the Kyuubi's chakra - so when the Kyuubi fell asleep Naruto would be recieving less chakra which Sasuke would notice and in that moment he could use Genjutsu.

 

[Microsword57]

Im trying to understand how no one understands the OP it was written clearly to me. Rinnegan genjutsu can only be repelled by another rinnegan as the manga supports. The methods of breaking genjustu are phyiscal trauma/pain or an external force disrupting the victims chakra. Both were applied to the bijiu while they were under Sasukes Rinnegan genjutsu. Physical trauma/pain being the huge explosion Naruto and Sasuke caused(I think hats the explosion he's referring to)and disrupting their chakra being Sasuke pulling their chakra out to apply to his Susanoo

After all of that the manga still demonstrated that only the rinnegan would free them

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

So why didn't Sasuke use this potential one shot technique on Naruto? Surely it would've went in Sasuke's favor following your breakdown of Sasuke's rinnegan genjutsu. Let me guess plot? Because if that is your answer, plot can allow naruto to be immune U_U

Good god. We have already went over this! Why this didn't happen is simply because mangas aren't real.

Let me explain, when I'm done you will realize how simple this is. This is a manga. More then that, this is the last fight of a 700 chapter long manga. What kind of end is that? One hit Genjutsu to end the series? Kishi has to drag it out.

 

[V h o]

Good god. We have already went over this! Why this didn't happen is simply because mangas aren't real.

Let me explain, when I'm done you will realize how simple this is. This is a manga. More then that, this is the last fight of a 700 chapter long manga. What kind of end is that? One hit Genjutsu to end the series? Kishi has to drag it out.

Yet you don't answer the question either. Infamous one hit jutsu wasn't even attempted on Naruto, yet the distraction Ama was used

 

[ooltafooltanitin]

okay ..... i didnt care to notice this when i was reading the chap's

the reason was that the plot , it was a lot movie like ....... two lowlevel characters (compared to kyuga ) were up against a monster strength character with no hope of defeating it ...... untill they get a help from un-expected source :S

its nice to read some one made effort and got the real details out of it ........ it the details like these that make Naruto magna worth following ...

plus 1 bro ........... nice thread.

 

[Genjin]

People still stress over this? Didn't the manga already explained this?

If you're going to ask me, why didn't Sasuke used it in the fight?

The answer is simple, it has NO EFFECT AT ALL.

It's like Loki vs Iron man.

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[Killah B]

This a good thread

 

[Shanks]

Brilliant Thread there bro i guess Kishi wanted equal field between Naruto and Sasuke i guess.