Sasuke's Rinnegan Genjutsu has no defense except Rinnegan (what's Naruto's answer?)

[LeSauce]

I'm stating an opinion on a basis of incomplete information?
Bruh what do you think this theory is Lol?

You're trying to tell us that you're more informative on Rinnegan genjutsu then what is stated in the manga. You claimed that Yagura, a perfect Jinchuriki was taken in by superior genjutsu, was totally incorrect. Yaguya was controlled but Kishi gave us no correct insight on how he was able to do so leaving us with nothing but plot-holes as Jinchuriki can break from genjutsu.

Also you never answered my last question >O >





Can you provide a scan as I have not seen that yet? Also when was Naruto an expert on Tsukuyomi and genjutsu lol?

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Naruto not knowing about it? He knows enough to know that if they got hit they were done.

 

[NukaCola]

The fight is over, let it go.

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Naruto not knowing about it? He knows enough to know that if they got hit they were done.

Naruto is not a perfect jin in that scan.

 

[Transcendence]

You completely missed the point....

The Bijuu partner breaks the Jin out of the genjutsu in the exact same manner that external forces do. By disrupting the chakra of victim and by inflicting trauma (i.e stabbing oneself).

As I shown in the OP. No matter how extreme the trauma is, Sasuke's genjutsu doesn't waver in the slightest. The Bijuu method is no longer viable.

So let me get this straight...

You're saying because Sasuke is immune to IT, that his Genjutsu follows the same suit in being uncounterable via the partner method? That's basically like saying that Sasuke's 3T Genjutsu is greater than Itachi's Tsukuyomi just because he resisted it.

 

[adeshina365]

3. If Naruto can't counter his genjutsu, he would've used it.

This logic simply doesn't hold water. There have been many fights where character X should have been able to do action Y, but that doesn't happen since Kishimoto is primarily trying to make the manga interesting.

 

[LeSauce]

You completely missed the point....

The Bijuu partner breaks the Jin out of the genjutsu in the exact same manner that external forces do. By disrupting the chakra of victim and by inflicting trauma (i.e stabbing oneself).

As I shown in the OP. No matter how extreme the trauma is, Sasuke's genjutsu doesn't waver in the slightest. The Bijuu method is no longer viable.

What about Madara? Kyuubi took a lot of damage it looks like.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

I'm stating an opinion on a basis of incomplete information?
Bruh what do you think this theory is Lol?

You're trying to tell us that you're more informative on Rinnegan genjutsu then what is stated in the manga. You claimed that Yagura, a perfect Jinchuriki was taken in by superior genjutsu, was totally incorrect. Yaguya was controlled but Kishi gave us no correct insight on how he was able to do so leaving us with nothing but plot-holes as Jinchuriki can break from genjutsu.

Also you never answered my last question >O >





Can you provide a scan as I have not seen that yet? Also when was Naruto an expert on Tsukuyomi and genjutsu lol?

Kisame mentioned the Sharingan was used to control Yagura.

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[lndra]

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Naruto not knowing about it? He knows enough to know that if they got hit they were done.

Oh.
Thank's for the link, I can now answer you.

1. Naruto is not clearly educated in the advancement of breaking out of Genjutsu as Kurama and himself had just become to be a Perfect Jinchuriki.
2. He was always easily-genjutsu'd until now.
3. What information does Naruto have on the Mangekyo Sharingan and Tsukuyomi despite knowing it can harm you?
4. Did Bee fight cautiously to you during the fight? Nah he was going the Solo'Sasuke route there.

 

[adeshina365]

So let me get this straight...

You're saying because Sasuke is immune to IT, that his Genjutsu follows the same suit in being uncounterable via the partner method? That's basically like saying that Sasuke's 3T Genjutsu is greater than Itachi's Tsukuyomi just because he resisted it.

You still don't get it...my explanation is flying over your head.

I'm saying that the basis of the Bijuu method is chakra disruption, therefore this method is ineffective against any genjutsu in which chakra disruption/trauma infliction isn't sufficient.

I've established in the OP that even under the most extreme of trauma, Sasuke's genjutsu doesn't waver. Hence, the Bijuu method is no longer viable..

 

[adeshina365]

What about Madara? Kyuubi took a lot of damage it looks like.

Kurama was protected and Hashirama was then able to easily negate the Genjutsu.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Naruto can also avoid direct eye contact and still fight via sage-mode sensing

 

[lndra]

Kisame mentioned the Sharingan was used to control Yagura.

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I agree Yagura was controlled with the Sharingan. However it was never explained on HOW it was possible despite Kishimoto stating that Perfect Jinchuriki's can break themselves out of genjutsu = Meaning, plot hole jutsu in action.

Anyway, if Yugara had such a good relationship with Isobu then the tailed beast should of woken himself up.

 

[V h o]

So you're saying Sasuke's rinnegan genjutsu is equal to IT.....fascinating

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Nice thread, but your explanation is lacking. Yes, Rin'negan Genjutsu (which is just Sharingan Genjutsu amplified by the Rin'negan) is wide in scope, but your examples don't prove your point. We already know Bijuu can be controlled by Genjutsu. They were completely helpless and Sasuke only has to focus on one entity (the Bijuu) in particular. When trying to put a Jinchuriki into Genjutsu, he would not only have to put the Jin into Genjutsu, but also the Bijuu, but by the time he attempts the second, it gives more than enough time for the Bijuu to break its partner out.

The Kyuubi went to sleep.The Sharingan can see chakra.The Kyuubi was gathering chakra most of the battle,so once Sasuke sees Naruto's chakrs flowing less he will know the Kyuubi isn't gathering more than he could jse Genjutsu on Naruto while the Kyuubi was sleeping.

I agree Yagura was controlled with the Sharingan. However it was never explained on HOW it was possible despite Kishimoto stating that Perfect Jinchuriki's can break themselves out of genjutsu = Meaning, plot hole jutsu in action.

Anyway, if Yugara had such a good relationship with Isobu then the tailed beast should of woken himself up.

Based on the fact that Tobi was able go control a perfect Jin shows that if a Genjutsu is powerful enough,it can effect the Bijuu inside the Jin.

Perfect Jins were only able to break out of Genjutsu because the Bijuu would save them - Bee was effectes by Sasuke's MS Genjutsu for a second - Tobi's was strong enough to control Yagura and the 3 tails.

1. The manga is over yet ur jimmies are still rustled, stay rustled.

2. Sasuke lost.

3. If Naruto can't counter his genjutsu, he would've used it.

4. Sakura didn't suffer anything from his genjutsu and cameback in full strength meanwhile Itachi soloed Kakashi for life with genjutsu

5. Stay rustled

It was a draw even with the Kyuubi helping Naruto

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

This logic simply doesn't hold water. There have been many fights where character X should have been able to do action Y, but that doesn't happen since Kishimoto is primarily trying to make the manga interesting.

The denial is real Sasuke can't put Naruto on genjutsu not even Sasukebase would agree with you. I'm going to stop posting since ur already put this thread on your sig LOL hence ur trying to get hot thread

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Sauce lost

 

[adeshina365]

Naruto can also avoid direct eye contact and still fight via sage-mode sensing

Read the OP.

 

[adeshina365]

The denial is real Sasuke can't put Naruto on genjutsu not even Sasukebase would agree with you. I'm going to stop posting since ur already put this thread on your sig LOL hence ur trying to get hot thread

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Sauce lost

Produce your proof or leave.

 

[adeshina365]

So you're saying Sasuke's rinnegan genjutsu is equal to IT.....fascinating

I actually haven't stated that...nor does the OP imply that if you employ critical thinking.

 

[V h o]

I actually haven't stated that...nor does the OP imply that if you employ critical thinking.

So you're basically saying no one can counter sasuke's genjutsu bar a rinnegan, yes?

 

[Stxluciferr]

Idk it just seems like some people are upset because they can't come up with proof

 

[adeshina365]

So you're basically saying no one can counter sasuke's genjutsu bar a rinnegan, yes?

Yes, the manga evidence fully supports that.