Sasuke's Rinnegan Genjutsu has no defense except Rinnegan (what's Naruto's answer?)

[Naruto X Hunter]

Epic post.I was thinking something similar earlier - if Sasuke can get 9 Fully transformed Bijuu in Genjutsu at the same time with absolute ease,then how come he didn't use Genjutsu on Naruto? With the 3 Tomoe Sharingan he was able to go into Naruto's subconscoius and suppress the Yang Kyuubi,so the 6 tomoe RinneSharingan should be able to do alot better and easily trap Naruto and the Yin Kyuubi in Genjutsu.

Yet Sasuke deosn't use Genjutsu at all.

Tell me again when you wrote "Naruto" lol?

Jinchuriki are resistant to all forms of genjutsu, until that's proven in the Manga, then I'll believe it.

I won't read your OP because it's clearly going to Sasuke's favor when you and I both know anything Naruto can do, Sasuke can equal it, and vice versa. Trying to write an argument on which has a upper-hand than the other is useless.

Also. Naruto could fight Sasuke with his eyes closed, or did you forget his sensing prowess? Anyway, good day mate.

Indra,you're on the wrong team - Sasuke's your guy.And Naruto would have been affected by IT if he left Sasuke's Susano'o while the Moon was shining.That's clear.

 

[adeshina365]

Does taking away chakra from the beasts counts as chakra disruption?

On top of having their chakra yanked out of them, they also were in the epicenter of the largest explosion in the entire series. They got ****ed up badly.

 

[lndra]

I'm warning you, read the OP or GTFO.

Perfect Jin were said to be resistant because their Bijuu partner could disrupt their chakra. As I've shown in the OP, even the most extreme traumas are ineffective against Rinnegan genjutsu. The Bijuu partner method simply doesn't hold weight in this situation.

Please. You and I both know the infinite Tsukuyomi is not JUST a genjutsu affected by the eyes, nevertheless we had not seen its affects on a Jinchuriki like Naruto.

Sasuke's genjutsu is created from Yin chakra; meaning Nothingness just like any genjutsu.

Are you really trying to explain that a genjutsu cannot be broken by a Jinchuriki despite how powerful the doujutsu may appear to be? In the end it's all an illusion ready to be broken by reality Lol

There's never been any Rinnegan genjutsu before, so when they said that it didn't apply to it. Just like it doesn't apply to Itachi's Tsukiyomi.

There's never been a Rinnegan genjutsu before? True words have never been spoken.

But please tell me when a genjutsu can affect multiple bodies of chakra within one central hub.

 

[adeshina365]

"lndra", I'm warning you, answer me or GTFO.

The chakra disruption method has been shown to be ineffective against Sasuke's Rinnegan genjutsu. Until you can prove that Naruto has another means of getting out....

..do me a favor and GTFO.

 

[LeSauce]

Please. You and I both know the infinite Tsukuyomi is not JUST a genjutsu affected by the eyes, nevertheless we had not seen its affects on a Jinchuriki like Naruto.

Sasuke's genjutsu is created from Yin chakra; meaning Nothingness just like any genjutsu.

Are you really trying to explain that a genjutsu cannot be broken by a Jinchuriki despite how powerful the doujutsu may appear to be? In the end it's all an illusion ready to be broken by reality Lol




There's never been a Rinnegan genjutsu before? True words have never been spoken.

But please tell me when a genjutsu can affect multiple bodies of chakra within one central hub.

My point is that the Jinchuuriki thing was already proven false when Itachi got Tsukiyomi. They can't break out of it, so that means there are genjutsu of which they can do nothing about.

 

[Kakooli]

Proof that Sasuke wanted to defeat Naruto HIS way rather than the EASY way. Nobody can counter this thread lol.

 

[lndra]

"lndra", I'm warning you, answer me or GTFO.

The chakra disruption method has been shown to be ineffective against Sasuke's Rinnegan genjutsu. Until you can prove that Naruto has another means of getting out....

..do me a favor and GTFO.

Seems like when someone tests you're theory, you're jimmies are getting rustled? No one has to read the OP when the title says all.

I'm really disappointed in Sasuke fans when they can't accept they're equal.

My point is that the Jinchuuriki thing was already proven false when Itachi got Tsukiyomi. They can't break out of it, so that means there are genjutsu of which they can do nothing about.

The only way for a Jinchuriki to get hit by a genjutsu and for it to stay active, is if the Bijuu itself were hit at the same time, or prior.

The sad thing is we never got to see Itachi use Tsukuyomi on a Jinchuriki.

 

[adeshina365]

Seems like when someone tests you're theory, you're jimmies are getting rustled? No one has to read the OP when the title says all.

I'm really disappointed in Sasuke fans when they can't accept they're equal.

You're no testing my OP for shit. You're simply spouting conjecture.

 

[LeSauce]

Seems like when someone tests you're theory, you're jimmies are getting rustled? No one has to read the OP when the title says all.

I'm really disappointed in Sasuke fans when they can't accept they're equal.




The only way for a Jinchuriki to get hit by a genjutsu and for it to stay active, is if the Bijuu itself were hit at the same time, or prior.

The sad thing is we never got to see Itachi use Tsukuyomi on a Jinchuriki.

We still know what would happen though, proven by Naruto when he specifically states that if either him or Killer B are hit, it's over.

 

[lndra]

You're no testing my OP for shit. You're simply spouting conjecture.

I'm stating an opinion on a basis of incomplete information?
Bruh what do you think this theory is Lol?

You're trying to tell us that you're more informative on Rinnegan genjutsu then what is stated in the manga. You claimed that Yagura, a perfect Jinchuriki was taken in by superior genjutsu, was totally incorrect. Yaguya was controlled but Kishi gave us no correct insight on how he was able to do so leaving us with nothing but plot-holes as Jinchuriki can break from genjutsu.

Also you never answered my last question >O >

We still know what would happen though, proven by Naruto when he specifically states that if either him or Killer B are hit, it's over.

Can you provide a scan as I have not seen that yet? Also when was Naruto an expert on Tsukuyomi and genjutsu lol?

 

[adeshina365]

No one has any manga evidence to disprove the OP

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

Is OP saying that Sasuke's genjutsu is on par with IT ? LOL

Sauce genjutsu is easily counterable by Naruto, the only genjutsu that Naruto cant counter is IT bye now

 

[adeshina365]

Is OP saying that Sasuke's genjutsu is on par with IT ? LOL

Sauce genjutsu is easily counterable by Naruto, the only genjutsu that Naruto cant counter is IT bye now

1. Textbook strawman argument.

2. Produce your proof or GTFO.

 

[lndra]

There he goes ignoring the real debate, cause he know's the logic is false in his own demented opinions of large gathered plot-holes to use as evidence.

If anything this shows you can only do something, when someone has failed to correct themselves. What a man you are.

 

[Transcendence]

Nice thread, but your explanation is lacking. Yes, Rin'negan Genjutsu (which is just Sharingan Genjutsu amplified by the Rin'negan) is wide in scope, but your examples don't prove your point. We already know Bijuu can be controlled by Genjutsu. They were completely helpless and Sasuke only has to focus on one entity (the Bijuu) in particular. When trying to put a Jinchuriki into Genjutsu, he would not only have to put the Jin into Genjutsu, but also the Bijuu, but by the time he attempts the second, it gives more than enough time for the Bijuu to break its partner out.

 

[adeshina365]

Indra, I'm the one arguing based off manga facts....produce your proof bro.

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

1. Textbook strawman argument.

2. Produce your proof or GTFO.

1. The manga is over yet ur jimmies are still rustled, stay rustled.

2. Sasuke lost.

3. If Naruto can't counter his genjutsu, he would've used it.

4. Sakura didn't suffer anything from his genjutsu and cameback in full strength meanwhile Itachi soloed Kakashi for life with genjutsu

5. Stay rustled

 

[lndra]

Indra, I'm the one arguing based off manga facts....produce your proof bro.

You're whole thread is based off plot-holes and unanswered questions in a finished manga, yet you're still talking rubbish.

Go see some sunlight Lol

 

[Kamui Sama]

Mugen tsukuyomi can only be resisted by rinnegan, that doesn't mean the chakra disruption method will not work on Naruto when against Sasuke's genjutsu

Sasuke was able to resist Itachi's tsukuyomi with 3t sharingan, does that mean Sasuke's 3t genjutsu = Tsukuyomi? Nope lol

 

[adeshina365]

Nice thread, but your explanation is lacking. Yes, Rin'negan Genjutsu (which is just Sharingan Genjutsu amplified by the Rin'negan) is wide in scope, but your examples don't prove your point. We already know Bijuu can be controlled by Genjutsu. They were completely helpless and Sasuke only has to focus on one entity (the Bijuu) in particular. When trying to put a Jinchuriki into Genjutsu, he would not only have to put the Jin into Genjutsu, but also the Bijuu, but by the time he attempts the second, it gives more than enough time for the Bijuu to break its partner out.

You completely missed the point....

The Bijuu partner breaks the Jin out of the genjutsu in the exact same manner that external forces do. By disrupting the chakra of victim and by inflicting trauma (i.e stabbing oneself).

As I shown in the OP. No matter how extreme the trauma is, Sasuke's genjutsu doesn't waver in the slightest. The Bijuu method is no longer viable.