The Answer

[Venomous Cobra]

True, IT was actually good. And Kishi realized this it seems, which is why he retconned IT into turning people into Zetsus

Yup excatly kishi didn't realize how "good" it was

 

[SSStylish]

True, IT was actually good. And Kishi realized this it seems, which is why he retconned IT into turning people into Zetsus

Yeah, IT was like the best solution ever. If I'd be in the NV, I would've fought for Madaras goal. Too bad Kishi did that Zetsu shi*.

 

[CopyCatBlueMage]

Sasukes was being an immortal common enemy of mankind, so the world would have no other choice but to unite and stop fighting eachother. Sasukes answer is still pretty good imo and would as everyone should know work out.

Please tell me one time in History where an evil dictator united the world in peace? Hitler created more wars. I mean, Satan is supposed to be the common enemy of mankind, IRL, and we still kill each other every day. To answer your question: Not having a supreme evil 'common enemy' is better than having one. If you have someone like that, then there will be guaranteed fighting and no guarantee that the rest of the world will unite. Take this forum for example. There are almost if as many Sausuke devotees as there are for Naruto. So if half the world follows Sauske and the other Naruto, then the conflict continues.

Contrarily, if Saus and Nar cooperate, then you have the two most powerful people on the planet working together and from the same village. Naruto wants democracy and cooperation to guide humanity whereas Sauske wants to use fear and hatred. There is no way to know how long peace will last if they work together. But the length of peace with Sauske as world enemy is guaranteed to be 0.0 seconds.

Also, idioms are not the same things as facts. (You sig and quote)

 

[staticdash22]

It's pretty obvious imo. Naruto realizes n ow that the fairy tail peace is impossible, but things can certainly change for the better. One of the hints, was the focus on cooperation. Between different people, nations, etc. The input of the people, instead of singular people, who may or may not be corrupted. So, i think the answer is a democracy. When naruto told sasuke, that he needs as many people alive as possible to make his plan work. Peace treaty between nations was already hinted at, when the five kage fought madara.

 

[SSStylish]

You do realize that this is a manga and not the real world, its basically a motivational story about never giving up.

If Kishi was inclined, he could end it with Naruto brought peace to the world by giving everyone all the Ramen they could ever eat.

I do. I just want a "realistic" solution. As I said, Sasukes was a good one and would've saved a lot of lifes.

 

[CopyCatBlueMage]

Yeah, IT was like the best solution ever. If I'd be in the NV, I would've fought for Madaras goal. Too bad Kishi did that Zetsu shi*.

I can't lie. I thought IT was a good idea too. I'm all for the Matrix. Plug me in!

 

[Tennis Robot]

I do. I just want a "realistic" solution. As I said, Sasukes was a good one and would've saved a lot of lifes.

Sasuke's is infinitely less realistic than Naruto's. No one gives a shit about Sasuke. They could just ignore him. He would have to make everyone in the world live in fear of him killing them if he wanted to achieve peace that way.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Everyone is selfish. No matter what they do, in the end, they do what they want to for themselves. And if you are not going to bother to try to consider other people's thoughts, you shouldn't expect anything more from them in return. You might as well live entirely on your own.

You didn't notice that I said "stranger" so I am not gonna be alone.and anyway are you trying to say that if I did something good people will do the same for me? Well sorry it don't work that way at least not here but anyway I respect the fact that you trying to understand people but no I would never bother doing something that has no chance of happening

 

[saw2097]

I do. I just want a "realistic" solution. As I said, Sasukes was a good one and would've saved a lot of lifes.

Sasuke's solution wasn't realistic either, a single dictator ruling and making everyone hate him never works, history has shown that.

Napolean, Hitler, and every other take over the world guy, in fact the fallout usually leads to more deaths.

Sasuke's little immortality thing was his ego talking, even Kaguya and the Sage couldn't accomplish that.

There is simply no such thing as a realistic way to peace, this manga is simply about never giving up on the world and a motivational story.

I would not be surprised if the manga doesn't go any further into how peace is brought, its simply shown that the nations are getting along in the end.

 

[Tennis Robot]

You didn't notice that I said "stranger" so I am not gonna be alone.and anyway are you trying to say that if I did something good people will do the same for me? Well sorry it don't work that way at least not here but anyway I respect the fact that you trying to understand people but no I would never bother doing something that has no chance of happening

It does work that way. You just have to be patient. And you can't entitle yourself to anything. You deserve whatever it is you get. And there is a good chance that it could happen, if everyone would just try. If not, I can do it all for them. And explain everyone to everyone else. Or, at least, as many people as I can reach.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Please tell me one time in History where an evil dictator united the world in peace? Hitler created more wars. I mean, Satan is supposed to be the common enemy of mankind, IRL, and we still kill each other every day. To answer your question: Not having a supreme evil 'common enemy' is better than having one. If you have someone like that, then there will be guaranteed fighting and no guarantee that the rest of the world will unite. Take this forum for example. There are almost if as many Sausuke devotees as there are for Naruto. So if half the world follows Sauske and the other Naruto, then the conflict continues.

Contrarily, if Saus and Nar cooperate, then you have the two most powerful people on the planet working together and from the same village. Naruto wants democracy and cooperation to guide humanity whereas Sauske wants to use fear and hatred. There is no way to know how long peace will last if they work together. But the length of peace with Sauske as world enemy is guaranteed to be 0.0 seconds.

Also, idioms are not the same things as facts. (You sig and quote)

Actually democracy failed as a world system , it won't work, dictatorship is failure as well , in my opinion there's no point of trying to reach"perfection" or "peace" it will always and forever lead to disagreement

 

[SSStylish]

Please tell me one time in History where an evil dictator united the world in peace? Hitler created more wars. I mean, Satan is supposed to be the common enemy of mankind, IRL, and we still kill each other every day. To answer your question: Not having a supreme evil 'common enemy' is better than having one. If you have someone like that, then there will be guaranteed fighting and no guarantee that the rest of the world will unite. Take this forum for example. There are almost if as many Sausuke devotees as there are for Naruto. So if half the world follows Sauske and the other Naruto, then the conflict continues.

Contrarily, if Saus and Nar cooperate, then you have the two most powerful people on the planet working together and from the same village. Naruto wants democracy and cooperation to guide humanity whereas Sauske wants to use fear and hatred. There is no way to know how long peace will last if they work together. But the length of peace with Sauske as world enemy is guaranteed to be 0.0 seconds.

Also, idioms are not the same things as facts. (You sig and quote)

I call BS on that. Sasuke can't be compared to just a dictator in the NV. He is power wise a god. No one could stop/kill him if Naruto would've been killed by him. Satan is just a religious figure, nothing that really lives and rules, just something some people believe in.

Oh and btw. Hitler wasn't starting the war, he even wanted to prevent it. Just so you know.

 

[saw2097]

Actually democracy failed as a world system , it won't work, dictatorship is failure as well , in my opinion there's no point of trying to reach"perfection" or "peace" it will always and forever lead to disagreement

Democracy failed?

Again of the countries that are world powers, what is the percentage that are democracies?

US is a democracy and everyone just wants to get into that country, that why we have so many illegal immigrants trying to get into this country.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Democracy failed?

Again of the countries that are world powers, what is the percentage that are democracies?

US is a democracy and everyone just wants to get into that country, that why we have so many illegal immigrants trying to get into this country.

The US isn't anywhere near what it could be. Nor is any other country, for that matter.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

It does work that way. You just have to be patient. And you can't entitle yourself to anything. You deserve whatever it is you get. And there is a good chance that it could happen, if everyone would just try. If not, I can do it all for them. And explain everyone to everyone else. Or, at least, as many people as I can reach.

So you're telling that you aren't going to break if someone takes advantage of your goal? You're not gonna hate someone if he destroys your goal and send you back to point 1 ? You're not gonna break even if someone gets your family or loved ones some serious trouble? You're not gonna break if the most trusful person in your life tells you that your goal is silly? Fair enough

I would like to see how would that trun out

 

[Tennis Robot]

So you're telling that you aren't going to break if someone takes advantage of your goal? You're not gonna hate someone if he destroys your goal and send you back to point 1 ? You're not gonna break even if someone gets your family or loved ones some serious trouble? You're not gonna break if the most trusful person in your life tells you that your goal is silly? Fair enough

I would like to see how would that trun out

Not at all. Not until I understand them. I have done it many times now. And it has never failed. I have no self-entitlement. I was...fortunate to grow up the way I did.

And if by "break" you mean get mad, that will never happen. I haven't been mad at anyone other than myself in years; long before I adopted this mentality.

 

[saw2097]

The US isn't anywhere near what it could be. Nor is any other country, for that matter.

Its about as close as you can get, no government will be perfect but its pretty good.

But the majority of countries that people want to go are all democracies, as are the majority of world powers.

While dictatorships comprise mostly of third world countries with a few exceptions.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Democracy failed?

Again of the countries that are world powers, what is the percentage that are democracies?

US is a democracy and everyone just wants to get into that country, that why we have so many illegal immigrants trying to get into this country.

US ?democracy? Pffffd you do realize that we're just bunch of bullies right?do some research and come back again bruh , I am not even going to argue with you with your current knowledge

 

[SSStylish]

Sasuke's is infinitely less realistic than Naruto's. No one gives a shit about Sasuke. They could just ignore him. He would have to make everyone in the world live in fear of him killing them if he wanted to achieve peace that way.

No one gives a shit about him? What does that have to do with anything? No, they wouldn't be able to ignore him. He'd be stronger than everyone else and power wise unstopable. As I said, true peace can't be achieved, only false one. His way would prevent wars and therefore save a lot of lifes.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Not at all. Not until I understand them. I have done it many times now. And it has never failed. I have no self-entitlement. I was...fortunate to grow up the way I did.

And if by "break" you mean get mad, that will never happen. I haven't been mad at anyone other than myself in years; long before I adopted this mentality.

Aright fair enough