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Its about as close as you can get, no government will be perfect but its pretty good.

But the majority of countries that people want to go are all democracies, as are the majority of world powers.

While dictatorships comprise mostly of third world countries with a few exceptions.

No it isn't. And it doesn't even have anything to do with democracies or dictatorships.

No one gives a shit about him? What does that have to do with anything? No, they wouldn't be able to ignore him. He'd be stronger than everyone else and power wise unstopable. As I said, true peace can't be achieved, only false one. His way would prevent wars and therefore save a lot of lifes.

What could he do with that power? No one would have any interest in him since Naruto would be dead. Would he just kill every person in the world?

Aright fair enough

What does that mean?
 

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Not at all. Not until I understand them. I have done it many times now. And it has never failed. I have no self-entitlement. I was...fortunate to grow up the way I did. :)

And if by "break" you mean get mad, that will never happen. I haven't been mad at anyone other than myself in years; long before I adopted this mentality.

Sry to say that, but your mentality sounds weak and illogical. Never getting mad and only being angry at yourself? Da fuq?
 

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No it isn't. And it doesn't even have anything to do with democracies or dictatorships.



What could he do with that power? No one would have any interest in him since Naruto would be dead. Would he just kill every person in the world?



What does that mean?

It means that you won the argument but before that can please answer this question

If you die and people understood each other because of you, would you consider that as your own accomplishment?
 

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Sry to say that, but your mentality sounds weak and illogical. Never getting mad and only being angry at yourself? Da fuq?

To quote one of the toughest, most intimidating men I know:
"Don't confuse emotional with weak; I'll slit your throat with tears pouring down my cheek"

I was like you for a long time too. Turns out that the weak person is the one who internalizes everything, who prevents themselves from showing any emotion. I know you probably won’t do it, but I implore you to consider this. I can help you figure it out if you want me to :) I wouldn't be able to forgive myself if I just let you go...
 

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What could he do with that power? No one would have any interest in him since Naruto would be dead. Would he just kill every person in the world?

Do you honestly believe that mankind will just let themselves get killed and not give a crap about it? They would come to the conclusion that Sasuke is so strong, that they would have to unite. Humans fight for survival and against "the enemy". It's jsut the way people are. No one would just not give a shit about that one dude, that kills you if you "misbehave".
 

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To quote one of the toughest, most intimidating men I know:
"Don't confuse emotional with weak; I'll slit your throat with tears pouring down my cheek"

I was like you for a long time too. Turns out that the weak person is the one who internalizes everything, who prevents themselves from showing any emotion. I know you probably won’t do it, but I implore you to consider this. I can help you figure it out if you want me to :) I wouldn't be able to forgive myself if I just let you go...

Getting mad at someone other than yourself for a good reason is part of being emotional and a stable human being.
 

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It means that you won the argument but before that can please answer this question
If you die and people understood each other because of you, would you consider that as your own accomplishment?

No. Not outwardly, anyway. What's that quote again? "I can lead you to the river, but I cannot make you drink the water" or something like that. I would probably think to myself that I had catalyzed this, and I would definitely want to be recognized for it, but I would never ask for recognition or remind people that I was the one who started it. I just want to see if I’m really as bad a person as I have always been told I am. And I feel like I am kind of obligated to try to help, since I know how to do it and I also know that I won’t **** up.

Getting mad at someone other than yourself for a good reason is part of being emotional and a stable human being.

What good reason is there? Who gave you the right to get mad at anyone else for living their life? They did what they did for a reason, and if you knew that reason, you wouldn't be able to be mad at them. People can obviously do things that I would not be able to allow. If someone broke into my house, for example, I would probably try to incapacitate them and then, instead of calling the police, I would ask them to tell me about their life. After that, I would be able to make the best decision about what to do with them.
 
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No. Not outwardly, anyway. What's that quote again? "I can lead you to the river, but I cannot make you drink the water" or something like that. I would probably think to myself that I had catalyzed this, and I would definitely want to be recognized for it, but I would never ask for recognition or remind people that I was the one who started it. I just want to see if I’m really as bad a person as I have always been told I am. And I feel like I am kind of obligated to try to help, since I know how to do it and I also know that I won’t **** up.

"I won't ask for recognition" , alright with this our argument end
 

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Even if they understood each other ..... it will be just for a period of time .
 

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It took western civilization 1,000 years to recover from the implosion of Rome, and another 500 years to achieve this level of peacefulness and coexistance.

Things have been progressing on a much longer time line then y'all are giving it credit for.

If you look at NV it has taken like how many thousands of years to overcome one conflict.

If circumstances aren't in your favor during your lifetime then you build circumstances that will help produce them in 300 years.

That's what the Sage did, that's what Naruto is doing, that's what Sasuke is doing.

Working together instead of conflicting against one another.

Does it have pragmatic application in terms of managing empire, economy and citizenry, nope, probably not.

However, Naruto as a story points to idealistic goals to work towards, over centuries and generations.

Sh*t takes time, unfortunately.

To say that humanity will always be so and so or such and such means that you haven't read how different we used to behave towards one another...

Give hope a chance, behave better in your immediate surrounding and don't program for the whole planet, just your community and stuff will improve for you, at least a little.
 

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No. Not outwardly, anyway. What's that quote again? "I can lead you to the river, but I cannot make you drink the water" or something like that. I would probably think to myself that I had catalyzed this, and I would definitely want to be recognized for it, but I would never ask for recognition or remind people that I was the one who started it. I just want to see if I’m really as bad a person as I have always been told I am. And I feel like I am kind of obligated to try to help, since I know how to do it and I also know that I won’t **** up.



What good reason is there? Who gave you the right to get mad at anyone else for living their life? They did what they did for a reason, and if you knew that reason, you wouldn't be able to be mad at them. People can obviously do things that I would not be able to allow. If someone broke into my house, for example, I would probably try to incapacitate them and then, instead of calling the police, I would ask them to tell me about their life. After that, I would be able to make the best decision about what to do with them.

That's irrational and almost unhuman. Who gave you the right to breathe? That's right, no one but yourself. It's not against the law. Being mad at someone for a good reason ist not against the law as well. It is just the way most people are. Some one pisses you off, you get mad at them and not yourself.

You would be trying to talk to a guy that just tryed to rob you? Again, that's irrational and also very dangerous. He could beat you up pretty badly or even kill you. Calling the police would be the best option.
 
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Oh and btw. Hitler wasn't starting the war, he even wanted to prevent it. Just so you know.

So I was comparing Sauske's idea more to Satan than Hitler, but its a similar idea.

And Hitler was a lying manipulative pyscho. He was absolutely trying to start wars. He wanted to kill every Jewish person in the world. His "perfect humanity" idea was ****ed up propaganda to placate an under informed public that needed something to believe in.
 

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That's irrational and almost unhuman. Who gave you the right to breathe? That's right, no one but yourself. It's not against the law. Being mad at someone for a good reason ist not against the law as well. It is just the way most people are. Some one pisses you off, you get mad at them and not yourself.

You would be trying to talk to a guy that just tryed to rob you? Again, that's irrational and also very dangerous. He could beat you up pretty badly or even kill you. Calling the police would be the best option.

I don't care. I can't allow myself to do that. Because I know that there are reasons why people are who they are. Honestly, I would be sad knowing that someone's life had gone in a way that led them to resort to robbery. :(

And the right to breathe is different. We are given life. But we have the choice to care about others or not.
 

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So I was comparing Sauske's idea more to Satan than Hitler, but its a similar idea.

And Hitler was a lying manipulative pyscho. He was absolutely trying to start wars. He wanted to kill every Jewish person in the world. His "perfect humanity" idea was ****ed up propaganda to placate an under informed public that needed something to believe in.

No one denies the fact that Hitler was messed up. But you are wrong, he didn't start the war, he tryed to prevent it. You can actually look it up.

The difference is that Satan is not a person we can see or feel. Only believe in. Sasuke in the NV would be something that you could see and feel.
 

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I can't allow myself to knowingly do anything that would cause anyone else pain.
 

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I don't care. I can't allow myself to do that. Because I know that there are reasons why people are who they are. Honestly, I would be sad knowing that someone's life had gone in a way that led them to resort to robbery. :(

And the right to breathe is different. We are given life. But we have the choice to care about others or not.

Yes, you were "given" this life. So don't waste it by acting irrational and getting into dangerous stuff like that.

Also you have to look at the bigger picture. Most people aren't the way you are. They get mad at people for pissing them off for example.
 

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Yes, you were "given" this life. So don't waste it by acting irrational and getting into dangerous stuff like that.

Also you have to look at the bigger picture. Most people aren't the way you are. They get mad at people for pissing them off for example.

I am looking at the bigger picture. I'm not nice at all. I have never been called nice. And I'm not wasting my life. I have already seen myself preventing/alleviating many people's pain. And I have seen them make an effort to become the same way.
 
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