[Question] What diff would Zoro defeat Drugs Hordy underwater?

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How is Hody stronger? because he was introduced later and fought a progressed Luffy? People use this argument all the time with neglecting the fact characters have to seem stronger once the lead powers up as well. That doesn't mean they could beat an earlier villain. Croc got beat by pre-skip Luffy yet he could beat Moriah. It's not just OP either Zabuza lost to Kakashi but Zabuza could have beaten some of the Akatsuki.

Back to my point though how is Hody stronger than Arlong? In the flashbacks Arlong was stronger, the only way/reason Hody would be stronger is he had more time to develop, which is an unfair comparison. If you took Arlong and Hody at the same point in time Arlong would be stronger.
 

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Did everybody forget that Hody put Zoro in a cage after their underwater fight ?

Zoro couldn't hold his breath any longer and was able to cut him once, it was not enough to take out base hody and he retaliated.

I can see him winning on land, but underwater is Hody's domain.

Even Luffy didn't beat Hody underwater, he needed to get to the deck of Noah to finish the fight. And Luffy used the speed of fishmen to move around in the water, Zoro would be a sitting duck.

Under water Zoro stands no chance, on the land he defeats him comfortably.
Lmaoo XD^^^^ what a joke of a post I hope others dont take him seriously U_U.....
 

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Same diff as Luffy, and that's no indication of him being stronger.

He was so under them that they both defeat him at the lowest possible diff.
 

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How is Hody stronger? because he was introduced later and fought a progressed Luffy? People use this argument all the time with neglecting the fact characters have to seem stronger once the lead powers up as well. That doesn't mean they could beat an earlier villain. Croc got beat by pre-skip Luffy yet he could beat Moriah. It's not just OP either Zabuza lost to Kakashi but Zabuza could have beaten some of the Akatsuki.

Back to my point though how is Hody stronger than Arlong? In the flashbacks Arlong was stronger, the only way/reason Hody would be stronger is he had more time to develop, which is an unfair comparison. If you took Arlong and Hody at the same point in time Arlong would be stronger.
Arlong very well could've become stronger than Hody at this point in time if Luffy didn't stop him in East Blue, Maybe he even did after that and Hody also used a lot of fake power which costed him his youth.

But still, you can't say that Arlong is stronger than Hody. Only if Arlong makes a comeback we can be able to judge that.
Lmaoo XD^^^^ what a joke of a post I hope others dont take him seriously U_U.....
Why is that ?

Everyone remembers Zoro cutting Hody, but no one remembers him swimming back up to them and locking them into a cage because Zoro was out of breath.

Do you think that in a fight against a drugged up hody that is much stronger Zoro has a greater lung capacity all of a sudden ? Or let's give Zoro a bubble, he would be a sitting duck, he doesn't have Shirahoshi or her brother to move him around in the water like Luffy had.

Like I said, Luffy wasn't able to beat Hody in the water either. Why would Zoro be able to according to you.

You joke of a human.
 
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Arlong very well could've become stronger than Hody at this point in time if Luffy didn't stop him in East Blue, Maybe he even did after that and Hody also used a lot of fake power which costed him his youth.

But still, you can't say that Arlong is stronger than Hody. Only if Arlong makes a comeback we can be able to judge that.


Why is that ?

Everyone remembers Zoro cutting Hody, but no one remembers him swimming back up to them and locking them into a cage because Zoro was out of breath.

Do you think that in a fight against a drugged up hody that is much stronger Zoro has a greater lung capacity all of a sudden ? Or let's give Zoro a bubble, he would be a sitting duck, he doesn't have Shirahoshi or her brother to move him around in the water like Luffy had.

Like I said, Luffy wasn't able to beat Hody in the water either. Why would Zoro be able to according to you.

You joke of a human.
I agree we can't really say one way or another but I can use past events to influence my decision on a what if type scenario and "what if" neither ever ran into Luffy results in Arlong being stronger than Hody. Arlong and Enel(despite how strong they were) are two of the many unfortunate characters to get trapped in a part 1 curse.
 

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Nope, Zoro is a lot more durable... Not sure about strength but other things are as you say...
You know when fans talk about tanking Zoro's sacrifice somehow always comes up ... but magically noone remembers Luffy at Marineford taking Admirals and Sengokus punch and all THAT AFTER FREAKING IMPEL DOWN!!!

@My Username did you really plead to V to perma ban everyone that doesn't like naruto? I loled when I saw that
 
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IF Zoro has coating bubble around him then Zoro wins easily. If not then he'd lose this.
Why ? He would be immobile in the water. That bubble only goes forward when you're walking or running in it. His speed would be limited and he is up against someone who doubles his speed in the water.

Even Luffy used Shirahoshi and Fukaboshi to move in the water. Hody only needs one shot to burst that bubble.
 

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You know when fans talk about tanking Zoro's sacrifice somehow always comes up ... but magically noone remembers Luffy at Marineford taking Admirals and Sengokus punch and all THAT AFTER FREAKING IMPEL DOWN!!!

@My Username did you really plead to V to perma ban everyone that doesn't like naruto? I loled when I saw that
All because inankov gave him adrenaline U_U.......;)...Zoro is a natural tank whilst luffy has to rely on drugs.
 

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All because inankov gave him adrenaline U_U.......;)...Zoro is a natural tank whilst luffy has to rely on drugs.
In Alabasta Liffy took much more of a beating than Zoro ... 3 times

At EL Luffy took much, much more of a beating than Zoro

At ID and MF Luffy took more of a beating than Zoro did in the entire part 1 ...

If anything Liffy is more durable than Zoro
 

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In Alabasta Liffy took much more of a beating than Zoro ... 3 times

At EL Luffy took much, much more of a beating than Zoro

At ID and MF Luffy took more of a beating than Zoro did in the entire part 1 ...

If anything Liffy is more durable than Zoro
Who is this Liffy you speak of? Also have you forgotten the part about Luffy being rubber and typical attacks not hurting him? Luffy could take multiple punches before it equaled the force Zoro takes from one hit because Luffy's body can morph and displace the force of a punch. Also this isn't even about Luffy and Zoro it's about Sanji and Zoro so you can stop mentioning Luffy's main character level durability about 3 posts ago as it's rather irrelevant to the topic. Also(yes there's a lot of also's I'm aware) Zoro at TB took ALL of Luffy's damage plus whatever his own body had already endured before hand.
 

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Who is this Liffy you speak of? Also have you forgotten the part about Luffy being rubber and typical attacks not hurting him? Luffy could take multiple punches before it equaled the force Zoro takes from one hit because Luffy's body can morph and displace the force of a punch. Also this isn't even about Luffy and Zoro it's about Sanji and Zoro so you can stop mentioning Luffy's main character level durability about 3 posts ago as it's rather irrelevant to the topic. Also(yes there's a lot of also's I'm aware) Zoro at TB took ALL of Luffy's damage plus whatever his own body had already endured before hand.
Yea god forbid a df counted as part of its users strength

You know I hear Kizaru is actually fodder, it's just the fruit
 

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Yea god forbid a df counted as part of its users strength

You know I hear Kizaru is actually fodder, it's just the fruit
Another irrelevant point, you're on a role today, one more and you'll be on fire NBA JAM style.

No matter how much you wanna make this about Luffy this thread is about Sanji and Zoro.
 

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Another irrelevant point, you're on a role today, one more and you'll be on fire NBA JAM style.

No matter how much you wanna make this about Luffy this thread is about Sanji and Zoro.
Actually its about Zoro and Hody

And the OP was made with a comparison to Luffy v Hody :/

If you check the last few threads the OP maker made you'll see his main point is to compare Luffy and Zoro underwater

#fail
 
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Unless Zoro one shots him very fast with his higher end moves, this fight will be tricky. I'm honestly not sure about the winner
 

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Actually its about Zoro and Hody

And the OP was made with a comparison to Luffy v Hody :/

If you check the last few threads the OP maker made you'll see his main point is to compare Luffy and Zoro underwater

#fail
You know what I've been on the computer too long today, I could have swore this was the thread asking who had a tougher body Zoro or Sanji so yea I guess I'll take that hashtag.
 
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