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Ehh all this villain talk made me want to throw my thoughts on the matter.
The thing is their presentation. It does not even have to be perfect, deep like an ocean on built on a huge ass past. Who said sob stories are necessary, we all have point of views on world but maybe not that tragic stories. If the villain is characterized what matters most is reason and methods. It has to make sense even though if we do not agree. Anything can make sense, i do not believe on buck load of things but i can see the reasoning.
Just think of "villains" of our world. We call people like Hitler, Stailin, Ghangis Khan, Mao, Pol Pot, Bloody Mary and many "maniacs" "sadhists" "plain evil" etc. while they had reasons do you think thousands and millions would follow a lunatic out of sanitarium? Hell no. They must have made sense to be followed or atleast those people had to be through in situations to follow. The reasoning behind the followers is not that touched upon in some stories though, that's another important matter when we view our villain.
Edit: Don't get me wrong psychos and plain evils do exist. But in a lesser scale like a serial killer or someone like Elizabeth Bathory. But it becomes a problem in fiction when author pushes a mainly psycho evil on a grander scale he/she can be.
Continuing with presentation sometimes characterization is not even needed to be a great or iconic villain. What matters most is how people would percieve and what made them interpret or remind. Giving a good example, "Big Brother" from "1984" (that one book i think just anyone should read). -Sort of spoiler- Big Brother did not even exactly exist as a person in the fiction itself, but it meant so much both in the universe he is in and the readers themselves he is a fulfilling "villain" with sole fact that he represents so much.
Just my point of view. Regarding to Esdeath i do not fancy her much but one thing i like is in the explanation River gave why he follows her. Something like "because she adored me" i think. The way she is with her followers (another example would be when she invited Bors on table with others) atleast somewhat decently explains one of many "why"s about her.
The thing is their presentation. It does not even have to be perfect, deep like an ocean on built on a huge ass past. Who said sob stories are necessary, we all have point of views on world but maybe not that tragic stories. If the villain is characterized what matters most is reason and methods. It has to make sense even though if we do not agree. Anything can make sense, i do not believe on buck load of things but i can see the reasoning.
Just think of "villains" of our world. We call people like Hitler, Stailin, Ghangis Khan, Mao, Pol Pot, Bloody Mary and many "maniacs" "sadhists" "plain evil" etc. while they had reasons do you think thousands and millions would follow a lunatic out of sanitarium? Hell no. They must have made sense to be followed or atleast those people had to be through in situations to follow. The reasoning behind the followers is not that touched upon in some stories though, that's another important matter when we view our villain.
Edit: Don't get me wrong psychos and plain evils do exist. But in a lesser scale like a serial killer or someone like Elizabeth Bathory. But it becomes a problem in fiction when author pushes a mainly psycho evil on a grander scale he/she can be.
Continuing with presentation sometimes characterization is not even needed to be a great or iconic villain. What matters most is how people would percieve and what made them interpret or remind. Giving a good example, "Big Brother" from "1984" (that one book i think just anyone should read). -Sort of spoiler- Big Brother did not even exactly exist as a person in the fiction itself, but it meant so much both in the universe he is in and the readers themselves he is a fulfilling "villain" with sole fact that he represents so much.
Just my point of view. Regarding to Esdeath i do not fancy her much but one thing i like is in the explanation River gave why he follows her. Something like "because she adored me" i think. The way she is with her followers (another example would be when she invited Bors on table with others) atleast somewhat decently explains one of many "why"s about her.
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Only bad thing about Narutu ending is that we have to go to another forum. Fuk Skype. No avatars.
Oh, wait you weren't joking when you said you like Itachi? You were actually... serious...? Shit, sorry man... I guess...
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.The most annoying side effect is being unable to understand how others feel about you, even if you spend a lot of time with them.
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This is why you should get perma'd. Itachi solos Uchiha clan and Sasuke. Oh wait, he already did.
You're not cold... you're just cool.
*Dat line though*
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That's actually true, sadly, besides a few of my relatives are like that as well (it's inherited). You don't know me in real life, do you?
OT: those who can watch AgK on Crunchyroll, can you confirm that Horriblesubs use(s) their subtitles?
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@AC: Okay, thanks.
I noticed that they translate some things (like Kurome's puppets' names) differently from what we see in scanlations. I wonder if those could be considered official at least until some other English version comes out.
@Yami: I didn't really feel anything special when I was younger, I only realized that I've always had that disorder (based on what I could remember about my younger years) when I became an adult. It actually has more subtle symptoms than usual teen angst (that said, I've never been an angsty teen). I could have written a whole essay on it but I don't really want to :|
I noticed that they translate some things (like Kurome's puppets' names) differently from what we see in scanlations. I wonder if those could be considered official at least until some other English version comes out.
@Yami: I didn't really feel anything special when I was younger, I only realized that I've always had that disorder (based on what I could remember about my younger years) when I became an adult. It actually has more subtle symptoms than usual teen angst (that said, I've never been an angsty teen). I could have written a whole essay on it but I don't really want to :|
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Not to be racist, but most Russian people tend to be a bit more apathetic than majority of the world. Just like Finns, Russians aren't the most social people you can meet.
It's genetic, but I doubt it's a disorder.
I have Austism. Back then, I wanted to kill myself and now I love life and the things that it gives me. I am usually shy, especially during my middle school years. My outs are reading fanfics and drawing........I just went through my whole life with those two sentences :|
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Just finished Corpse Princess. Worst ending ever.
I only say that because there wasn't one.
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Trust me, I know better. I mean, I spend most of my time among Russian people.
Not to mention many Russians (myself included) have very mixed heritage. I have both European and Asian roots, for example.
Also, SPD isn't just about being "cold" or anit-social. Like I said, it has more subtle ways of showing itself that I actually failed to notice until I was an adult. I'm by no means antisocial, I work with people, and I enjoy it, and you could say I'm generally quite emotional and friendly. The problem is that it had never ever gone below the "surface". I've never had actual friends, I can only hang out with people if there is a well-defined common interest or goal, I never miss people, etc.
If I had to describe it, I'd say that it feels like there's an invisible wall between me and the others, I can see everyone and I can understand them with my mind, but at the same time I can never truly connect with them. That even includes my family. While I try my best to be polite, I actually have no clue which kind of effect my words have on people. I never feel sorry for anyone and I know I have to pretend, but it's actually quite hard sometimes.
And man, I can't believe I just wrote that. I mean, I'm not the kind of person to flaunt my disorder to seek attention - in fact, I dislike talking about it since it isn't pleasant to think about and I just wish I didn't have it.
Well, autism is a much more serious disorder, while SPD isn't really even always classified as one. The mechanisms are different and I doubt it's fair to even compare them. I mean, I never actually suffered from my condition. It's just that it made me realize that I'm indeed not normal (in a bad way, not in that "nobody understands me, waah" sort of one).
OT: stupid daylight saving, now I'm even more lost in time :| Also, Ran.
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