[VS] Hiruzen Sarutobi vs. Tsunade Senju

3rd or 4th Hokage?

  • Hiruzen

    Votes: 10 41.7%
  • Tsunade

    Votes: 14 58.3%

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Gold Lightning

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All over once Tsunade goes 1000 Healings mode. Glad to see she's not being underrated.

Hiruzen can't deal with Tsunade in CQC, she regenerates from pretty much all elemental attacks, pretty sure she could dodge/side step most of them anyway.

She'll neg diff Enma if he doesn't stay in his staff form, and even then she has the strength to grab and disarm the staff from Hiruzen. Tsunade's paralysis jutsu is underrated. Don't engage her in CQC unless you have the speed, which Hiruzen doesn't.
 

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Hiruzen uses Earth Release: Moving Earth Core, to trap Tsunade, uses his staff to get the high ground, and then destroys Tsunade with a raiton or fuuton elemental stream or he might just use it right off the bat. She isn't dodging it anyway.
 

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Hiruzen in his prime stomps her with in a blink of an eye. Hiruzen current solos low difficulty.
 

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Hiruzen uses Earth Release: Moving Earth Core, to trap Tsunade, uses his staff to get the high ground, and then destroys Tsunade with a raiton or fuuton elemental stream or he might just use it right off the bat. She isn't dodging it anyway.

Stuff like that isn't trapping Tsunade, probably not even for a second when she can destroy it with one finger. Hiruzen's fuuton seems to be the blowing type ( same as part1 Temari's fuutons in CE ) and not the cutting type ( Danzo's fuutons for example ). His raiton isn't killing her as long as her seal is activated. In order to kill a regeneration user you have to decapitate her or to destroy her body with one blow. Otherwise she will just keep regenerating.
This is common sense in other books/movies/games etc too.

She can dodge elemental attacks easily, as seen when she reacted to 5 of Madara's huge ass katons.
 

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3rd Hokage > 5th Hokage

only other hokage skilled as much as Hiruzen are Tobirama and Hashirama.. so others.. even Minato.. are not on his level.
 

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Stuff like that isn't trapping Tsunade, probably not even for a second when she can destroy it with one finger.
Her destroying the ground below her won't stop the jutsu.:|
Hiruzen's fuuton seems to be the blowing type ( same as part1 Temari's fuutons in CE ) and not the cutting type ( Danzo's fuutons for example ).
This is simply an assumption. Hiruzen had mastered all of Konoha's jutsu and we .
His raiton isn't killing her as long as her seal is activated. In order to kill a regeneration user you have to decapitate her or to destroy her body with one blow. Otherwise she will just keep regenerating.
This is common sense in other books/movies/games etc too.
His massive Raiton slices Tsunade into hundreds of pieces, she isn't regenerating from such a jutsu.

She can dodge elemental attacks easily, as seen when she reacted to 5 of Madara's huge ass katons.
Bold: :rolleyes:

Lol


Get wrecked.
 

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Prime Hiruzen low diffs.

Old Hiruzen either draws with RDS or wins extremely high diff.
 

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Her destroying the ground below her won't stop the jutsu.:|

This is simply an assumption. Hiruzen had mastered all of Konoha's jutsu and we .

His massive Raiton slices Tsunade into hundreds of pieces, she isn't regenerating from such a jutsu.


Bold: :rolleyes:

Lol


Get wrecked.

- It will, or she will simply destroy the doton. Or everything around her with her heel.
- Show me a scan Hiruzen using fuutons like that. But if you are willing to use his hype, than I guess I'm also allowed to post Tsunade's hype ( unsurpassed CqC skills, battle immortality, poison, etc )
- Not all raitons are slicing, only the sharp ones. This seems to be a stream of lightning and we have no clue how strong it is, but usually noname techniques are jounin level at best. So I have no reason to believe it can kill her when she regenerated from techniques far more powerful
- thanks for posting that scan, you just proved my point. The fact that she was fast enough to protect the Gokage means she could have dodge the attack just as easily.
 

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Hashirama> Minato>=Tobirama> Tsunade> Hiruzen.
 

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- It will, or she will simply destroy the doton. Or everything around her with her heel.
I am not even sure if you know how this jutsu works. Hiruzen will use it send Tsunade underground. How is destroying the terrain helping?Lol
- Show me a scan Hiruzen using fuutons like that. But if you are willing to use his hype, than I guess I'm also allowed to post Tsunade's hype ( unsurpassed CqC skills, battle immortality, poison, etc )
:| By hype Hiruzen beats Hashirama. Hiruzen was very talented, and could use all 5 elements. Why can't he use cutting Fuuton.
- Not all raitons are slicing, only the sharp ones. This seems to be a stream of lightning and we have no clue how strong it is, but usually noname techniques are jounin level at best. So I have no reason to believe it can kill her when she regenerated from techniques far more powerful
He can just use a cutting Raiton stream, or the Raiton will paralyze her long enough for him to cut her with a Fuuton stream.
- thanks for posting that scan, you just proved my point. The fact that she was fast enough to protect the Gokage means she could have dodge the attack just as easily.
Yes, i just proved that the Katon we saw wasn't big at all.
 

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I am not even sure if you know how this jutsu works. Hiruzen will use it send Tsunade underground. How is destroying the terrain helping?Lol

:| By hype Hiruzen beats Hashirama. Hiruzen was very talented, and could use all 5 elements. Why can't he use cutting Fuuton.

He can just use a cutting Raiton stream, or the Raiton will paralyze her long enough for him to cut her with a Fuuton stream.

Yes, i just proved that the Katon we saw wasn't big at all.

Okay, so your whole post is based solely on hype, so I don't have to counter it because you can't back it up with manga scans.


As for the last one, Madara intended to kill 5 shinobies with those Katons when he was fully aware at least two of them have the ability to counter it ( Suiton or Gaara's sand shield ), this should tell you how powerful the attack was. They were about as big as an average human, so they weren't small at all.

Aaand you proved she was fast enough to percieve his intent, come up with a plan and react. All this before Mei could wave a handseal or Ay attempt to dodge.

( btw, Madara and small katons? Rofl )
 

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Okay, so your whole post is based solely on hype, so I don't have to counter it because you can't back it up with manga scans.


As for the last one, Madara intended to kill 5 shinobies with those Katons when he was fully aware at least two of them have the ability to counter it ( Suiton or Gaara's sand shield ), this should tell you how powerful the attack was. They were about as big as an average human, so they weren't small at all.

Aaand you proved she was fast enough to percieve his intent, come up with a plan and react. All this before Mei could wave a handseal or Ay attempt to dodge.

( btw, Madara and small katons? Rofl )
All you use are assumptions, deny the facts i give, don't understand what a big Katon is, and still can't understand how Moving Earth Core works.:|
Bye.
 

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Okay, so your whole post is based solely on hype, so I don't have to counter it because you can't back it up with manga scans.


As for the last one, Madara intended to kill 5 shinobies with those Katons when he was fully aware at least two of them have the ability to counter it ( Suiton or Gaara's sand shield ), this should tell you how powerful the attack was. They were about as big as an average human, so they weren't small at all.

Aaand you proved she was fast enough to percieve his intent, come up with a plan and react. All this before Mei could wave a handseal or Ay attempt to dodge.

( btw, Madara and small katons? Rofl )

Tsunade stated there was no chance in winning w/o users who could counter his fire.
 

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All you use are assumptions, deny the facts i give, don't understand what a big Katon is, and still can't understand how Moving Earth Core works.:|
Bye.

Oh, the irony.
By hype Hiruzen beats Hashirama. Hiruzen was very talented, and could use all 5 elements. Why can't he use cutting Fuuton.

Bye.
 

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Tsunade stated there was no chance in winning w/o users who could counter his fire.

No, she said they need Mei to counter his katons. She never said anything about their chances of winning.

But my points had nothing to do with this.
 
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