To Sasuke fans who said Naruto was cheating with Bijuus power.

Romy9

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 12, 2014
Messages
2,841
Reaction score
177
No, it's not irrelevant is the fact Minato was the one to give Naruto the power-up, rather than earn it himself, is the most significant factor to why Sasuke fans consider it a borrowed power. Hence why Obito and Madara aren't claimed to have borrowed power, they took it themselves.

That's not an argument. Naruto received a Bijuu forcefully as an infant. You're trying to put that as an argument against a full powered Sasuke. That's beyond ridiculous. They took it themselves because they had the ability to do so, just like Sasuke has now. And just like Naruto once he matured and got the ability to get a hold of it.
 

Orochimagus

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
May 8, 2012
Messages
1,187
Reaction score
125
No, the Uchiha have a natural advantage over others with their bloodline limit. Naruto's bloodline limit is the Uzumaki life force so the ability to meld well with the tailed beasts. Both have unnatural advantages but now Sasuke has twice the advantage.
 

Donald Trump

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Mar 12, 2014
Messages
1,332
Reaction score
47
No, it's not irrelevant is the fact Minato was the one to give Naruto the power-up, rather than earn it himself, is the most significant factor to why Sasuke fans consider it a borrowed power. Hence why Obito and Madara aren't claimed to have borrowed power, they took it themselves.

Again, cursed mark. Sasuke didn't take it, he got a hickey.
 

Romy9

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 12, 2014
Messages
2,841
Reaction score
177
No, the Uchiha have a natural advantage over others with their bloodline limit. Naruto's bloodline limit is the Uzumaki life force so the ability to meld well with the tailed beasts. Both have unnatural advantages but now Sasuke has twice the advantage.

If they're on par, neither has a significant advantage.
 

Donald Trump

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Mar 12, 2014
Messages
1,332
Reaction score
47
as an infant who could not refuse though his mother did voice her opinion that she didn't want her son to be the container having experienced that life first hand, my point stands.

I was just fixing that one statement, because Kurama didn't pop into his belly when he popped out of his mother.
 

Apêx1

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Mar 26, 2014
Messages
6,929
Reaction score
442
That's not an argument. Naruto received a Bijuu forcefully as an infant. You're trying to put that as an argument against a full powered Sasuke. That's beyond ridiculous. They took it themselves because they had the ability to do so, just like Sasuke has now. And just like Naruto once he matured and got the ability to get a hold of it.

No. Bold is highly illogical. Naruto didn't need to seal the Bijuu within him, and nothing suggests he would've been able to had he grew up as a non-Jin. Sasuke took them by his own capabilities and hence is using their abilities because he earned them. Naruto didn't earn Kurama, he simply fought it with the help of Bee.
 

Uchiha Samater

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Aug 29, 2012
Messages
2,037
Reaction score
305
one was given the chakra as infant with no say in the matter

however took the chakra by force as an adolescent due to his bloodline


one took the chakra as an adolescent due to his bloodline


fanboys will be fanboys


ssssssssssss-s'olod
 

UzumakiRyu

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 18, 2014
Messages
3,523
Reaction score
121
one was given the chakra as infant with no say in the matter

however took the chakra by force as an adolescent due to his bloodline


one took the chakra as an adolescent due to his bloodline


fanboys will be fanboys


ssssssssssss-s'olod

Unless you be more specific regarding who took what due to who's bloodline, everything you wrote is gibberish.
 

Romy9

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 12, 2014
Messages
2,841
Reaction score
177
No. Bold is highly illogical. Naruto didn't need to seal the Bijuu within him, and nothing suggests he would've been able to had he grew up as a non-Jin. Sasuke took them by his own capabilities and hence is using their abilities because he earned them. Naruto didn't earn Kurama, he simply fought it with the help of Bee.

No, it's highly logical. Naruto also earned to use Kurama's abilities and every other Bijuu because his progress allowed him to. He earned Kurama's respect and was able to mend his chakra. You don't understand that Senju/Uzumaki and Uchiha can both control Bijuu but through different means. The logical standpoint without digression is the same. They're both using Bijuu's powers because they can, regardless of how they obtained it. It's really a moot point trying to make Sasuke superior. Which, in a logical debate, doesn't hold any ground whatsoever.
 

Zawerni

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Aug 6, 2014
Messages
3,899
Reaction score
244
What's all this about Sasuke "earning" the Bijuu power as opposed to Naruto?

Naruto was the one who befriended the beasts and has earned their respect by saving them. He has "earned" their power just as much as Sasuke.
 

Romy9

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 12, 2014
Messages
2,841
Reaction score
177
What's all this about Sasuke "earning" the Bijuu power as opposed to Naruto?

Naruto was the one who befriended the beasts and has earned their respect by saving them. He has "earned" their power just as much as Sasuke.

That's what Sasuke fans belittle. Not that it matters though.
 

Donald Trump

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Mar 12, 2014
Messages
1,332
Reaction score
47
No. Bold is highly illogical. Naruto didn't need to seal the Bijuu within him, and nothing suggests he would've been able to had he grew up as a non-Jin. Sasuke took them by his own capabilities and hence is using their abilities because he earned them. Naruto didn't earn Kurama, he simply fought it with the help of Bee.

Did you just say that Naruto didn't earn Kurama because he had help? Oh my god, get out of here. You Sasuke fodders act like Sasuke never had help in his life. >.>
 

UzumakiRyu

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 18, 2014
Messages
3,523
Reaction score
121
No, it's highly logical. Naruto also earned to use Kurama's abilities and every other Bijuu because his progress allowed him to. He earned Kurama's respect and was able to mend his chakra. You don't understand that Senju/Uzumaki and Uchiha can both control Bijuu but through different means. The logical standpoint without digression is the same. They're both using Bijuu's powers because they can, regardless of how they obtained it. It's really a moot point trying to make Sasuke superior. Which, in a logical debate, doesn't hold any ground whatsoever.

You fail to comprehend first the thread which was asking "To Sasuke fans who said Naruto was cheating with Bijuus power." which since he forcibly sucked chakra from all 9 spheres and mended and combined the chakra into his PS is by Sasuke's definition cheating since he himself said he would never use their power but now here he is using it.
 

Nismo

Member
Joined
Aug 25, 2014
Messages
112
Reaction score
4
What's wrong with sasuke using the bijuus power? He captured them fair and square. Don't be hypocrites now nardos
 

Joe Black

Member
Joined
Nov 8, 2012
Messages
256
Reaction score
24
At least Naruto earned the Bijuus power, Sasuke just stole it. And even so, Naruto is matching him with nature energy.
 

WalksInShadows

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Feb 8, 2012
Messages
5,365
Reaction score
233
surprise, surprise. Someone calls the homers out on their garbage, and excuses get rolled out like clockwork.
Naruto was given Kurama but not the ability to use him properly. It's something he came about on his own. I also don't give a flying **** about, but I always try to find a reasonable mind within Sasuke fans.
good luck with that Lol

What's wrong with sasuke using the bijuus power? He captured them fair and square. Don't be hypocrites now nardos
the biggest indictment Naruto has had to suffer from some Sasuke fans is that Sasuke didn't need the bijuu's power to best Naruto, and now they don't get to use that anymore.
 

Nismo

Member
Joined
Aug 25, 2014
Messages
112
Reaction score
4
At least Naruto earned the Bijuus power, Sasuke just stole it. And even so, Naruto is matching him with nature energy.

It took naruto how long to control the kuubys power? 17yrs? It took sasuke how long? 5 minutes, lol. Just another reason why sasuke is superior.
 

Joe Black

Member
Joined
Nov 8, 2012
Messages
256
Reaction score
24
It took naruto how long to control the kuubys power? 17yrs? It took sasuke how long? 5 minutes, lol. Just another reason why sasuke is superior.
Being a jinchuuriki is different.
 
Top