[VS] Killer Bee vs EMS Sasuke

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Lol the tentacle that was hit with amatearsu was clearly seperated from the main body of the hachibi, sasuke only managed to cut the tentacle even more
, he does the exact same thing here to counter amaterasu and then blows sasuke up with TBB
except sasuke knows he has something like that in his locker to counter his flames, he figured it out himself. once bee is covered in flames sasukes eyes would be red alert hence once the tentacle pops out then he lights it up in amaterasu or enton arrows and bee dies.
 
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Lol how the hell is reverse summoning helping?
Removing tentacle says hi
then Bee uses the ink to block sasukes LoS and proceeds to nuke sasuke off, therefore sasuke dies,
While Bee uses Ink Sasuke proceeds to summons the hawk and use it to dodge Bijuudama's and from there he can light Bee on fire with Ama.
 

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While Bee uses Ink Sasuke proceeds to summons the hawk and use it to dodge Bijuudama's and from there he can light Bee on fire with Ama.

He then gets blown away by whirlwind thus allowing bee plenty of time to eradicate him with TBB GG
except sasuke knows he has something like that in his locker to counter his flames, he figured it out himself. once bee is covered in flames sasukes eyes would be red alert hence once the tentacle pops out then he lights it up in amaterasu or enton arrows and bee dies.
Except, that bee can just take the tentacle out and the blow him away from whirlwind
Not to mention that sasuke still has no intel on his ink

And Enton arrow takes the same time to form as TBB, and if bee fires off TBB then sasuke dies, while Enton arrows are tanked by bee
 
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Lol pre MS sasuke would get pooped on by Bee, just how he did in canon
1. I'm pretty sure that I explicitly said that pre MS Sasuke loses to Bee

2. Pre MS Sasuke was doing very well in the beginning, so it's not like he got easily defeated

3. The only reason why Sasuke lost was because he underestimated his opponent

/Given point when he thought that be was defeated in his Genjutsu, but Sasuke didn't have the knowledge that all full Jinchuriki's are immune to Genjutsu. If Sasuke had that intel on his side from the beginning then he wouldn't have been so careless nor would he have gotten speedblitzed by Lariat.

Pertaining to EMS Sasuke, which is what this thread is about, it seems that people are foolishly believing that Bijuudama spam is the answer to Sasuke's demise and will solve all of Bee's problems.

The only thing that Bee can do in this fight is hide with tentacles and fire Bijuudama? Yeah, that's not going to get him anywhere.

Sasuke wins high diff at best. Bee has no way of touching Sasuke covered in flames and Bijuudama can easily countered and deflected by a Susano'O arrow and don't tell me that it won't happen because it was already shown how fast his arrows can be.
 

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Never said that he was at his best, I'm just seeing nothing from you that implies he was so weakened that he'd be unable to take a Base Rasengan when he allegedly tanked Bijuu Dama before.

Choza and Choji were about to smash him here.


Is this attack stronger than Bijuu Dama, which he supposedly tanked?

You already admitted that Deva gets run through by Chidori. Asura is more durable as Raikiri had trouble getting through, yet Naruto's Senpo: Rasengan blew it apart with ease. Are you insinuating that Senpo Rasengan>>Bijuu Dama?

Do you need him to state that he was severely weakened? It's a corpse. It doesn't feel anything. We already saw that the blast detonated in front of KN6's face, where it was in between Pain and KN6. And it detonated right after the rock hit him.

Because they all have the same durability? No. Also Senpo: Rasengan > Raikiri. Asura Path =/= Deva Path, who took on harder attacks than Asura.

Panel 1: Rock slams into KN6's mouth.

Panel 2: Bijuu Dama is shown away from KN6's mouth, thus it was fired, and going how his mouth was pointed away, and the fact that Deva isn't strong or durable enough to take a KN6 Bijuu Dama, that leads me to believe it exploded away from them.

Panel 1: Correct.

Panel 2: The Bijuu Dama exploded at that place, looking at the geographical location even proves it further.

Also, how did Deva's clothes get destroyed?

Is that not a hole?


But one is still stronger, thus they can be compared, just not by the same means as comparing the same type of attack.

True.

What you just did.

Are you even reading my posts? Cause I clearly said that it does, but not every wind blade attacked Kakuzu, and that isn't debatable as you can see him in the middle of that large sphere, unless you want to tell me how the parts of the sphere that weren't touching him pierced him (Lol, Magic?) then you are wrong.

Do you even know what I mean when I say concentrated? You should because I explained it. It affects a smaller surface area (Fact) thus creating more pressure thus doing more damage even though its incomparably weaker than FRS. Same exact reason why if you went and laid on a nail, you'd get pierced but if I laid on a bed of nails, I'd be perfectly fine. Same exact reason. Chidori doesn't cut better than FRS, that's nonsense. Take Kakuzu, enlarge him (keep his durability the same) so that he's the same size of the wind sphere and FRS would obliterate him while Chidori merely runs him through.

When it comes to energy output, Chidori=Rasengan is an established fact. So I'll say that they are both at 150 J for this example. Chidori focuses that 150 J into one point while Rasengan spreads it out, so Rasengan would do less damage to Ay despite it being equal with Rasengan. If you took the Chidori, and made it affect the same exact surface area that Rasengan affects, what would happen? Chidori would be tanked with no damage just like Rasengan unlike it piercing his armor like it did in the manga.

Then why would you say this?

The fact that its more widespread means that all of the Wind blades aren't hitting every cell in the body.

Yes, it's obvious. How else did Tsunade deduce that? Did she come to the scene and examine it? Did she see the attack? No, she deduced the density and attack potency from what happened to Kakuzu, and as she said, blades attack every cell of the body. Not to mention, she left it at that and didn't say that all blades are required to attack every cell of the body. It could be that just a fraction hits every cell of the body, who knows.

If, he was a small sphere. If Futon is a cutting weapon, Raiton always beats it . As we saw, YRS didn't cut Madara half, but Chidori, a regular Chidori blade did. Chidori as cutting weapon, would do more damage than FRS. But FRS has better attack potency hence why it's superior.

Hachibi took a Bijuu Dama to be put down, yet you are saying a Susanoo arrow is going to one shot him, so no, the point isn't moot. Its literally the same example just switched out with two different beings.

Failing to see how the bold is relevant.

Him being able to take on Bijuu Dama doesn't mean he can take on an arrow. Bijuu Dama didn't eradicate his tentacles, but a Chidori and even regular shuriken cut them with ease. An arrow to the throat kills him inevitably.

bijuuwave ends sasuke and his hawk.

Doesn't even get past of ribcage or V2, tbh.
 
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right, because deva path can tank a bijuudama, yet gets one-shotted by a base rasengan.


wait, what attack do you even think Iʻm referring to?
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What else would you mean by "Bijuuwave"?
 

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right, because deva path can tank a bijuudama, yet gets one-shotted by a base rasengan.


wait, what attack do you even think Iʻm referring to?

So are you referring that Bijuu Dama < Rasengan? Because obviously, he was weakened.

Yeah, the attack that Suigetsu tanked.
 

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So are you referring that Bijuu Dama < Rasengan? Because obviously, he was weakened.
being ʻweakenedʻ has nothing to do with going from tanking a mountain vaporizer to getting one-shotted by a boulder-buster.

Yeah, the attack that Suigetsu tanked.
Considering suigetsu while in a lake got one-shot as a result of the attack merely passing through him and exploding a mile behind, no, suigetsu in no way shape or form tanked a bijuuwave.
 

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nope, and lol thatʻs suppose to be a ʻgust of windʻ? Downplaying a technique much?
Downplaying Sasuke's Complete Susano'O much?


Lol, Sasuke cancels that out with his Enton arrows or he just sends it off course.

Or there's always another option. He can simply move away from the radius, considering how long it takes B to charge it up, Sasuke would have already came up with a way to deal with it.
 

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Downplaying Sasuke's Complete Susano'O much?
How exactly? I havenʻt even said anything about his susanoo. And I guess youʻve flat out admitted that you dishonestly tried to downplay a technique in order to suit your agenda. GJ.


Lol, Sasuke cancels that out with his Enton arrows or he just sends it off course.
based on what would sauskeʻs enton arrows cancel an attack like that or be able to divert it?

Or there's always another option. He can simply move away from the radius, considering how long it takes B to charge it up, Sasuke would have already came up with a way to deal with it.
Um, are you suggesting that bee canʻt.... aim his bijuudama after itʻs charged?

The bolded is laughable as ʻX character would have magically come up with a way to deal with itʻ is not in anyway an argument for how said character deals with something. If Sasuke can counter it, you should be able to explain how he does so, not just say ʻsasuke would just counter itʻ.

Finally, the bijuuwave is beeʻs answer for sasuke trying to avoid him while flying, itʻs not his answer to sasuke w/ his upper susanoos.
 

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being ʻweakenedʻ has nothing to do with going from tanking a mountain vaporizer to getting one-shotted by a boulder-buster.

Hit a mirror few times until it's at it's breaking point. Throw something as small as a plastic hollow ball and it breaks.

So what's your point? Rasengan is stronger?

Considering suigetsu while in a lake got one-shot as a result of the attack merely passing through him and exploding a mile behind, no, suigetsu in no way shape or form tanked a bijuuwave.

Explains why Sasuke, Karin and Juugo didn't suffer any injuries who were right behind him.
 

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Hit a mirror few times until it's at it's breaking point. Throw something as small as a plastic hollow ball and it breaks.

So what's your point? Rasengan is stronger?
Except the mirror analogy has absolutely nothing to do with a human body as human bodies donʻt shatter, nor was deva pathʻs body anywhere near its breaking point seeing as he wasnʻt even bleeding after the bijuudama and he was able to outrun KN6.

Like I have no idea where you are getting this idea that deva path can tank a bijuudama. This is the same path that couldnʻt even get up after blocking one of SM Narutoʻs kicks, was about to get one-shotted by one of SM NArutoʻs punches, and needed asura path to block a raikiri.

Explains why Sasuke, Karin and Juugo didn't suffer any injuries who were right behind him.
They didnʻt suffer any injuries because they dodged it. Thatʻs the entire point suigetsu staying behind to hold off bee while the rest of the team runs allowing them to escape the blast.

Unless you actually believe that the bijuudama that erased giant kumo mountains couldnʻt even burn off the akatsuki robes that taka was wearing.
 
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How exactly?
I'm sure you know.

I havenʻt even said anything about his susanoo.
You didn't have to.

And I guess youʻve flat out admitted that you dishonestly tried to downplay a technique in order to suit your agenda. GJ.
Not downplaying, just trying to prove how pathetic this Bijuudama wank is getting.

I don't quite remember a Bijuudama killing anyone.

based on what would sauskeʻs enton arrows cancel an attack like that or be able to divert it?
It seems you don't know anything about explosions.

If Naruto's Bijuudama was cancelled out by a single Susano'O enhanced Chidori then an Enton arrow diverting Bee's BD shouldn't be questioned.

Sasuke's arrows can launch faster than his Bijuudama so Sasuke will attack B first. This will give an opening for Amaterasu. Once B tries to shed or cut off a tentacle or whatever the hell he does, Sasuke will fire even more arrows until Bee gets hit.


Um, are you suggesting that bee canʻt.... aim his bijuudama after itʻs charged?
Are you implying that Bee will fire his attack first and successfully hit Sasuke in perfect succession?

The bolded is laughable as ʻX character would have magically come up with a way to deal with itʻ is not in anyway an argument for how said character deals with something.
Funny because that's what most characters do, or do they not? I guess your simple logic implies that once Sasuke see's B fire the Bijuudama that he will become scared and just start shaking in his boots instead of either running out of the way or just deflecting it with his own attack? How silly of you to think this.

If Sasuke can counter it, you should be able to explain how he does so, not just say ʻsasuke would just counter itʻ.
I have already told you. I don't know why you are trying to be spoon fed everything and act as if B will just immediately fire his Bijuudama without any time. Sasuke will attack him first. That is a given. If Be fires his BD then, as I said, Sasuke sends it off course with a Susano'O Kagutsuchi arrow. It's not that hard to understand.

Finally, the bijuuwave is beeʻs answer for sasuke trying to avoid him while flying, itʻs not his answer to sasuke w/ his upper susanoos.
Sasuke uses Amaterasu in the dust cloud.

Bee isn't winning.
 

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Except the mirror analogy has absolutely nothing to do with a human body as human bodies donʻt shatter, nor was deva pathʻs body anywhere near its breaking point seeing as he wasnʻt even bleeding after the bijuudama and he was able to outrun KN6.

Like I have no idea where you are getting this idea that deva path can tank a bijuudama. This is the same path that couldnʻt even get up after blocking one of SM Narutoʻs kicks, was about to get one-shotted by one of SM NArutoʻs punches, and needed asura path to block a raikiri.

This is a corpse. It's not a regular human body. Pain could fight while destroyed... so this analogy doesn't apply here.

Because he already took on a Bijuu Dama, from point blank range. Don't know why you guys are trying to refute this, because it happened in canon.

They didnʻt suffer any injuries because they dodged it. Thatʻs the entire point suigetsu staying behind to hold off bee while the rest of the team runs allowing them to escape the blast.

Unless you actually believe that the bijuudama that erased giant kumo mountains couldnʻt even burn off the akatsuki robes that taka was wearing.

Karin, who was carrying a severely injured Sasuke dodged this ?

Bijuu Dama didn't even destroy Pain's clothes nor Orochimaru's, so point stays moot.
 
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