Naruto represents injustice

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i dont hate Naruto uzumaki...but his character is flawed :

Naruto will be an insane hokage becuz he always forgive top class criminals = Naruto represents injustice...


-Nagato was top class cirminel and serial killer who slaughtred even children....


-it's ok to understand nagato's life and pains..but its not ok to forgive him..becuz nagato never understood the pains of the innocent lives he took...


-Naruto went even too far when he called obito "THE COOLEST GUY" ....yeah baby !!!...the more you kill konoha poeple , the more you become cool !!!....Right Neji??...........


-i think Naruto is still naive and a kid...after all he is just 17 years old...i hope will he will learn from his mistakes...

Dude, Naruto did not forgive Nagato's crime. Rather, he stuck to his ideal of not paying evil with evil. This is what most people don't get. They keep doing what they condemn others for.

For example, Sasuke killed Danzou for his parents death without being a judge. If Danzou had a child stronger than Sasuke, he would have gone and take revenge on Sasuke, and the cycle will continue since they act on their own judgement. This is pretty much what most of you like, and it is laughable.
 

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Dude, Naruto did not forgive Nagato's crime. Rather, he stuck to his ideal of not paying evil with evil. This is what most people don't get. They keep doing what they condemn others for.

For example, Sasuke killed Danzou for his parents death without being a judge. If Danzou had a child stronger than Sasuke, he would have gone and take revenge on Sasuke, and the cycle will continue since they act on their own judgement. This is pretty much what most of you like, and it is laughable.

-naruto did forgive nagato and decided to not take revenge...

-naruto sympathezed with nagato and obito wich is worst then forgiving them...

-danzo was a bad villain who committed many evil,incidents...thx to sasuke who established justice by killing him
 

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Do you not forgive Obito before or after he gives Kakashi Perfect Susanoo and helps save the world from a giant bomb?

It's hypothetical but I always get disturbed by people who want to go back in time to kill Hitler rather than go back in time and persuade him to make another choice. I've been watching too much Dr Who.
 

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Do you not forgive Obito before or after he gives Kakashi Perfect Susanoo and helps save the world from a giant bomb?

It's hypothetical but I always get disturbed by people who want to go back in time to kill Hitler rather than go back in time and persuade him to make another choice. I've been watching too much Dr Who.

no need to go back in time cuz there were poeple who tried to reason hitler countless times but to no avail......and ive been listning to Dr Dre
 

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no need to go back in time cuz there were poeple who tried to reason hitler countless times but to no avail......and ive been listning to Dr Dre

Haven't listened to the chronic in too long.

Hitler got into power because he won the election. Democracy isn't perfect.
 

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Dude, Naruto did not forgive Nagato's crime. Rather, he stuck to his ideal of not paying evil with evil. This is what most people don't get. They keep doing what they condemn others for.

For example, Sasuke killed Danzou for his parents death without being a judge. If Danzou had a child stronger than Sasuke, he would have gone and take revenge on Sasuke, and the cycle will continue since they act on their own judgement. This is pretty much what most of you like, and it is laughable.

Still though, Naruto is idealistic up to an unrealistic level. I mean it's ok to have some of your opponents turn good but this rule to apply on everyone? Give me a break. Let me you give you a hypothetical scenario. Let's say that Naruto had left Nagato live (as he did) with the difference that nagato would simply retreat without reviving anyone. All Konoha and its people would remain debris. Now let's say that some time later Nagato would destroy another country, what would be the result of that? Naruto would have allowed one person to live but in exchange that person would stick to his ideals and would kill another bunch of people.

Now, don't get me wrong, I love the messages this manga tries to pass but I think that they should be passed on a more realistic level. You can't expect people to learn, hope, or believe that no matter what, people can change under the correct influence. Let's be merciful but not forgetful as well.
 
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Still though, Naruto is idealistic up to an unrealistic level. I mean it's ok to have some of your opponents turn good but this rule to apply on everyone? Give me a break. Let me you give you a hypothetical scenario. Let's say that Naruto had left Nagato live (as he did) with the difference that nagato would simply retreat without reviving anyone. All Konoha and its people would remain debris. Now let's say that some time later Nagato would destroy another country, what would be the result of that? Naruto would have allowed one person to live but in exchange that person would stick to his ideals and would another bunch of people.

Now, don't get me wrong, I love the messages this manga tries to pass but I think that they should be passed on a more realistic level. You can't expect people to learn, hope, or believe that no matter what people can change under the correct influence. Let's be merciful but not forgetful as well.

heyyyy!!...its my thread ..not his !!!
 

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Still though, Naruto is idealistic up to an unrealistic level. I mean it's ok to have some of your opponents turn good but this rule to apply on everyone? Give me a break. Let me you give you a hypothetical scenario. Let's say that Naruto had left Nagato live (as he did) with the difference that nagato would simply retreat without reviving anyone. All Konoha and its people would remain debris. Now let's say that some time later Nagato would destroy another country, what would be the result of that? Naruto would have allowed one person to live but in exchange that person would stick to his ideals and would another bunch of people.

Now, don't get me wrong, I love the messages this manga tries to pass but I think that they should be passed on a more realistic level. You can't expect people to learn, hope, or believe that no matter what people can change under the correct influence. Let's be merciful but not forgetful as well.

Naruto doesn't intend to just let Sasuke kill everyone and let Sasuke walk off. His solution does acknowledge that he might have to break Sasuke's arms and legs and drag him back to Konoha. He just doesn't want to kill anyone. Batman takes the same approach generally speaking (no guns).
 

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Still though, Naruto is idealistic up to an unrealistic level. I mean it's ok to have some of your opponents turn good but this rule to apply on everyone? Give me a break. Let me you give you a hypothetical scenario. Let's say that Naruto had left Nagato live (as he did) with the difference that nagato would simply retreat without reviving anyone. All Konoha and its people would remain debris. Now let's say that some time later Nagato would destroy another country, what would be the result of that? Naruto would have allowed one person to live but in exchange that person would stick to his ideals and would kill another bunch of people.

Now, don't get me wrong, I love the messages this manga tries to pass but I think that they should be passed on a more realistic level. You can't expect people to learn, hope, or believe that no matter what, people can change under the correct influence. Let's be merciful but not forgetful as well.

I doubt Naruto was planning to just let Nagato walk away, remember that he intended to take Obito back to the village to pay for his actions, and his plan is to drag Sasuke back to the village to stop him.

He just wasn't going to kill them.
 

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I doubt Naruto was planning to just let Nagato walk away, remember that he intended to take Obito back to the village to pay for his actions, and his plan is to drag Sasuke back to the village to stop him.

He just wasn't going to kill them.

If that's the case then I'm fine with that.
 

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Judea-Christianity and Hindu-Buddhist teach forgiveness is the hearth of they're teaching. Someone ones said if everybody takes an eye for an eye then everyone would be blind.Justice and forgiveness can go hand in hand.
 

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It doesn't matter

Kakashi will be Hokage and in the future, he will grow up and take that role
 

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Holy Tobidara, please enlighten the messiah Minamoto because his paths are wrong.

Naruto is all about second chances. Like i said, it is better to forgive than to become one of them. By killing them without trying TNJ would make Narut equal to them, killing is never the first option. Naruto shows traits of compassion, pure goodness , don't forget that he eliminated his hate ego, his darker self.
 

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"To err is human, to forgive, divine."
Alexander Pope.


most heroes/good guys in fiction win through love/forgiveness e.g.: Harry Potter, Luke Skywalker,

only anti heroes kill for the "greater good" which sometimes bites them in the ass



loads of examples here
 

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Forgiving criminals and allowing them to continue committing or facing consequences for their crimes is not the same thing.
 

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That's what they said about hashirama maybe your right maybe.

He wants to understand the people who needs to be understood

He gets rid of people who can't be understood.

Such as...

Madara,Kaguya,the most the akasuki members.

If Madara can't be understood meaning he will never change even if he's revived (maybe)
 

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Naruto is naive, I think most of base agrees with you on that. Naruto has a LOT of growing up to do before he can sit in the Hokage seat. Same for Sasuke in all honesty.

@Tobidara... Yeah, it seems less likely now, sadly. I do hope Madz gets one last hurrah though. Maybe to use Izanami on Sasuke.
 
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