Uchiha Sasuke Dōjutsu

[Unorthodox]

I guess since Amaterasu was used it wasn't a Sharingan jutsu, you know, because Rinnegan was shown instead of Sharingan. Tomoe Rinnegan has the Sharingan power, hence the reason it has tomoes in the first place. Other Rinnegan has yet to use Genjutsu.

Amaterasu wasit used because he's going to need the bijuu alive to break IT. sharingan genjutsu has always required eye contact where as sasuke didnt need that there it was rinne-genjutsu get over it and for more proof why wouldnt he just use a simple 3 tomoe genjutsu on sakura he whopped er with that rinne-genjutsu aswell

 

[ANiMUS]

I read a manga that you can't comprehend basics.

Can you actually read English? Where does it say Kaguya has the Sharingan itself? It says she has the Sharingan's powers. NOWHERE DOES IT SAY IT IS A SHARINGAN.​

He wouldn't have used Genjutsu on them if he can make core-less CT. Literally no need to.​

Standard Rinnegan has Hagoromo's full Chakra. Half can't have the potential to surpass full.​

It says right there. Mother possessed the ocular powers of the Sharingan and the Byakugan. No where does it say Rinnegan. :|

 

[Benjamin King]

We're gonna go in circles because of stupid statements here, Hagoromo said it had sharingans power to it? Well no shit even madara had sharingan powers inbuilt in his rinnegan, yet he needed to open the third eye to cast IT like kaguya. So dont tell me it's all the same. Needless to mention that because of having sharingan power added to rinnegan it also different in design is it not?

Not sure what you're grasping on...I brought a scan that says Kaguya has Sharingan's powers, not that her eye is the Sharingan. Correction number 1. Sharingan has tomoes in them, so if its added to the Rinnegan, it's going to give a design. This is obvious.​

BZ's argument is invalid that crap was born when hagoromo was grown and kicking his mother's ass, already with rinnegan and shit.
There is simply no way for BZ to know such detail, or should we belive that hiruzen was strongest cuz you know iruka said so?

It's more valid than listening to a mere member's fan-fic. And no, he doesn't need to be born after or before. He is Kaguya's will, meaning he knows about her mindset and everything. If he said he awoke the Rinnegan, meaning he awoke the Rinnegan. No if or but.​

 

[Benjamin King]

It says right there. Mother possessed the ocular powers of the Sharingan and the Byakugan. No where does it say Rinnegan. :|

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Where does he say the eye itself is Sharingan? This is literally a basic English question. Except it's been stated that the eye is a Rinnegan multiple times:

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[Blunt]

Amaterasu wasit used because he's going to need the bijuu alive to break IT. sharingan genjutsu has always required eye contact where as sasuke didnt need that there it was rinne-genjutsu get over it and for more proof why wouldnt he just use a simple 3 tomoe genjutsu on sakura he whopped er with that rinne-genjutsu aswell

KA needs no eye contact, but that isn't relevant anyway. I'm saying why did it show Rinnegan when he used Amaterasu against Kaguya? Because his Rinnegan has the power of the Sharingan, hence the reason it has the tomoe in the first place. My point being is that, with Hagoromo's chakra amping up every ability (evident by his massive Amaterasu, bigger than normal when casted, his increased power with PS and so on.) His Genjutsu should logically be powered up as well, so obviously he can casually control the Biju.

His Rinnegan casts Sharingan jutsu, normal Rinnegan has yet to cast any Sharingan genjutsu/jutsu bar IT (Which he needed to awaken the third eye to do). Susano'o doesn't count because you only need to awaken it and you can use it forever going by showings.

 

[ANiMUS]

I read a manga that you can't comprehend basics.

Can you actually read English? Where does it say Kaguya has the Sharingan itself? It says she has the Sharingan's powers. NOWHERE DOES IT SAY IT IS A SHARINGAN.​

He wouldn't have used Genjutsu on them if he can make core-less CT. Literally no need to.​

Standard Rinnegan has Hagoromo's full Chakra. Half can't have the potential to surpass full.​

Except they are more than just Hagoromo. There is also the powers that they acquired before Hagoromo as well. Naruto has all of the bijuu chakra and Sasuke has both EMS and Hashirama cells. They have that in addition to the powers they were given by Hagoromo

 

[BLAZE]

I'll stop, but this sounds like two situations:
1) Dead Sasuke and Naruto revived with a power up.
2) BZ's betrayal.

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Deus ex machina (Latin: [ˈdeus eks ˈmaː.kʰi.na]: /ˈdeɪ.əs ɛks ˈmɑːkiːnə/ or /ˈdiːəs ɛks ˈmækɨnə/;[1] plural: dei ex machina) is a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object. Depending on how it is done, it can be intended to move the story forward when the writer has "painted himself into a corner" and sees no other way out, to surprise the audience, to bring the tale to a happy ending, or as a comedic device.

End Dues ex machina:

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I rest my case. [/QUOTE]


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Dat Autocorrect

 

[Benjamin King]

Now why would that be?

Because it is Rinnegan with Sharingan's power on it.​

Except he had it from the start and not even once was shown w/o it.

Your point being?​

Now why would you state so w/o any basis?

Addressed.​

Now this is just laughable.
Pressure points are size of tip of the needle which is way above nano scale THAT 3T is capable of seeing. You make a feat out of nothing here.

Madara failed to discriminate a clone from original later on thou. Basically he lied

Not relevant. The fact he could replicate a greater feat than even Byakugan, shows standard Rinnegan is stronger than what Sasuke's Rinnegan couldn't do.

Where did that happen?​

 

[Frikid]

Didn't i solo this thread in my first post which he ultimately failed to counter?

 

[Torche]

:snick:

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You failed twice at quoting, bro. Lol

There must always be a [start] tag, and an [/end] tag.

Yeah I red a bit. It had my first example. Lol

 

[Benjamin King]

Except they are more than just Hagoromo. There is also the powers that they acquired before Hagoromo as well. Naruto has all of the bijuu chakra and Sasuke has both EMS and Hashirama cells. They have that in addition to the powers they were given by Hagoromo

Hagoromo has Chakra of Bijuu and has power of Sharingan...Your invalid point being? Sasuke didn't have Hashirama's cells. Their additional powers are powers Hagoromo has and boosted it.​

 

[ANiMUS]

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Where does he say the eye itself is Sharingan? This is literally a basic English question. Except it's been stated that the eye is a Rinnegan multiple times:

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Except they never said Kaguya's eye was the Rinnegan. As I said when the sage named her powers he only said that she possessed the Ocular Powers of the Sharingan and the Byakugan. Rinnegan Genjutsu is genjutsu that can be cast on multiple targets like Sasuke did to the bijuu. If the Rinnegan came from the 9 Tomoes sharingan it would make sense that the sharingan would have its powers.

9 Tomoe Sharingan can use Rinnegan genjutsu. Big whoop. Kaguya's eye is red and Sasuke's is purple

Hagoromo has Chakra of Bijuu and has power of Sharingan...Your invalid point being? Sasuke didn't have Hashirama's cells. Their additional powers are powers Hagoromo has and boosted it.​

DUDE, I JUST GAVE U A SCAN TELLING U THAT KABUTO GAVE HASHIRAMA CELLS TO SASUKE. CAN U NOT READ?

My point isn't what Hagoromo has and what he doesn't. Its that they r more than what Hagoromo gave them. The body and the eyes are each half of Hagoromo's power yet Sasuke and Naruto have that half in addition to their own power

Basically its Sasuke + Half of Hagoromo's chakra> Half of Hagoromo

 

[Apêx1]

I disagree, to an extent. Sasuke's eyes have shown the ability to use the Rinnegan and EMS simultanously, which is probably greater than any lone Rinnegan technique. It has already been proven that the Rinnegan's preta path cannot be used with Susano simultaneously, even if the clones are the ones wielding the Susano, as Madara himself stated in the Viz. This implies the two do not correlate with each other in a fight. However, Sasuke has both eyes active all the time, and used his 9 tomoes to catch 9 Bijuu's in genjutsu, and then immediately used his Rinnegan to use a superior version of CT, implying the two dojutsu coinciding in one way or another. He may not get techniques like Limbo or Meteors, but he still gets overpowered techniques like swapping (inferior to limbo), but coupled with the EMS's simultaneous usage with the Rinnegan, he can create a superior battle style.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Not sure what you're grasping on...I brought a scan that says Kaguya has Sharingan's powers, not that her eye is the Sharingan. Correction number 1. Sharingan has tomoes in them, so if its added to the Rinnegan, it's going to give a design. This is obvious.​

What im grasping on the fact that, this thread is on the level of "Itachi solos and and is invincible?" cuz we have scan of Bullshit Zetsu saying so.

Dont you even see a contradiction in these two statements?

First of all Hagoromo never said kaguya had Sharingan's power to rinnegan but to byakugan, now in another translation he said besides byakugan she had sharingan on top, i guess only VIZ can save you from this one.

Now about design, madara has all his previous sharingan powers while with rinnegan, why the hell isnt design changed.

The simple fact that madara while having sharingan powers needed to open another eye to cast IT, the very same kaguya and sasuke are having shits on this thread.

It's more valid than listening to a mere member's fan-fic. And no, he doesn't need to be born after or before. He is Kaguya's will, meaning he knows about her mindset and everything. If he said he awoke the Rinnegan, meaning he awoke the Rinnegan. No if or but.​

There is no fanfic, you are victim of

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grasping at words rather then logic.

 

[BLAZE]

You failed twice at quoting, bro. Lol

There must always be a [start] tag, and an [/end] tag.

Yeah I red a bit. It had my first example. Lol

Oh lol
Autocorrect was on effect too :|
Tv tropes and idiom is hilariously awesome XD

 

[Benjamin King]

Except they never said Kaguya's eye was the Rinnegan. As I said when the sage named her powers he only said that she possessed the Ocular Powers of the Sharingan and the Byakugan. Rinnegan Genjutsu is genjutsu that can be cast on multiple targets like Sasuke did to the bijuu. If the Rinnegan came from the 9 Tomoes sharingan it would make sense that the sharingan would have its powers.

Sasuke: ''A Genjutsu created by the Rinnegan can probably be dispelled by Rinnegan''. Hagoromo didn't need to say it's a Rinnegan, when it's confirmed to be by Madara, Black Zetsu, and Sasuke.

9 Tomoe Sharingan can use Rinnegan genjutsu. Big whoop. Kaguya's eye is red and Sasuke's is purple

Not relevant.​

DUDE, I JUST GAVE U A SCAN TELLING U THAT KABUTO GAVE HASHIRAMA CELLS TO SASUKE. CAN U NOT READ?

He said healed him using Hashirama's cells.​

I disagree, to an extent. Sasuke's eyes have shown the ability to use the Rinnegan and EMS simultanously, which is probably greater than any lone Rinnegan technique. It has already been proven that the Rinnegan's preta path cannot be used with Susano simultaneously, even if the clones are the ones wielding the Susano, as Madara himself stated in the Viz. This implies the two do not correlate with each other in a fight. However, Sasuke has both eyes active all the time, and used his 9 tomoes to catch 9 Bijuu's in genjutsu, and then immediately used his Rinnegan to use a superior version of CT, implying the two dojutsu coinciding in one way or another. He may not get techniques like Limbo or Meteors, but he still gets overpowered techniques like swapping (inferior to limbo), but coupled with the EMS's simultaneous usage with the Rinnegan, he can create a superior battle style.

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The Viz said: ''My Susanoo kept me from absorbing Jinton properly''. The key word here is ''properly''. This means, that he still succeeded to absorb it, but Susanoo prevented him from successfully doing it. And Madara canonically absorbed Futon: Rasenshuriken while Susanoo was activated:

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He absorbed the Jutsu just before Susanoo faded away. And regardless of what, Susanoo is still EMS technique, which was used in conjunction with Rinnegan.​

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[Torche]

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Sasuke: ''A Genjutsu created by the Rinnegan can probably be dispelled by Rinnegan''. Hagoromo didn't need to say it's a Rinnegan, when it's confirmed to be by Madara, Black Zetsu, and Sasuke.

Not relevant.​

He said healed him using Hashirama's cells.​

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The Viz said: ''My Susanoo kept me from absorbing Jinton properly''. The key word here is ''properly''. This means, that he still succeeded to absorb it, but Susanoo prevented him from successfully doing it. And Madara canonically absorbed Futon: Rasenshuriken while Susanoo was activated:

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He absorbed the Jutsu just before Susanoo faded away. And regardless of what, Susanoo is still EMS technique, which was used in conjunction with Rinnegan.​

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I wouldn't count Susano'o like other MS doujutsu. It spawns from brain chakra as evident when both Itachi and Madara used it blind.

 

[BLAZE]

After recieving MS Sasuke has been using his Right Eye for genjutsu everytime but after gaining Rinnegan he suddenly starts using left Eye for it.Dat itself proves he is casting Rinnegan Genjutsu

 

[ANiMUS]

Sasuke: ''A Genjutsu created by the Rinnegan can probably be dispelled by Rinnegan''. Hagoromo didn't need to say it's a Rinnegan, when it's confirmed to be by Madara, Black Zetsu, and Sasuke.

Not relevant.​

He said healed him using Hashirama's cells.​

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The Viz said: ''My Susanoo kept me from absorbing Jinton properly''. The key word here is ''properly''. This means, that he still succeeded to absorb it, but Susanoo prevented him from successfully doing it. And Madara canonically absorbed Futon: Rasenshuriken while Susanoo was activated:

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He absorbed the Jutsu just before Susanoo faded away. And regardless of what, Susanoo is still EMS technique, which was used in conjunction with Rinnegan.​

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@bold #1 mistranslation
"Rinnegan genjutsu can be dealt with by using the Rinnegan"

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@bold #2 then what is being injected into Sasuke? :|

There were bits of flesh being injected into Sasuke?

 

[Benjamin King]

What im grasping on the fact that, this thread is on the level of ?Itachi solos and and is invincible? cuz we have scan of Bullshit Zetsu saying so.

So basically is...Your argument revolves around a character saying it means I won't believe him. If that's case, the don't bother coming to the manga section. It's facts directly from manga, and not fan-ficiton.​

Dont you even see a contradiction in these two statements?

Nope. Not seeing any contradiction.​

First of all Hagoromo never said kaguya had Sharingan's power to rinnegan but to byakugan, now in another translation he said besides byakugan she had sharingan on top, i guess only VIZ can save you from this one.

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''My mother possessed the power of Sharingan as well as Byakugan''. For the last fucking time, WHERE DOES HE SAY THE EYE IS SHARINGAN?​

Now about design, madara has all his previous sharingan power's while with rinnegan, why the hell isnt design changed.

Madara's Doujutsu powers aren't merged as one. He needs to switch between them to use their powers.​

The simple fact that madara while having sharingan powers needed to open another eye to cast IT, the very same kaguya and sasuke are having shits on this thread.

That makes no sense, at all.​