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Your post doesn't show that CT users are incapable of doing this. They didn't do that because there was no core to use instead of creating a core. Sasuke had cores to use, Nagato and Madara didn't. It's all dependent on the situation.​

Sasuke used the Bijuus as Cores why wouldnt Nagato use Naruto,Bee,Itachi, as his core or when he fought naruto with the pain body just Use Naruto as the core itself. conclusion Nagato does not have coreless chibaku tensei'
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There is no reason to assume that Madara couldn't have substituted the core like Sasuke. For the entire time that he was "fighting" Naruto and Sasuke he was simply trying to regain his second Rinnegan and cast MT.

Madara Made like 50 chibaku tensei's in they were island size he also made them in a few seconds he had a better chance at using each indivisual of team 7 as a core to potentially end them and even so Naruto & Sasuke bursting Sakura and Kakashi out of chibaku tensei would have been more taxing considering the own bodies would have been cores aswell this would also provide a better distraction for Sasuke not to notice IT so it could have ended Naruto.

Conclusion Madara also doesnt have coreless chibaku tensei's

Nowhere does it indicate it's Rinnegan Genjutsu he casted on the Biju, nor did I ever say Hagoromo's chakra amping it up changed the way it's executed, never.

it was a rinnegan Genjutsu Sharingan genjutsu requires eye contact Rinnegan doesnt unless you can prove otherwise
 
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Blazing storm and Unorthodox <-- first sentence bro.


It was never indicated to be Rinnegan genjutsu that he casted on the Biju.

Because he himself stated he needs the Bijuu to undo IT. Meaning he would most likely be using an entirely different genjutsu/jutsu in general than what he needed to control the Biju in the first place, controlling the bijuu doesn't equal undoing IT.
 
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Now why would that be?

Except he had it from the start and not even once was shown w/o it.

Now why would you state so w/o any basis?

1). Juubi's eye is stated to be Rinnegan > [ ] Black Zetsu calls it Rinnegan > [ ] Sasuke calls it Rinnegan > [ ]. What Hagoromo said is that Kaguya's eye had Sharingan's power. He never said the eye ITSELF is Sharingan. Is that clear enough for you?

2). Read chapter 682. And when you show me scan that says Hagoromo inherited the Rinnegan, your argument can once be valid. Until then, the manga is on my side.​
 

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Are you serious right now? What does Sasuke controlling the Biju with a Genjutsu have to do with IT and undoing it? He said he will use it when he finishes Naruto. Nowhere does it indicate he will use the same jutsu as before to undo it.
I was just answering this.Sharingan does not have 6 tomoe
Nowhere does it indicate it's Rinnegan Genjutsu he casted on the Biju, nor did I ever say Hagoromo's chakra amping it up changed the way it's executed, never.
 

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Sasuke's One Rinnegan CT with Nine Bijuus Was impressive for any single Rinnegan user and His Rinnegan Genjutsu was something no other Rinnegan user has shown btw :|
Exactly ^

Dude at least, for once, think before making a thread xD
and for the record, his rinnegan is more similar to juubi eye than the standard rinnegan...plus the teleportation...
 

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Madara Made like 50 chibaku tensei's in they were island size he also made them in a few seconds he had a better chance at using each indivisual of team 7 as a core to potentially end them and even so Naruto & Sasuke bursting Sakura and Kakashi out of chibaku tensei would have been more taxing considering the own bodies would have been cores aswell this would also provide a better distraction for Sasuke not to notice IT so it could have ended Naruto.

Madara cant use the cores get over it.

You're simply expecting too much. An antagonist win in Naruto, you must be out of your mind. Lol Naruto and Sasuke shouldn't have even been resurrected, but same principles apply; an antagonist simple cannot win, especially when Deus ex machina happens. Lol
 

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Sasuke used the Bijuus as Cores why wouldnt Nagato use Naruto,Bee,Itachi, as his core or when he fought naruto with the pain body just Use Naruto as the core itself. conclusion Nagato does not have coreless chibaku tensei'
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Because Nagato didn't use Genjutsu or made form of connection between him and the victim to use them as core. Whereas Sasuke's case, he made connection through Genjutsu.​

Not for me.They r just ur opinion

Then I can't help or save you.​

Grasping Straws i see

Scans that say it merged with Sasuke's Chakra? I'll wait. And learn what grasping straws means.​
 

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Blazing storm and Unorthodox <-- first sentence bro.


It was never indicated to be Rinnegan genjutsu that he casted on the Biju.

Because he himself stated he needs the Bijuu to undo IT. Meaning he would most likely be using an entirely different genjutsu/jutsu in general than what he needed to control the Biju in the first place, controlling the bijuu doesn't equal undoing IT.

Rinnegan does not changes Jutsu's effect as Shown with Amaterasu so it should have 3 tomoes.Sasuke has been till now using non Rinnegan eye for genjutsu after recieving MS
 
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I agree but sasuk's rinegan has potential to be stronger than standard rinegan as his is a hybrid of both great doujutsu's thanks to indra's soul and half of hago's chakra/power..
 

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You're simply expecting too much. An antagonist win in Naruto, you must be out of your mind. Lol Naruto and Sasuke shouldn't have even been resurrected, but same principles apply; an antagonist simple cannot win, especially when Deus ex machina happens. Lol

Just stawp you clearly have nothing else to say beside its plot excuse bye now.

Because Nagato didn't use Genjutsu or made form of connection between him and the victim to use them as core. Whereas Sasuke's case, he made connection through Genjutsu.​

when was it implyed a chakra connection must be made for his to use coreless Chibaku tensei,


Blazing storm and Unorthodox <-- first sentence bro.
It was never indicated to be Rinnegan genjutsu that he casted on the Biju.
Because he himself stated he needs the Bijuu to undo IT. Meaning he would most likely be using an entirely different genjutsu/jutsu in general than what he needed to control the Biju in the first place, controlling the bijuu doesn't equal undoing IT.

It was stated it was a rinnegan genjutsu when he used his rinnegan to cast the genjutsu instead of his sharingan.
 
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Correction: Kaguya's eye power is Rinnegan that has the Sharingan's power on top of it.​



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Tell that to Obito. Sasuke doesn't have the DNA of Senju nor has Ashura's power. Otherwise, he would have Naruto's power alongside his.​



Sasuke's Rinnegan is a product of Indra's Chakra:
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Seriously dude what manga r u reading.

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Of course Sasuke has senju dna and Kaguya's doujutsu is a Sharingan. These r viz Scans, Kaguya doesn't have the Rinnegan. The Rinnegan is a devolved form of her Sharingan.
 
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Just stawp you clearly have nothing else to say beside its plot excuse bye now.

I'll stop, but this sounds like two situations:
1) Dead Sasuke and Naruto revived with a power up.
2) BZ's betrayal.
Deus ex machina (Latin: [ˈdeus eks ˈmaː.kʰi.na]: /ˈdeɪ.əs ɛks ˈmɑːkiːnə/ or /ˈdiːəs ɛks ˈmækɨnə/;[1] plural: dei ex machina) is a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object. Depending on how it is done, it can be intended to move the story forward when the writer has "painted himself into a corner" and sees no other way out, to surprise the audience, to bring the tale to a happy ending, or as a comedic device.[/quote]

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I rest my case. :coffee:
 

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1). Juubi's eye is stated to be Rinnegan > [ ] Black Zetsu calls it Rinnegan > [ ] Sasuke calls it Rinnegan > [ ]. What Hagoromo said is that Kaguya's eye had Sharingan's power. He never said the eye ITSELF is Sharingan. Is that clear enough for you?
We're gonna go in circles because of stupid statements here, Hagoromo said it had sharingans power to it? Well no shit even madara had sharingan powers inbuilt in his rinnegan, yet he needed to open the third eye to cast IT like kaguya. So dont tell me it's all the same. Needless to mention that because of having sharingan power added to rinnegan it also different in design is it not?
2). Read chapter 682. And when you show me scan that says Hagoromo inherited the Rinnegan, your argument can once be valid. Until then, the manga is on my side.
BZ's argument is invalid that crap was born when hagoromo was grown and kicking his mother's ass, already with rinnegan and shit.
There is simply no way for BZ to know such detail, or should we believe that hiruzen was strongest cuz you know iruka said so?
 
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Just stawp you clearly have nothing else to say beside its plot excuse bye now.



when was it implyed a chakra connection must be made for his to use coreless Chibaku tensei,




It was stated it was a rinnegan genjutsu when he used his rinnegan to cast the genjutsu instead of his sharingan.

I guess since Amaterasu was used it wasn't a Sharingan jutsu, you know, because Rinnegan was shown instead of Sharingan. Tomoe Rinnegan has the Sharingan power, hence the reason it has tomoes in the first place. Other Rinnegan has yet to use Genjutsu.
 

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Ok,
1st Kaguya's power is the sharingan.
2nd Hagoromo was born with his rinnengan since he was shown having his rinnegan before becoming the Juubi jinchuuriki

You need senju dna in order to be able to handle the rinnengan and the senju are descendants of Ashura. So in fact Sasuke does have the power of Ashura and Indra.

Sasuke's Rinnegan is the product of Ashura and Indra's chakra with the addition of Hagoromo's Rikudou chakra.

The thought of The Six Tomoe Rinnegan<normal Rinnegan is your opinion.

and to explain why he only has one rinegan is simply because he has has hago's power stored in his dominant side where he has rinegan and the tomo's are from being indras holder (The dracula of Sharingan)
 

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Fully agree and to explain why he only has one rinegan is simply became he has has hago's power stored in his dominant side where he has rinegan and the tomo's are from being indras holder (The dracula of Sharingan)

Well, that and the superior doujutsu (9 Tomoe sharingan) is focused in one eye so that made it really convenient for Kishimoto. This just hints more to Sasuke's eye being a hybrid of the 9 Tomoe sharingan and the Rinnegan.
 

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Seriously dude what manga r u reading.

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Of course Sasuke has senju dna and Kaguya's doujutsu is a Sharingan. These r viz Scans, Kaguya doesn't have the Rinnegan. The Rinnegan is a devolved form of her Sharingan.

I read a manga that you can't comprehend basics.

Can you actually read English? Where does it say Kaguya has the Sharingan itself? It says she has the Sharingan's powers. NOWHERE DOES IT SAY IT IS A SHARINGAN.​


when was it implyed a chakra connection must be made for his to use coreless Chibaku tensei,

He wouldn't have used Genjutsu on them if he can make core-less CT. Literally no need to.​

I agree but sasuk's rinegan has potential to be stronger than standard rinegan as his is a hybrid of both great doujutsu's thanks to indra's soul and half of hago's chakra/power..

Standard Rinnegan has Hagoromo's full Chakra. Half can't have the potential to surpass full.​
 
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