Why isn't Sasuke using genjutsu on Naruto?

[frozen5]

Even ms Tobi enslaved a prefect jin for years. So 1-2-3-4 is not relevant nor accurate

haha haha thats funny... good one... how exactly... does that make my points invalid?

you too should read the manga... if the jin is under genjutsu and the bijuu doesnt want to break it... its GG

wether its perfect or not... being a perfect jin just means you can draw on the chakra anytime you want... doesnt mean the damn chakra acts on its own..

plus.... how do we even know he was still a jin? you mean obito had this jin all along and didnt extract it....

 

[TrollKing]

haha haha thats funny... good one... how exactly... does that make my points invalid?

you too should read the manga... if the jin is under genjutsu and the bijuu doesnt want to break it... its GG

wether its perfect or not... being a perfect jin just means you can draw on the chakra anytime you want... doesnt mean the damn chakra acts on its own..

plus.... how do we even know he was still a jin? you mean obito had this jin all along and didnt extract it....

Being perfect jin means you tnj a biju and succeeded. Most cases, a jin stays a jin as long as he alive except manga stated exception.

Why not make use of the biju when he couldn't even touch the rest?!

 

[frozen5]

Being perfect jin means you tnj a biju and succeeded. Most cases, a jin stays a jin as long as he alive except manga stated exception.

Why not make use of the biju when he couldn't even touch the rest?!

thanks for the obvious....
first scenario:

any capable sharingan user can look into a seal and put a bijuu under genjutsu thus disabling the jin from being able to break their genjutsu.

second:

yagura died in that fight and obito got control of his body soemhow... thus the 3 tails was regenrated in the wild

third:

the was a white zetsu..

none of them... relates, counters or even oppose my argument.. because once again... naruto has no seal for which sasuke to get contact with his bijuus

try again

 

[TrollKing]

thanks for the obvious....
first scenario:

any capable sharingan user can look into a seal and put a bijuu under genjutsu thus disabling the jin from being able to break their genjutsu.

second:

yagura died in that fight and obito got control of his body soemhow... thus the 3 tails was regenrated in the wild

third:

the was a white zetsu..

none of them... relates, counters or even oppose my argument.. because once again... naruto has no seal for which sasuke to get contact with his bijuus

try again

So you saying obito didn't and couldnt put a jin in genjutsu??

Are you saying any capable sharingan user can disable a jin from breaking the genjutsu??

What does wz has anything to do here??

 

[frozen5]

So you saying obito didn't and couldnt put a jin in genjutsu??

Are you saying any capable sharingan user can disable a jin from breaking the genjutsu??

What does wz has anything to do here??

failure to understand is understandable

im saying stop putting naruto in a regular jin's shoes.... he aint got no seal and he got perfect chakra control with 9 bijuus in his chakra system

 

[TrollKing]

failure to understand is understandable

im saying stop putting naruto in a regular jin's shoes.... he aint got no seal and he got perfect chakra control with 9 bijuus in his chakra system

I'm not, you need to raise naruto jin level while raising sasky eye level comparably to them fodder eye jutsu

Oh well actually bijuus will always be bijuus, their power will always be as op Lol

 

[shadowcb]

1. Bijuus are not weak in genjutsu. Even genins know genjutsu. That doesn't mean konohamaru can one shot biju

2. Naruto was never good at genjutsu throughout 694 chapters. He can tell sakura in genjutsu, perhaps its because she dropped dead all of a sudden while sensed sasuke already used his power on sakura?!

3. Linking all biju chakra with naruto only makes the job easier, so sasky kun can one shot all chakra at one go

1. I'm talking about eye power genjutsu. Madara and Obito was able to perfectly suppress and control the tail beast with a normal sharingan. Itachi told us the sharingan has the power to control tail beast.

2. I'm talking about Naruto's ability to defeat genjutsu. He was taught how to defeat genjutsu and that method hasn't changed, but Naruto's skill has. He now has perfect control over his chakra and all of the tail beast chakra. He is able to link to all of the tail beast simultaneously and combine them together with natural energy and create sage senjutsu. Just because Sakura faint doesn't mean she was placed in a genjuts. Kishi had Naruto tell us Sasuke used a genjutsu to show his improvement. Kishi is just being more subtle with Naruto's improvemtns than with Sasuke.

3. If Naruto is linking to all of the tail beast chakra simultaneously and have their chakra flow in and out of his chakra it would be impossible for Sasuke to place him in a genjutsu because the moment he tried to control Naruto's chakra a different chakra would combine with Naruto's cancelling the genjutsu.

 

[TrollKing]

1. I'm talking about eye power genjutsu. Madara and Obito was able to perfectly suppress and control the tail beast with a normal sharingan. Itachi told us the sharingan has the power to control tail beast.

2. I'm talking about Naruto's ability to defeat genjutsu. He was taught how to defeat genjutsu and that method hasn't changed, but Naruto's skill has. He now has perfect control over his chakra and all of the tail beast chakra. He is able to link to all of the tail beast simultaneously and combine them together with natural energy and create sage senjutsu. Just because Sakura faint doesn't mean she was placed in a genjuts. Kishi had Naruto tell us Sasuke used a genjutsu to show his improvement. Kishi is just being more subtle with Naruto's improvemtns than with Sasuke.

3. If Naruto is linking to all of the tail beast chakra simultaneously and have their chakra flow in and out of his chakra it would be impossible for Sasuke to place him in a genjutsu because the moment he tried to control Naruto's chakra a different chakra would combine with Naruto's cancelling the genjutsu.

2. Naruto never good at anything related to genjutsu. You need some scans to back to up seriously

3. Since all chakra stays together, saving sasky kun the trouble to look for them, he can just one shot them all like he did to all Bijus

 

[TakeoSusumu]

Sasuke will definitely win. If Uchihas taught us anything is that one on one is a piece of cake. they much rather go against an army...

[video=vimeo;73994281]http://vimeo.com/73994281[/video]

 

[shadowcb]

2. Naruto never good at anything related to genjutsu. You need some scans to back to up seriously

3. Since all chakra stays together, saving sasky kun the trouble to look for them, he can just one shot them all like he did to all Bijus

2. You should stop talking like you fully understand Naruto's skills in genjutsu because don't. Nobody knows how skilled he has become in that area.

- We know he was taught how to defeat genjutsu and that method hasn't changed.

- We know that Naruto has perfect control over his chakra and all of the tail beast chakra. He is able to link to all of the tail beast simultaneously and combine them together with natural energy and create sage senjutsu.

- We know he was able to easily tell when Sakura was in a genjutsu in his base mode.

- Back near the beginning of part 2 when Itachi placed Naruto in genjutsu he had to attack Naruto emotions to stop him from defeating the genjutsu.

Itachi has Naruto in genjutsu -

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3. So you are saying Sasuke all of a sudden has the ability to control chakra that's being constantly being combine with other chakra and he can find and control multiple chakra inside one person simultaneously. OK....Whatever.

Genjutsu that can control multiple people/creates is nothing new, but that doesn't mean that genjuts can control multiple chakra in one person. Especially if that person has full control over all of his charka and is able to link and combine the chakra together and flow the chakra in and out of each other.

Obito was able to perfectly suppress and control the tail beast and he was able to control Danzo's henchmen simultaneously, yet he couldn't do that to Naruto.

 

[TrollKing]

2. You should stop talking like you fully understand Naruto's skills in genjutsu because don't. Nobody knows how skilled he has become in that area.

- We know he was taught how to defeat genjutsu and that method hasn't changed.

- We know that Naruto has perfect control over his chakra and all of the tail beast chakra. He is able to link to all of the tail beast simultaneously and combine them together with natural energy and create sage senjutsu.

- We know he was able to easily tell when Sakura was in a genjutsu in his base mode.

- Back near the beginning of part 2 when Itachi placed Naruto in genjutsu he had to attack Naruto emotions to stop him from defeating the genjutsu.

Itachi has Naruto in genjutsu -

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Naruto relies on his training and began to defeat the genjutsu -

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Itachi switch tactics and attacks Naruto's emotions to stop him from defeating it -

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3. So you are saying Sasuke all of a sudden has the ability to control chakra that's being constantly being combine with other chakra and he can find and control multiple chakra inside one person simultaneously. OK....Whatever.

Genjutsu that can control multiple people/creates is nothing new, but that doesn't mean that genjuts can control multiple chakra in one person. Especially if that person has full control over all of his charka and is able to link and combine the chakra together and flow the chakra in and out of each other.

Obito was able to perfectly suppress and control the tail beast and he was able to control Danzo's henchmen simultaneously, yet he couldn't do that to Naruto.

1. Naruto has zero feat in part 1, zero feat in part 2. Now you seem to expect him to go from zero to God level

2. 9 = 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1

Separate or not, the resulting number and contents are the same

One shot all biju separately is not much different than one shot all together

9 = 9 = 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 3x3 = 9x1

The outcome is the same because the properties are the same

 

[TrollKing]

2. You should stop talking like you fully understand Naruto's skills in genjutsu because don't. Nobody knows how skilled he has become in that area.

- We know he was taught how to defeat genjutsu and that method hasn't changed.

- We know that Naruto has perfect control over his chakra and all of the tail beast chakra. He is able to link to all of the tail beast simultaneously and combine them together with natural energy and create sage senjutsu.

- We know he was able to easily tell when Sakura was in a genjutsu in his base mode.

- Back near the beginning of part 2 when Itachi placed Naruto in genjutsu he had to attack Naruto emotions to stop him from defeating the genjutsu.

Itachi has Naruto in genjutsu -

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Naruto relies on his training and began to defeat the genjutsu -

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Itachi switch tactics and attacks Naruto's emotions to stop him from defeating it -

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to

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3. So you are saying Sasuke all of a sudden has the ability to control chakra that's being constantly being combine with other chakra and he can find and control multiple chakra inside one person simultaneously. OK....Whatever.

Genjutsu that can control multiple people/creates is nothing new, but that doesn't mean that genjuts can control multiple chakra in one person. Especially if that person has full control over all of his charka and is able to link and combine the chakra together and flow the chakra in and out of each other.

Obito was able to perfectly suppress and control the tail beast and he was able to control Danzo's henchmen simultaneously, yet he couldn't do that to Naruto.

1. Naruto has zero feat in part 1, zero feat in part 2. Now you seem to expect him to go from zero to God level

2. 9 = 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1

Separate or not, the resulting number and contents are the same

One shot all biju separately is not much different than one shot all together

9 = 9 = 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 3x3 = 9x1

The outcome is the same because the properties are the same

 

[TrollingSage]

Even ms Tobi enslaved a prefect jin for years. So 1-2-3-4 is not relevant nor accurate

Yagura was never confirmed a perfect jin. Infact there's more proof against him being a perfect jin than for.

 

[shadowcb]

1. Naruto has zero feat in part 1, zero feat in part 2. Now you seem to expect him to go from zero to God level

2. 9 = 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1

Separate or not, the resulting number and contents are the same

One shot all biju separately is not much different than one shot all together

9 = 9 = 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 3x3 = 9x1

The outcome is the same because the properties are the same

Wow. You are too funny with your BS. You tell me to support what I say, but you don't want to do the same. You just completely ignored my post and posted BS. I know you're mad, but is ok.

1. I proved how Itachi had to switch tactics and attacks Naruto's emotions to stop him from defeating his genjutsu. That's proves Naruto's skills in genjutsu in early part 2. If Naruto's wasn't skilled at all than Itachi (one of the best genjutsu users) won't have needed to switch tactics.

2. Your math means nothing. Like I said and I will continue to say being able to control a tail beast with genjutsu doesn't mean he can do the same to Naruto. Madara and Obito were able to perfectly suppress and control the tail beast, yet they couldn't do that to Naruto. Based on your post Madara and Obito should have been able to easily control Naruto with their eye jutsu.

3. There is a difference between controlling multiple people/creates who each have one type of chakra than controlling one person how has who has multiple chakra types in their body and they have full control over all of their charka types.

4. Naruto in very first chapter of the manga Naruto went from being unable to properly perform the clone jutsu to being able to skillfully perform the multiple shadow clones jutsu (jounin level jutsu). The manga proved Naruto can turn his weakness into his strength.

Naruto was taught how to defeat genjutsu and that method hasn't changed. He now has perfect control over his chakra and all of the tail beast chakra. He could tell when Sakura was placed in a genjuts. Things are different now.

 

[Jimihendrix]

It won't work.

sir derp hath spoken. sir derp is law

 

[TrollKing]

Wow. You are too funny with your BS. You tell me to support what I say, but you don't want to do the same. You just completely ignored my post and posted BS. I know you're mad, but is ok.

1. I proved how Itachi had to switch tactics and attacks Naruto's emotions to stop him from defeating his genjutsu. That's proves Naruto's skills in genjutsu in early part 2. If Naruto's wasn't skilled at all than Itachi (one of the best genjutsu users) won't have needed to switch tactics.

2. Your math means nothing. Like I said and I will continue to say being able to control a tail beast with genjutsu doesn't mean he can do the same to Naruto. Madara and Obito were able to perfectly suppress and control the tail beast, yet they couldn't do that to Naruto. Based on your post Madara and Obito should have been able to easily control Naruto with their eye jutsu.

3. There is a difference between controlling multiple people/creates who each have one type of chakra than controlling one person how has who has multiple chakra types in their body and they have full control over all of their charka types.

4. Naruto in very first chapter of the manga Naruto went from being unable to properly perform the clone jutsu to being able to skillfully perform the multiple shadow clones jutsu (jounin level jutsu). The manga proved Naruto can turn his weakness into his strength.

Naruto was taught how to defeat genjutsu and that method hasn't changed. He now has perfect control over his chakra and all of the tail beast chakra. He could tell when Sakura was placed in a genjuts. Things are different now.

1. Itachi stomped naruto in theory and in action, itachi was not fighting naruto, he was saving naruto, heck even gave naruto ka Lol

2. Math is logic and truth, denying math and repeat same thing doesn't help. And yes obito and madara should have done something. Heck even menma was trying to drag nine tails out

3. I don't see any difference between one shot all nine people and one shot all nine people who are holding hands together, the difference is so small that's insignificant

4. Naruto trained the whole chapter for clones. On genjutsu, is zero for 694 chapters

5. You succeeded, and I'm very very very mad Lol

 

[Ultimateone]

when Bee was put in a genjutsu the next panel he annihilated sasuke. naruto has portions of all the bijuu inside him, it would be such a waste of time.

 

[TrollKing]

when Bee was put in a genjutsu the next panel he annihilated sasuke. naruto has portions of all the bijuu inside him, it would be such a waste of time.

Since naruto has portion of all, he would break ms sasuke genjutsu slightly faster than bee Chan

 

[Trea]

I think Sasuke wants to beat Naruto fair and square. He said before he considers Naruto to have been his only friend. I think he believes he can beat him without that. As the fight goes on and he realizes Naruto will not be so easy to beat he might try that. He is not trying to kill Naruto out of hatred, he says he's doing it to prove he can break all ties and I'm sure being a jinchuriki is part of it too.

They both seem to think that they can stop the other. I think as they realize that is not true, more extreme measures will be taken and eventually they will use their SO6P powers.

 

[Korowa]

Maybe he isn't able to, plus genjutsu isn't really Sasuke's style. Or, maybe he solos with it and Kishimoto is just nerfing him for the plot.