Why isn't Sasuke using genjutsu on Naruto?

[UzumakiWade]

Agree your opinion which is:

1. Ms >>>>> sharinnegan

2. Control perfect jin >>>>>>>>>>> 1 shot all biju with a glance

XD

1. So just because Sasuke has a better eye it means every single technique that he uses must be better than everyone elses? Itachi had MS and his genjutsu is better than current Sasuke's.

2. It is stated that Jinchuriki are more powerful than Bijuu. BM Naruto vs Kurama, BM Naruto wins obviously right?

 

[TrollKing]

1. So just because Sasuke has a better eye it means every single technique that he uses must be better than everyone elses? Itachi had MS and his genjutsu is better than current Sasuke's.

2. It is stated that Jinchuriki are more powerful than Bijuu. BM Naruto vs Kurama, BM Naruto wins obviously right?

1."better" is an understatement obviously. Itachi better than sharinnegan genjutsu?!!!!!!! Omg Lol

2. All biju >>>>>>>>> 1 jin(if you believe 1 jin stomp all biju/jubi, I give up)

 

[UzumakiWade]

1."better" is an understatement obviously

2. All biju >>>>>>>>> 1 jin(if you believe 1 jin stomp all biju/jubi, I give up)

1. Yes i agree, Itachi's genjutsu was leagues above Sasuke's

2. although, if that jin had each of the bijuu's powers then he could beat them. BM Naruto was soloing 5 bijuu, whats stopping Current Naruto who has all their powers, from beating them?

 

[Ansatsuken]

If you are saying sasuke can genjutsu naruto before the bijuu can realize it, I will have to disagree.

Yes, I know Bijuu can realize a different in jin chakra or any outside or non familiar occurrence or chakra terbulance whatsoever.

But although they aware of it. the speed of the Ganjutsu attack is faster than they act to snap off the genjutsu chakra.

The speed of genjutsu attack that Sasuke give to Sakura is near instant. And after that she is KO.

 

[xxSAGExx]

I don't need explanation, even ms obito can control perfect jin perfectly

Problem with that is that if Obito was controlling Yagura when he was a perfect Jinchuuriki then why didn't he have the 3 tails? Why did he have to hunt it down with Deidara years later? Either Yagura wasn't a perfect Jinchuuriki at that time, it happened before Yagaru was a even a Jinchuuriki or there's some special conditions Obito had to do.

If Obito could have controlled perfect Jinchuurikis no problem then he would have tried suppressing Kurama's power or try to control Naruto when they fought.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Cant we just be happy of some awesome incoming(probably) taijutsu?

Sasuke not using bijus to own nardo already is plot.

 

[TrollKing]

1. Yes i agree, Itachi's genjutsu was leagues above Sasuke's

2. although, if that jin had each of the bijuu's powers then he could beat them. BM Naruto was soloing 5 bijuu, whats stopping Current Naruto who has all their powers, from beating them?

1. Itachi never did and will never one shot all biju. That's scene only exists in itachi fan's dream

2. You just said nine tail solo them biju/jin, perhaps because they are weak compare to nine tails?? Now add those weak power, how small power they gonna get??

Here's a math problem: let's say nine tails is 80 > the rest which is 20

Now 80 + 20 = 100. 100 is as close as 80 as you can see. Lol

 

[UzumakiWade]

1. Itachi never did and will never one shot all biju. That's scene only exists in itachi fan

2. You just said nine tail solo them biju/jin, perhaps because they are weak compare to nine tails?? Now add those weak power, how small power they gonna get??

Here's a math problem: let's say nine tails is 80 > the rest which is 20

Now 80 + 20 = 100. 100 is as close as 80 as you can see. Lol

1. Okay... whatever floats your boat i guess?

2. @Bold, You do read the manga don't you? Naruto has all the tailed beasts chakra and also that's just your assumption, we don't know how much chakra he has from the tailed beasts so it could be more than 20. Either way, its obvious by feats that Current Naruto could beat all the bijuu. Unless you really believe the bijuu win which in that case i won't be able to convince you any more.

 

[TrollKing]

1. Okay... whatever floats your boat i guess?

2. @Bold, You do read the manga don't you? Naruto has all the tailed beasts chakra and also that's just your assumption, we don't know how much chakra he has from the tailed beasts so it could be more than 20. Either way, its obvious by feats that Current Naruto could beat all the bijuu. Unless you really believe the bijuu win which in that case i won't be able to convince you any more.

Obito took out a small portion, which allow madara still maintain
almost full strength. 20% is apparently more than what taken from madara and madara still brushed it off the shoulder like nothing and his performance was indeed unshaken.

20% or rather 10% >>>>>>> 80-90% is plot hole. An illogical forced assessment. So of course naruto >>>>>> all biju. I won't be surprised if naruto >>>>> kaguya + so6p + sasuke. All naruto needs in order to win all battles is have his name stick to the title Lol

 

[xxSAGExx]

Cant we just be happy of some awesome incoming(probably) taijutsu?

Sasuke not using bijus to own nardo already is plot.

That's you spectulating that Sasuke can perfectly control them. Kurama was still able to talk to Naruto so Sasuke didn't have them under his full control so at most he was only able to immobilize their movements. When Madara and Obito controlled Bijuus they couldn't talk at all, they had no control over they body at all but still knew what they were doing but couldn't talk. Kurama talking shows Sasuje couldn't use them in a fight unless he actually begins to do so but you're spectulating that he can. That's like me saying Naruto can connect to the full Bijuus with the portions of chakra he has inside him and instantly break them out of the genjutsu but didn't yet because like Sasuke he's getting use to his powers. So I can blame plot too

 

[Sharingan King]

Lol, Naruto has 9 bijuus in him, it would probably be waaay less time than 2-3 seconds and anything less then 2 seconds is too fast for Sasuke to solo.



Same as what i said to the guy above.

If an inexperienced MS Sasuke can put a perfect jin in a genjutsu for 2-3 seconds then imagine what a Sharinnegan can do. 3 tomo Sasuke can suppress Kurama's powers and sharinnegan solo'd 9 bijuu at the same time.

Sasuke can easily place Naruto and his 9 pals in a genjutsu at the same time. He can just hop into Nardo's mind and solo the tailed beasts with genjutsu.

Plus, more bijuu =\= faster genjustu counter. The speed at which the genjustu is broken is the speed at which your fastest partner can disrupt your chakra.

Analogy: Imagine that I am caught in a genjutsu and I have 9 friends to break me free. The first friend to disrupt my chakra is the one who breaks the genjutsu. The 8 other friends in this scenario are meaningless because the genjustu was broken by the fastest friend.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Obito took out a small portion, which allow madara still maintain
almost full strength. 20% is apparently more than what taken from madara and madara still brushed it off the shoulder like nothing and his performance was indeed unshaken.

20% or rather 10% >>>>>>> 80-90% is plot hole. An illogical forced assessment. So of course naruto >>>>>> all biju. I won't be surprised if naruto >>>>> kaguya + so6p + sasuke. All naruto needs in order to win all battles is have his name stick to the title Lol

So basically, you think Kurama can solo all the other bijuu alone?
Okay, either way that helps my case.

Although... now that i think about it, didn't Naruto only have half of Kurama's chakra? that means that Kurama's chakra inside Naruto is only 50 % which means all the other bijuu's chakra equals to another 50% right?

 

[TrollKing]

That's you spectulating that Sasuke can perfectly control them. Kurama was still able to talk to Naruto so Sasuke didn't have them under his full control so at most he was only able to immobilize their movements. When Madara and Obito controlled Bijuus they couldn't talk at all, they had no control over they body at all but still knew what they were doing but couldn't talk. Kurama talking shows Sasuje couldn't use them in a fight unless he actually begins to do so but you're spectulating that he can. That's like me saying Naruto can connect to the full Bijuus with the portions of chakra he has inside him and instantly break them out of the genjutsu but didn't yet because like Sasuke he's getting use to his powers. So I can blame plot too

So basically, you think Kurama can solo all the other bijuu alone?
Okay, either way that helps my case.

Although... now that i think about it, didn't Naruto only have half of Kurama's chakra? that means that Kurama's chakra inside Naruto is only 50 % which means all the other bijuu's chakra equals to another 50% right?

To help your case, nine tails is about 80% of jubi power

 

[ShiroT]

Let me tell you all one thing. Tailed beasts release the genjutsu. It's not instant.

Sasuke can do a deadly genjutsu in an instant like he did with sakura.

By the time it's released, Naruto would've fainted already.

OT: PnJ

sakura's weak. kakashi was tortured for what years? he didnt pass out

 

[UzumakiWade]

If an inexperienced MS Sasuke can put a perfect jin in a genjutsu for 2-3 seconds then imagine what a Sharinnegan can do. 3 tomo Sasuke can suppress Kurama's powers and sharinnegan solo'd 9 bijuu at the same time.

Sasuke can easily place Naruto and his 9 pals in a genjutsu at the same time. He can just hop into Nardo's mind and solo the tailed beasts with genjutsu.

Plus, more bijuu =\= faster genjustu counter. The speed at which the genjustu is broken is the speed at which your fastest partner can disrupt your chakra.

Analogy: Imagine that I am caught in a genjutsu and I have 9 friends to break me free. The first friend to disrupt my chakra is the one who breaks the genjutsu. The 8 other friends in this scenario are meaningless because the genjustu was broken by the fastest friend.

Although the way to disrupt genjutsu is to overpower the caster's chakra with your own, and since there are 9 chakras inside Naruto that would mean that the genjutsu would be interrupted quicker since Sasuke's chakra would be overpowered easier thus meaning Naruto would be freed faster.

So judging by how genjutsu is supposed to be broken, lets take in your analogy, what if all 9 friends were helping to break the genjutsu? Since there are multiple people the genjutsu has a chance of being broken at a faster rate.

Now lets take in another analogy, lets say that 9 race car drivers are racing against 1 biker.

Lets say all the race cars and the bike are all at mach 30.

But what if the race car drivers combine their cars together, it would be improved and thus faster so instead of being mach 30, the race car drivers combined car would be mach 180 vs the biker who's speed is mach 30. Now since the race drivers car speed is faster, wouldn't that mean the car would get to the finish line faster than it would if it was still at mach 30?

 

[TrollKing]

Although the way to disrupt genjutsu is to overpower the caster's chakra with your own, and since there are 9 chakras inside Naruto that would mean that the genjutsu would be interrupted quicker since Sasuke's chakra would be overpowered easier thus meaning Naruto would be freed faster.

So judging by how genjutsu is supposed to be broken, lets take in your analogy, what if all 9 friends were helping to break the genjutsu? Since there are multiple people the genjutsu has a chance of being broken at a faster rate.

Now lets take in another analogy, lets say that 9 race car drivers are racing against 1 biker.

Lets say all the race cars and the bike are all at mach 30.

But what if the race car drivers combine their cars together, it would be improved and thus faster so instead of being mach 30, the race car drivers combined car would be mach 180 vs the biker who's speed is mach 30. Now since the race drivers car speed is faster, wouldn't that mean the car would get to the finish line faster than it would if it was still at mach 30?

You are right (that only apply on genjutsu of weak levels)

 

[shadowcb]

If an inexperienced MS Sasuke can put a perfect jin in a genjutsu for 2-3 seconds then imagine what a Sharinnegan can do. 3 tomo Sasuke can suppress Kurama's powers and sharinnegan solo'd 9 bijuu at the same time.

Sasuke can easily place Naruto and his 9 pals in a genjutsu at the same time. He can just hop into Nardo's mind and solo the tailed beasts with genjutsu.

Plus, more bijuu =\= faster genjustu counter. The speed at which the genjustu is broken is the speed at which your fastest partner can disrupt your chakra.

Analogy: Imagine that I am caught in a genjutsu and I have 9 friends to break me free. The first friend to disrupt my chakra is the one who breaks the genjutsu. The 8 other friends in this scenario are meaningless because the genjustu was broken by the fastest friend.

Sasuke being able to place the tail beast in a genjutsu doesn't mean he can do the same to Naruto. Tail Beast have always been weak to eye base genjutsu. Madara and Obito was able to perfectly suppress and control the tail beast, yet they couldn't do that to Naruto. Obito shows us it's possible with eye jutsu to create a perfect jinchuuriki. Like he did with Jinchuuriki 2 to 7.

Nobody know how powerful Naruto is in genjutsu. We know he was able to easily tell when Sakura was in a genjutsu in his base mode. He has experience dealing with Itachi's genjutsu. One of the best genjutsu users in the manga. He is the first person in the manga to possess all of the 9 tails beast individual chakra. He has perfect control over his chakra and all of the tail beast chakra. He is able to link to all of the tail beast simultaneously and combine them together with natural energy and create sage senjutsu. There is nothing proving Naruto can't defeat genjutsu on his own with needing a tail beast to free him or if he can even be placed in a genjutsu.

How would Sasuke be able to place Naruto is a genjutsu if Naruto is linking to all of the tail beast chakra simultaneously and have their chakra flow in and out of his chakra. Sasuke wouldn't be able to place him in genjutsu because the moment he tried to control Naruto's chakra a different chakra would combine with Naruto's cancelling the genjutsu.

 

[TrollKing]

Sasuke being able to place the tail beast in a genjutsu doesn't mean he can do the same to Naruto. Tail Beast have always been weak to eye base genjutsu. Madara and Obito was able to perfectly suppress and control the tail beast, yet they couldn't do that to Naruto. Obito shows us it's possible with eye jutsu to create a perfect jinchuuriki. Like he did with Jinchuuriki 2 to 7.

Nobody know how powerful Naruto is in genjutsu. We know he was able to easily tell when Sakura was in a genjutsu in his base mode. He has experience dealing with Itachi's genjutsu. One of the best genjutsu users in the manga. He is the first person in the manga to possess all of the 9 tails beast individual chakra. He has perfect control over his chakra and all of the tail beast chakra. He is able to link to all of the tail beast simultaneously and combine them together with natural energy and create sage senjutsu. There is nothing proving Naruto can't defeat genjutsu on his own with needing a tail beast to free him or if he can even be placed in a genjutsu.

How would Sasuke be able to place Naruto is a genjutsu if Naruto is linking to all of the tail beast chakra simultaneously and have their chakra flow in and out of his chakra. Sasuke wouldn't be able to place him in genjutsu because the moment he tried to control Naruto's chakra a different chakra would combine with Naruto's cancelling the genjutsu.

1. Bijuus are not weak in genjutsu. Even genins know genjutsu. That doesn't mean konohamaru can one shot biju

2. Naruto was never good at genjutsu throughout 694 chapters. He can tell sakura in genjutsu, perhaps its because she dropped dead all of a sudden while sensed sasuke already used his power on sakura?!

3. Linking all biju chakra with naruto only makes the job easier, so sasky kun can one shot all chakra at one go

 

[frozen5]

If an inexperienced MS Sasuke can put a perfect jin in a genjutsu for 2-3 seconds then imagine what a Sharinnegan can do. 3 tomo Sasuke can suppress Kurama's powers and sharinnegan solo'd 9 bijuu at the same time.

Sasuke can easily place Naruto and his 9 pals in a genjutsu at the same time. He can just hop into Nardo's mind and solo the tailed beasts with genjutsu.

Plus, more bijuu =\= faster genjustu counter. The speed at which the genjustu is broken is the speed at which your fastest partner can disrupt your chakra.

Analogy: Imagine that I am caught in a genjutsu and I have 9 friends to break me free. The first friend to disrupt my chakra is the one who breaks the genjutsu. The 8 other friends in this scenario are meaningless because the genjustu was broken by the fastest friend.

1. read the manga and stop scanning through pannels to see sasuke

2. if you had read the manga you would have known sasuke cannot "hop into naruto's mind" because he looked into the seal

3. the bijuus are literally inside naruto's chakra system there aint no seal to peer into

4. A. naruto's sennin is on a level he can sense anything and know everything thats going on with chakra
B. the 9 bijuus have simeltaneaous control and flow in naruto's chakra which means sasuke probaly cant even put him under a genjutsu... so you cant break what you're not under

 

[TrollKing]

1. read the manga and stop scanning through pannels to see sasuke

2. if you had read the manga you would have known sasuke cannot "hop into naruto's mind" because he looked into the seal

3. the bijuus are literally inside naruto's chakra system there aint no seal to peer into

4. A. naruto's sennin is on a level he can sense anything and know everything thats going on with chakra
B. the 9 bijuus have simeltaneaous control and flow in naruto's chakra which means sasuke probaly cant even put him under a genjutsu... so you cant break what you're not under

Even ms Tobi enslaved a prefect jin for years. So 1-2-3-4 is not relevant nor accurate