Your probably ignoring it when people mention comparing Tobirama reacting to Juubito to Minato reacting to Juubito.
I already countered that argument in this same thread. Tobirama reacted to mindless V1 Jubito. Minato reacted to brain version 2 Jubito. Minato's feat is greater because he faced a superior opponent. Mindless Jubito isn't as fast and perceptive as brain version 2 Jubito who was outpacing both EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto in speed. Mindless Jubito's speed was blocked by Minato and his clone despite being a sneak attack however
As for the rest of your posts, there are too many assumptions around there
1- You assume edo papers aren't already explosive papers, but just react to something
2- You assume Tobirama didn't just mixed one explosive paper inside the whole lot of paper responsible in the activation of the jutsu(reason why he punch his hand right inside his chest)
3- You assume other Edo tensei users couldn't do that and that it's only Tobirama who can, ignoring the possibility that they simply lacked knowledge on it
4- You assume the paper in which the edos are made are similar to normal paper bombs
Also if Tobirama could use it without edos, why create edos for that?
Besides, doesn't that mean any fodders could replicate that feat? Considering almost every fodders works with explosive papers?
Well its subjective, but in my opinion, the feats he displayed against Juubito proved his reaction speeds were greater [
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No, there can be objective interpretation of this. Like i've already said above, Tobirama reacted to mindless V1 Jubito. Minato reacted to brain version 2 Jubito(partially dodging his assault). [
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Minato isn't using SM in a fight against Tobirama, not a chance. He will never get the time to do so, nor will he given the fact that it would leave him vulnerable and that he has already claimed his experience isn't good enough to be used in actual battle.
Minato entered SM instantly against Madara jin. [
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Notice Minato threw a kunai under Madara before entering Sage Mode and we know that to enter sage mode you need to remain immobile to gather natural energy.
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That means that right before entering Sage Mode, Minato was actually mobile(considering he threw the kunai), making his entering of the mode close to instant. He didn't require a split of second(the time after the kunai throw) to enter the mode
It's a misconception that because said he isn't good in the mode that he can't use it in battle. I believe you misunderstood Minato's wording or at least it would contradict a direct mangascan in this case. Minato only mentioned the fact it takes him too much time to knead the chakra(talking in terms of quantity). He didn't say however that he can't knead small amount in time to make use of it in battle. It's in the long run that Minato wasn't finding SM appropriate. Not that he couldn't make use of it for short bursts if need arise. And even then, when he has the possibility to summon Pa and Ma, that problem can quickly be resolved
True, Kunai tags have a greater role than he claimed, but he also forgot to emphasise on Tobirama's sensing, which more than makes up for it. Oh, and Juubito's reflexes and reaction speed=/=Madara's. Anyways, Madara has raped the two of them, whereas Juubito couldn't do much to Tobirama's FTG or tagging.
Well both are sensors, not to mention i fail to see how sensing helps. It's not like it's a precognitive move like what confers Sage Mode or Sharingan. Not to mention you also forget to mention the fact that the Madara, Minato faced was Jubi Jin Madara. So another point where Kishi placed Minato against a superior version of an opponent. The implication is clear here. Ask yourself this, by manga portrayal if Kishi were to do a battle of speed between Tobirama and Minato, who would win? By portrayal point of view, Minato is placed in a better regard than Tobirama
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What this shows is the strength of his chakra, not the quantity. Old Hiruzen could do that in part1 but he had weak chakra reserve. I'd like to point out the fact that Tobirama could only make 2clones while holding a barrier old Hiruzen(with his weak chakra reserve) could hold, so it implies he "only" has 3 times the chakra of old hiruzen and it can even be less considering we have no way to know the barrier took that much on old Hiruzen. Minato on the other side has large enough chakra reserve to use SM, so it's actually possible they have more comparable chakra reserves than you actually think. I think people think that because he is a Senju he automatically has more, but Tsunade who is a senju has less quantity of chakra than Jiraya
along with creating 2 clones when Hashirama could only create 6 in the barrier, meaning he posses 1/3 of Hashirama's chakra, or in other words,
Not really. Don't forget Hashirama beforehand created 5clones or so once again, which makes a total of 11 clones, so in this case it's more like 1/6 of Hashirama's chakra or something. And with what i've said above in comparison with old Hiruzen, it doesn't prove that much. I also fail to understand the argument around the suiton. It's not like blowing them away will stop Minato in teleporting on them. Not to mention that considering he is linked with all his marking, he can summon them back and throw them away. Such a tactic will cost Tobirama a lot in the long run
he already established that his kamui was superior to his FTG, so why would he waste his time and chakra. Great argument by the way, minato didn't use Bunta then so he won't use it here... Basically meaning "I have no counter". Minato didn't use rasengan against Ay either, guess that means he won't use it now too right? Didn't know you have to throw out your entire arsenal for it to be IC.
