Why do NarutoFanboys insist that you don't need Chakra to put someone on Genjutsu?

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Why do NarutoFanboys insist that you don't need Chakra to put someone on Genjutsu?
 

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It's just the MT. Otherwise how else would Kaguya have caught non-chakra fodders in it? Derp.
 

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Genjutsu is a disturbance in the flow of chakra...

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It's just the MT. Otherwise how else would Kaguya have caught non-chakra fodders in it? Derp.

What is MT?

Edo Tensei and Summon Hawk have Chakra.

How did you know that the people Kaguya trapped don't have chakra?
 

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What is MT?

Edo Tensei and Summon Hawk have Chakra.

How did you know that the people Kaguya trapped don't have chakra?

Kaguya is the Progenitor of Chakra; first person to have Chakra.

MT = Mugen Tsukuyomi; Infinite Tsukuyomi.
 

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Everyone has chakra, Ninja are just ones that know how to utilise it.
 

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Genjutsu does require chakra to be casted on the user.
 

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What is MT?

Edo Tensei and Summon Hawk have Chakra.

How did you know that the people Kaguya trapped don't have chakra?

MT = mugen tsukuyomi/ infinite tsukuyomi

Yes they do...

Well, cats were caught under the Infinite tsukuyomi cast by Madara so I don't see why not!

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Every living thing has chakra.

That is why Kaguya was the first person to gain and use chakra? From the Shinju's fruit? Over time they no doubt gained it, as well as when Hagoromo spread it.
 

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you are the one who hates the idea because that wil make naruto characters like madara/kaguya solo other anime universes

whatever ,in multiple universes fights ,haki,chakra,riatsu ..etc are equalized
 

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Everyone has chakra, Ninja are just ones that know how to utilise it.

Chakra came from the Juubi, unless you show some scans.

MT = mugen tsukuyomi/ infinite tsukuyomi

Yes they do...

Well, cats were caught under the Infinite tsukuyomi cast by Madara so I don't see why not!

:p

Yet, the Edo Tensei and Sasuke's Summon Hawk were not caught under the IT.

Every living thing has chakra.

Wrong, even before Kaguya ate the Shinju fruit, there are living humans without Chakra.

Edo Tensei = Dead = Have Chakra
 

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Yet, the Edo Tensei and Sasuke's Summon Hawk were not caught under the IT.

Everything or everyone is caught under IT regardless of whether they have chakra or not... Yep and the reason they weren't caught was because the Edo Tensei were already dead and the tree only captures living beings or things and the summon hawk... I have no idea.. Haha :sweat: Ask someone else! I'm sure they'll know! Haha sorry about that. :)
 

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Chakra came from the Juubi, unless you show some scans.



Yet, the Edo Tensei and Sasuke's Summon Hawk were not caught under the IT.



Wrong, even before Kaguya ate the Shinju fruit, there are living humans without Chakra.

Edo Tensei = Dead = Have Chakra

Let me rephrase then.

There was once a time when no one had chakra.
Kaguya ate the Juubi fruit, and got chakra.
Her sons were born with chakra.
The chakra spread.
Eventually, it became that every living thing had chakra.
 

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I now know why people are getting confused! (At least, why I am haha!) We don't know when exactly Kaguya cast the IT. It could have been before the chakra was even spread around to everybody by Hagoromo, or after... We don't know and that's one of the reasons why we can't really answer the question properly. Some people are saying everyone already had chakra but didn't know how to use it and others are saying they never had chakra until afterwards when it was spread around. It's one of the things we never found out about Kaguya along with why she stopped the IT in the first place or why she needed the zetsus.

To answer your question we have to know that first... Hope that helps or if it even makes sense lol!

So 1. She may have cast IT before everyone had chakra yet (meaning genjutsu can be cast on people without chakra)

Or 2. She may have cast IT after the chakra had been spread (meaning genjutsu can only be cast on things or beings with chakra)

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I now know why people are getting confused! (At least, why I am haha!) We don't know when exactly Kaguya cast the IT. It could have been before the chakra was even spread around to everybody by Hagoromo, or after... We don't know and that's one of the reasons why we can't really answer the question properly. Some people are saying everyone already had chakra but didn't know how to use it and others are saying they never had chakra until afterwards when it was spread around. It's one of the things we never found out about Kaguya along with why she stopped the IT in the first place or why she needed the zetsus.

To answer your question we have to know that first... Hope that helps or if it even makes sense lol!

So 1. She may have cast IT before everyone had chakra yet (meaning genjutsu can be cast on people without chakra)

Or 2. She may have cast IT after the chakra had been spread (meaning genjutsu can only be cast on things or beings with chakra)

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Hagoromo seemed to be an adult at the time, and it was near when they sealed her away, so it's most likely after chakra had spread to many people. We already know Genjutsu works by disrupting chakra flow, so it has to be the second option
 

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Hagoromo seemed to be an adult at the time, and it was near when they sealed her away, so it's most likely after chakra had spread to many people. We already know Genjutsu works by disrupting chakra flow, so it has to be the second option

Yep I'm gonna have to agree! But my mind is still boggled haha, I'm still so confused... But yeah. OP next time please don't confuse me so much haha! I'm dying right now! :sweat: I think I confused myself way more than I needed to...kukuku xP
 
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