Zaheer Or Sasuke: Which Revolutionist is better?

Who is the better Revolutionist


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KingHashirama

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The only thing that separates humans from animals is arrogance and an obsessive need to be special. Also, the Purge would only be possible if all humans were sociopaths at their core, which is not the case, either way, I don't really know what the point of that whole "Purge" tangent was.

@bold, so you are a dog?

And purge = gangs are free to do whatever they want, kill whoever they want. List keeps going on and on.
 

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-Has nothing to do with Sasuke.
-Has nothing to do with Sasuke.
-Has nothing to do with Sasuke.
-Has nothing to do with Sasuke.

None of what you said has anything to do with Sasuke. It all has to do with the fan base. So hate on the fan base and not the character. Other wise you are doing nothing but character bashing.

OT: You could put any dude in front of Sasuke and call it a better revolution. He has not done anything besides seal the bijuu's as of now.

I don't really like Sasuke as a character anyway, i find him to be boring and needlessly jerkish.
 

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@bold, so you are a dog?

And purge = gangs are free to do whatever they want, kill whoever they want. List keeps going on and on.

Humans are biologically animals, other animals also show intelligence, other animals also have emotions, some other animals also form simple societies, and some other animals have things akin to language. Face it, the earth doesn't need us, it was here before we were and it'll be here when we're gone. Either way, you still didn't explain the point of that whole "Purge" post.
 

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Noice.

My thread is derailed due to bashing.

The thread served its purpose I guess..

 

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why do you feel that plural means "all". lol.


Of course I have to leave, cause there are no good arguments. Its not even on topic.

Everything regarding zaheer has been put down...

Zaheer isn't a revolutionist. He believes in no revolution, no system. o_O. Revolution requires you to bring in a system replacing the old one. Zaheer is not doing that. He is anti-system.
No system is the new system...

That shouldn't be a hard concept to grasp.
 

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I don't really like Sasuke as a character anyway, i find him to be boring and needlessly jerkish.

If you take the hate out of your ear. You will realize that not everything you see is reality but a joke. Maybe you should learn to accept characters for who they are instead of trying to bash them all the time?
 

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If you take the hate out of your ear. You will realize that not everything you see is reality but a joke. Maybe you should learn to accept characters for who they are instead of trying to bash them all the time?

Except I don't like Sasuke as a character, that's the end of it, I don't try to force people to like Obito, I don't expect people to force me to like Sasuke.
 

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Noice.

My thread is derailed due to bashing.

The thread served its purpose I guess..


True $#!t.No doubt about dat
for me this goes in dump though
and i won't be posting anything on this thread until someone provokes me

Except I don't like Sasuke as a character, that's the end of it, I don't try to force people to like Obito, I don't expect people to force me to like Sasuke.

then stop making a fanfic char for Sasuke dat suits ur opinion and bringing his fans in every debate
 

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Yeah I'm aware with natural selection, but its premise is something I don't agree with. What stops me from becoming one of the "weak"? What if the "weak" have new things to offer to the world? What if their ideals help improve the world?

If you have new things to offer then you wouldn't be among the weak, now would u?
 

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Except I don't like Sasuke as a character, that's the end of it, I don't try to force people to like Obito, I don't expect people to force me to like Sasuke.

You make threads that go against his mindset. How is that not trying to provoke people in to thinking what you want?
 

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If you have new things to offer then you wouldn't be among the weak, now would u?

What determines who isn't "weak" though? Military power, physical power, brute strength, intellectual know how, etc? What happens when people disagree on these definitions? Since the strong can dictate what they believe, it leaves little hope for the "weak" to even challenge this "system".
 

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You make threads that go against his mindset. How is that not trying to provoke people in to thinking what you want?

Because my threads aren't just "HUR DUR, SAKE SUX NARDO RULZ" I actually write thought out posts, hoping for meaningful debate, I get angry on those threads because people just read the title and write their response. I also wrote some threads about Obito and Madara as well. Also, I didn't know it was now against the rules to disagree with a character's point of view.
 

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Because my threads aren't just "HUR DUR, SAKE SUX NARDO RULZ" I actually write thought out posts, hoping for meaningful debate, I get angry on those threads because people just read the title and write their response. I also wrote some threads about Obito and Madara as well. Also, I didn't know it was now against the rules to disagree with a character's point of view.

Most of your threads are mindless rants though. Your hatred for one character add's fuel to the fire. I mean if there was a reasonable reason you dislike Sasuke I would honestly sit down and understand. But most of it has nothing to do with what he is doing right now. I mean come on I am sure one person can't be this lost?
 

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At least Zaheer never planned to slaughter innocents, unlike Sasuke.
wut? he was going to kill of tenzin and all the other air benders.

OT. no full end details on sasuke and he hasnt even done anything, neither, Amon is the real man
 

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Most of your threads are mindless rants though. Your hatred for one character add's fuel to the fire. I mean if there was a reasonable reason you dislike Sasuke I would honestly sit down and understand. But most of it has nothing to do with what he is doing right now. I mean come on I am sure one person can't be this lost?

Literally, my threads about how messed up his plans are, we're reasons to hate Sasuke, my reasons. Look, you don't have to agree with me, you can even argue with me if you want, but you're wrong to say that my threads are mindless rants. I actually Gino about what I write, but fans are too childish to actually make an intelligent rebuttal. Sasuke, for me, ruined the story as I wasn't looking forward to seeing Naruto and Sasuke fight, if you look at my posts prior to 692 I argued against the idea and even argued that Sasuke had changed. It was the fact that he really didn't that completely turned me off to the character.
 

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wut? he was going to kill of tenzin and all the other air benders.

OT. no full end details on sasuke and he hasnt even done anything, neither, Amon is the real man

Amon was a boss, though I actually like Zaheer for what he was. Amon was interesting because he wasn't necessisarily wrong, his past was interesting, and bloodbending was bad ass. Zaheer was cool for being a likable guy, even though he was a villain, he was generally pleasant and talkative, unless you were an enemy, and his airbending style was awesome, that's why I liked him.
 

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Amon was a boss, though I actually like Zaheer for what he was. Amon was interesting because he wasn't necessisarily wrong, his past was interesting, and bloodbending was bad ass. Zaheer was cool for being a likable guy, even though he was a villain, he was generally pleasant and talkative, unless you were an enemy, and his airbending style was awesome, that's why I liked him.
indeed, he was epic. him being masked also made me like him, i like masked villains. dont get me wrong, i love zaheers movesets, when he began flying menn shit really got real and i liked his persistence.
 

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Literally, my threads about how messed up his plans are, we're reasons to hate Sasuke, my reasons.

Even I do not agree with his plans. I can understand how messed up they are. But than again how much of his plans do we really know? All I see you do is add up past Sasuke's crimes in to the new one. Who wants to actually change the world. So that is why I am not able to understand this hate?


Look, you don't have to agree with me, you can even argue with me if you want, but you're wrong to say that my threads are mindless rants. I actually Gino about what I write, but fans are too childish to actually make an intelligent rebuttal. Sasuke, for me, ruined the story as I wasn't looking forward to seeing Naruto and Sasuke fight, if you look at my posts prior to 692 I argued against the idea and even argued that Sasuke had changed. It was the fact that he really didn't that completely turned me off to the character.

So pretty much your a disappointed fan? You had all this hope for him to be changed and yet in the end he disappointed you by turning evil? You do know Kishimotto already told us that these two would have a fight as the final fight? I actually expected Sasuke to be against Naruto. Since he was already foreshadowed to have changed into someone who wanted to change the system. In fact if you have watched the latest episode you can see it.
 

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Strictly from a power standpoint, zaheer was made to look like a total amateur against korra but sasuke is on more even terms with his enemy. They are both ruthless and willing to kill like true opportunists but honestly the red lotus got defeated by a poisoned avatar, a young fire/lighting bender, a young inexperienced lava bender and 2 metal benders. Unless there are more, dedicated ans sinister members if red lotus still roaming about, sasuke's revolution seems more likely to succeed than zaheer's.
 
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