Flaws in Sasuke's Plan

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That still wouldn't be a revolution, as the only people agreeing with Sasuke are his four followers, he'd need unrelated citizens like the people of Konoha or Kumo to agree with him to start an actual civil revolt, at best he plans a coup.
Slow yo roll sasuke hater clearly he has just only now announced his plans for a revolution and it has only been 1 chapter so don't act like you know for sure there would only be his followers.
 

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Do you know what a revolution is? Do you know what a coup is? Seriously, are you 12?
If I was twelve then that means a twelve year old can have a better understanding at what a revolution is then u u even said "A revolution is a civil change consisting of multiple people on the same page" which the multiple ppl are team taka that he has to revolt after he kills the have who are still stuck in IT
 

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If I was twelve then that means a twelve year old can have a better understanding at what a revolution is then u u even said "A revolution is a civil change consisting of multiple people on the same page" which the multiple ppl are team taka that he has to revolt after he kills the have who are still stuck in IT
Actually, I ask because you clearly don't know what a revolution is, believe that just because something is a revolution means it's good (American Revolution wasn't the only revolution), have pretty poor grammar and spelling, and most of your arguments either made no sense or avoided the original question.
 

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Who in the world do you hunk will follow him right now?
You don't know every shinobi. People followed Hitler so surely people will follow someone who actually wants peace and has a plan to do so unlike someone like naruto who dreams of unrealistic peace.

This was the point of sasuke talking to the ones who know everything so that he could know where they went wrong and not make the same mistakes that they now regret.
 

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Tobirama who is a kage started this by showing his hate towards them and made madras leave and the rest is history
He didn't show hate towards them. He fought them for years. He was a Senju, all the Senju fought the Uchiha. Hopefully you realize what war entails.

He was suspicious of them, something he admits. He wanted to keep an eye on them. They were genetically designed to go insane after a loss and are the most prideful clan in Konoha. It's their way or the highway. They're power-hungry. Who wouldn't be worried if you're a leader in charge of over 14000 people?

He knew they'd be offended over not having complete power in Konoha, so he tried to find a solution to help both sides- that being the Police Force (he can keep an eye on them; they can have more power than everyone bar the Hokage and the elders). There's not much wrong with this given the nature of the situation and the fact that no Uchiha bar 2 we've seen have been plausible options for the Hokage seat out of numerous generations.

Once again, he didn't hate them. That's just rubbish extreme Uchiha fans spew in order to victimize the clan, when in all actuality they are at fault for at least 60% of what occurred, perhaps even moreso. Second even attempted to give up his soul in order to save Sasuke after Madara one-shotted him. So much for hating them.

Tobirama's feelings towards the Uchiha breaches nothing more than suspicion, some bigotry, stereotyping, which is all wrong. However, it wasn't hatred. He just knew that if any threats were to befall the shinobi world, they'd be from that clan. Which most were.

He didn't make Madara leave. Madara was upset over the fact that the people he wanted to protect, his own clan, favored Hashirama and Tobirama over him. He couldn't handle that. He didn't like Tobirama. So, he lost his sanity and left. Tobirama never told him he had to leave. Madara left of his own will. He couldn't conduct himself like an adult. By claiming that Tobirama made Madara leave, you denote that Madara is exceptionally simple-minded and can't think on his own- apparently he does as Tobirama wants? That didn't happen.
 

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Actually, I ask because you clearly don't know what a revolution is, believe that just because something is a revolution means it's good (American Revolution wasn't the only revolution), have pretty poor grammar and spelling, and most of your arguments either made no sense or avoided the original question.
No my response takes ur responses and use em against u ur just too thick headed to see that a revolution starts out small and can (keyword "can") grow into a group of ppl please I answered ur question all of em u have no response to my question I'll answer any question u ask but I ask u one a revolution is a multiple of people is it not? And is taka formed with multiple ppl? Answer those two and I'll clearly answer any question ur dumb self say I avoid
 

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He didn't show hate towards them. He fought them for years. He was a Senju, all the Senju fought the Uchiha. Hopefully you realize what war entails.

He was suspicious of them, something he admits. He wanted to keep an eye on them. They were genetically designed to go insane after a loss and are the most prideful clan in Konoha. It's their way or the highway. They're power-hungry. Who wouldn't be worried if you're a leader in charge of over 14000 people?

He knew they'd be offended over not having complete power in Konoha, so he tried to find a solution to help both sides- that being the Police Force (he can keep an eye on them; they can have more power than everyone bar the Hokage and the elders). There's not much wrong with this given the nature of the situation and the fact that no Uchiha bar 2 we've seen have been plausible options for the Hokage seat out of numerous generations.

Once again, he didn't hate them. That's just rubbish extreme Uchiha fans spew in order to victimize the clan, when in all actuality they are at fault for at least 60% of what occurred, perhaps even moreso. Second even attempted to give up his soul in order to save Sasuke after Madara one-shotted him. So much for hating them.

Tobirama's feelings towards the Uchiha breaches nothing more than suspicion, some bigotry, stereotyping, which is all wrong. However, it wasn't hatred. He just knew that if any threats were to befall the shinobi world, they'd be from that clan. Which most were.

He didn't make Madara leave. Madara was upset over the fact that the people he wanted to protect, his own clan, favored Hashirama and Tobirama over him. He couldn't handle that. He didn't like Tobirama. So, he lost his sanity and left. Tobirama never told him he had to leave. Madara left of his own will. He couldn't conduct himself like an adult. By claiming that Tobirama made Madara leave, you denote that Madara is exceptionally simple-minded and can't think on his own- apparently he does as Tobirama wants? That didn't happen.
See I like you no homo u clearly the only using facts tho I like this dude lol
 

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You don't know every shinobi. People followed Hitler so surely people will follow someone who actually wants peace and has a plan to do so unlike someone like naruto who dreams of unrealistic peace.

This was the point of sasuke talking to the ones who know everything so that he could know where they went wrong and not make the same mistakes that they now regret.
Except everyone is clearly on Naruto's page and they view him as a hero.
 

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No my response takes ur responses and use em against u ur just too thick headed to see that a revolution starts out small and can (keyword "can") grow into a group of ppl please I answered ur question all of em u have no response to my question I'll answer any question u ask but I ask u one a revolution is a multiple of people is it not? And is taka formed with multiple ppl? Answer those two and I'll clearly answer any question ur dumb self say I avoid
It's not my fault that I speak english, not whatever the hell you're writing. And, no, you didn't use my arguments against me, you just brought up random facts. And, a coup can be four people, a revolution reflects the people, Taka is nowhere close to reflecting the people of the world or even a single village.
 

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He didn't show hate towards them. He fought them for years. He was a Senju, all the Senju fought the Uchiha. Hopefully you realize what war entails.

He was suspicious of them, something he admits. He wanted to keep an eye on them. They were genetically designed to go insane after a loss and are the most prideful clan in Konoha. It's their way or the highway. They're power-hungry. Who wouldn't be worried if you're a leader in charge of over 14000 people?

He knew they'd be offended over not having complete power in Konoha, so he tried to find a solution to help both sides- that being the Police Force (he can keep an eye on them; they can have more power than everyone bar the Hokage and the elders). There's not much wrong with this given the nature of the situation and the fact that no Uchiha bar 2 we've seen have been plausible options for the Hokage seat out of numerous generations.

Once again, he didn't hate them. That's just rubbish extreme Uchiha fans spew in order to victimize the clan, when in all actuality they are at fault for at least 60% of what occurred, perhaps even moreso. Second even attempted to give up his soul in order to save Sasuke after Madara one-shotted him. So much for hating them.

Tobirama's feelings towards the Uchiha breaches nothing more than suspicion, some bigotry, stereotyping, which is all wrong. However, it wasn't hatred. He just knew that if any threats were to befall the shinobi world, they'd be from that clan. Which most were.

He didn't make Madara leave. Madara was upset over the fact that the people he wanted to protect, his own clan, favored Hashirama and Tobirama over him. He couldn't handle that. He didn't like Tobirama. So, he lost his sanity and left. Tobirama never told him he had to leave. Madara left of his own will. He couldn't conduct himself like an adult. By claiming that Tobirama made Madara leave, you denote that Madara is exceptionally simple-minded and can't think on his own- apparently he does as Tobirama wants? That didn't happen.
Fail Hashirama knew his brother hated the uchiha because Hashirama when he was going to kill himself for madara he told Tobirama that when he dies not to harm madara or persecute the uchiha. Hashirama during the talk with sasuke several times had to tell Tobirama that he told him not to persecute the uchiha but what did Tobirama do, he moved them outside the village, he made them the police force knowing police are typically hated amongst the average civilian just like majority of low income people hate the police. So he isolated them for no reason making them not part of the village and then he turned the people against them. And then his pupil Danzo finished the rest. Even orochimaru knew Tobirama hated the uchiha and even told him so. Clearly you must think white people never hated black people and that all white people love black people now....


I understand it's hard for white people to tell what racism is because the majority of them have never experienced it themselves so you don't know what you don't know about.
 

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It's not my fault that I speak english, not whatever the hell you're writing. And, no, you didn't use my arguments against me, you just brought up random facts. And, a coup can be four people, a revolution reflects the people, Taka is nowhere close to reflecting the people of the world or even a single village.
Revolution reflects the people? U just changed the definition of revolution of what u said earlier tho why?that quote I said was copied and pasted from ur earlier post so ur just contradicting urself now I'm done
 

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Fail Hashirama knew his brother hated the uchiha because Hashirama when he was going to kill himself for madara he told Tobirama that when he dies not to harm madara or persecute the uchiha. Hashirama during the talk with sasuke several times had to tell Tobirama that he told him not to persecute the uchiha but what did Tobirama do, he moved them outside the village, he made them the police force knowing police are typically hated amongst the average civilian just like majority of low income people hate the police. So he isolated them for no reason making them not part of the village and then he turned the people against them. And then his pupil Danzo finished the rest. Even orochimaru knew Tobirama hated the uchiha and even told him so. Clearly you must think white people never hated black people and that all white people love black people now....


I understand it's hard for white people to tell what racism is because the majority of them have never experienced it themselves so you don't know what you don't know about.
I'm black and think half of that was bull.
 

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Revolution reflects the people? U just changed the definition of revolution of what u said earlier tho why?that quote I said was copied and pasted from ur earlier post so ur just contradicting urself now I'm done
Except I never once contradicted myself, however, I have finally decided that your arguments simply aren't worth replying to.
 

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I'm black and think half of that was bull.
Think what you want.

Most of that was about the manga about Tobirama and those are manga facts since Hashirama and orochimaru did acknowledge Tobirama hate for the uchiha.

The minimal amount was white the majority at least haven't experienced racism and that's a fact as well.
 

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Yeah, other than maybe talking to those same 5 people as they're likely willing to talk now...I imagine you could save even more lives that way...either way, Sasuke would still have to kill everyone that disagrees with him *cough*the world*cough*!
This likely to talk can turn into rather huge loss of lives if kages pull their nations to fight him, why take this risk?
Its not like those kages killed dozens each, the very least. Pretty much all of them but mei and maybe gaara have higher kill count then sasuke.

The world disagreeing with him is nothing but your speculation.
I'm black and think half of that was bull.
So what now? You can relate to anything? The levels of racism nowadays are low in comparison. Try speaking for those 50 or 100 years back U_U
 
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