Sasuke is clever and has better strategies than shikamaru

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Without prep time? Yeah, not necessarily kill him but he can incapacitate him.
Without knowledge on his ability? Probably not.

NOTE: It's HEBI SASUKE we're talking about. Any further Sasuke version stomps Hidan.

Perp includes knowledge so you basic answer is "non" right?, and yeah I know any further form stomps hard lol

Just wanted to point out few stuff, shikamaru is better in 1v1 matches matter fact he hates multi fight cause he cars about everyone in his team and most of all he gets really confused about if his plane is going to lead the team for victory or if it's going to lead them to death, there for shikamaru is Better at 1v1 matches
 

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The fact that this isn't about power, makes your fodder comment irrelevant, the Best Strategist in the manga was Shikaku then Shikamaru, as they planned several large scale battle plans.

I remember Shikaku and his intel squad planning all of those but I could be wrong I need scans. Sasuke just planned a revolution is that a fair comparison?
 

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I remember Shikaku and his intel squad planning all of those but I could be wrong I need scans. Sasuke just planned a revolution is that a fair comparison?
Shikaku's final plan before the Juubi blasted HQ was planned out by himself as was most of them when certain fighters were in the heat of battle, and i don't think at counts as it more of ambition than battle plan
 

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Perp includes knowledge so you basic answer is "non" right?, and yeah I know any further form stomps hard lol

Just wanted to point out few stuff, shikamaru is better in 1v1 matches matter fact he hates multi fight cause he cars about everyone in his team and most of all he gets really confused about if his plane is going to lead the team for victory or if it's going to lead them to death, there for shikamaru is Better at 1v1 matches
Preps do require knowledge. However, gathering knowledge on the enemy can happen in the midst of the battle as proven by Sasuke's fight with Deidara. In short, I never claimed Sasuke is better at devising strategies, I claim he's better at quickly analyzing and finding counters.
 

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Sasuke being 1st in class doesn't mk him smarter/ better @ strategies dn shikamaru.....he's(sasuke) jst more of a devoted hard worker, meanwhile shik was jst lazy.... So pls, get a better excuse...... Shik, uses jst shadow tech compared to sasuke, who uses many jutsus and ve many abilities... He's often called by d hokage to help plan tinz...
 

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Stop the madness. Shikamaru has the same ability to manage 1v1 situations as he does with large group battles. Just note the fact the he has never lost a 1v1 battle with far less resources than Sasuke or Naruto is feat worthy. He defeated or stalemated all of his opponents with simple ninja tools and one mediocre ninjustu.
 

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Wow! In a sea of fanboy fap threads, this moves right to the top of the most ridiculous statements. It has be in the top 5 of all time.
 
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If he's so good at planning, why would he go ahead with his plans? That will just continue the hate and wars, any moron can see that his plan won't work because of the constant conflict.. he'd have to kill every shinobi.

by now you should know that every uchiha has to sacrifice something to achieve another, even itachi killed his own clan to save the village.....
 

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I believe Sasuke is superior in actual battle scenarios while Shikamaru shines in support type scenarios like him asuma, and the chunnin vs Hidan
 

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i mean he had the best score in the class exam, he told orochimaru to heal the kage's for assistance to deafeat madara and tobi, during the battle against kaguya, madara and obito he was training himself for this battle, he is clever on and of the battle....

so sasuke haters and naruto fans tell me how he can defeat....,

sasuke has...Naruto use

kirin...Naruto tanks this as his KM tanked Juubi storm, Madara's Susanoo Tomoe shuriken and BM deflected 5 tbb with speed alone.
hashirama's secret jutsu...That was a jutsu that could be used only on Madara who took his Senjutsu as he told Sasuke.
perfect susanoo....Madara said PS was compared to a Bijuu is destructive power while BM matched 5 Bijuu combined power (tbb).
blue/black chidori...That's from Senjutsu which Naruto has so Senjutsu Rasengan match it and Senjutsu wind Rasengan beats it.
Amaterasu...BM roar blast it away as it did 5 Bijuus. He can also sense it and evade it with his superior speed.
Genjutsu...Bijuus inside him break him out or he shows that he improved his skills and break it on his own.
sword of kusanagi: chidori katana...Sasuke lost his sword in the lava and Naruto can infuse his kunai with wind which beats lightning.
Hawk/Snake summoning...Toad summon, clones use chakra arms to punch them, he throws them miles away, FRS.
Lion combo...Sasuke isn't getting him with that with Naruto's sensory skills and superior speed.
Orochimaru's replacing jutsu...Sasuke only had that when Orochimaru was sealed inside him and never used it again and cost lots chakra.
Fire Release jutsu's...KM Naruto tanked Obito and Madara's katon which is stronger than Sasuke's and he did it for the while Alliance.
Blaze Release jutsu's...Small as Amaterasu or having his clone stop it.
yin power...Yang power
chibaku tensei...He was actually inside 1, go full Bijuu Avatar and break out since Sasuke had to place the Bijuus under genjutsu.
shadow shuriken technique...KM tanked Obito's giant shurikens plus it was Naruto plan to use it on Zabuza.


i can go on all day, but it will take time to write, so for more information you can read his biography on naruto wiki...

Shikamaru is using thousands of shinobis power perfectly to fight the Juubi and kept them motivated to fight which Temari then praised him as Hokage worthy. I countered all the jutsus in your post and I can keep going on as well.
 

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And yet you failed to provide any evidence as to how he is smarter than shikamar.

Interms of battle smarts Sasuke would be way below in the top ten.
 

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Thing is, Shikamaru has nothing to work with other than Shadow Jutsu's and tools. Sasuke has so much more in his arsenal, of course he's going to come up with great strategies because he has great abilities.
 

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i mean he had the best score in the class exam, he told orochimaru to heal the kage's for assistance to deafeat madara and tobi, during the battle against kaguya, madara and obito he was training himself for this battle, he is clever on and of the battle....

so sasuke haters and naruto fans tell me how he can defeat....,

sasuke has...

kirin...
hashirama's secret jutsu...
perfect susanoo....
blue/black chidori
Amaterasu...
Genjutsu...
sword of kusanagi: chidori katana...
Hawk/Snake summoning...
Lion combo...
Orochimaru's replacing jutsu...
Fire Release jutsu's...
Blaze Release jutsu's...
yin power...
chibaku tensei...
shadow shuriken technique...


i can go on all day, but it will take time to write, so for more information you can read his biography on naruto wiki...

omg this is the reason why i suspect sasuke's fangirls are kids below 13
 

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I. Just. Can't.

Let's get one thing straight here. Shikamaru had 200 f*cking moves planned during the fight with Temari. Now, I can understand the difficulties because the most I can imagine doing is 20-30 moves ahead, and I consider myself fairly intelligent.

Shikamaru DOES lack experience and powers so in that aspect, he cannot come up with as many strategies. Sasuke is intelligent alright, but DEFINITELY not to the point of Shikamaru's intelligence. Also, Shikamaru is only lazy f*ck, while Sasuke is motivated and that says a world of difference.

Shikamaru is arguably among, if not definitely, the smartest character in Naruto (I think Kakashi is just below Shikimaru and Shikaku) . In several points in Naruto, Sasuke has made miscalculations, admittedly not very often.

At this point, I'm not entirely sure why I'm even trying. Peace out, and get some common sense... please.
 
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Sasuke is a fast learner and battle tactician, while Shikamaru is a long term strategist.

Both are smart in their own right.
 
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