[Theory] What we missed - Madara's a clever girl: It is *not* over

[NotAFanBoy]

I wish hagoromo was evil! That way the manag could continue for another while. I doubt that will happen though

 

[SeBa]

yeah brah he can do that if he did it once and it would be cool to be honest but this is the end ... no more villains... kishi won't drag this any longer... i think...

 

[Zato]

He is dead. He is not coming back either. He finally excepted his death and that his dream was not going to be achieved. Even if he came back to life then so what? He has to fight Sasuke,Naruto,9 tailed beast and possibly the SO6P... His body is too damaged for him to do anything anyway and knowing them they are probably going to destroy his body so he can't be brought back.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

He is dead. He is not coming back either. He finally excepted his death and that his dream was not going to be achieved. Even if he came back to life then so what? He has to fight Sasuke,Naruto,9 tailed beast and possibly the SO6P... His body is too damaged for him to do anything anyway and knowing them they are probably going to destroy his body so he can't be brought back.

The funny thing is that Madara's DNA can be found quite easily now since

• his body is still there
• Kabuto and maybe Orochimaru have his DNA
• his Sage legs have his DNA
• the arm that it was cut by the bijuu is still there

 

[Cael]

So, now the completely senseless theory about Madara using Izanagi got combined with the downright retarded theory about Hagoromo being evil?


It's really time the manga ends. Honestly.

why should the manga end because people come up with stupid theory, the manga can end or go any direction kishi wants, up to him to decided, he can add a new story or new villain if he wants.

 

[Yatori]

Dude! I really hope this will happen... A very good plot twist!

 

[Draxus]

The sage is evil, he basically said leave Madara to die, no saviour says that

That sage isn't a savior type character good character. He's closer to a Tobirama then he is a Hashirama. Madara doesn't belong in the world of the living. He was resurrected just like the edo kage, he needed to go back to the pure world where he belonged.

Other suspicious Sage behavior:

-Summoning Madara back just to let him die
-Recalling the previous gokage. What kind of GOD needs help with a summoning ritual?
-His disparaging comments towards others. Not knowing Obito was there and dismissing the ETs.

S06P seems to be prepping for something. My guess? He intends to take Madz body and return to guide humanity. He needs the TB and Rinnegan to do it. Guys drunk with power. Also, why no Hamura in lore so far? Sage murdered his own brother and took the crescent symbol. Everything since then? He's covering his own tracks. Guys a total narcissist.

-First you think it suspicious he let him die, then you think it's suspicious that he brought him back from the other dimension. No logic here
-He's not a GOD. Not sure why, if he was, needing help would be suspicious. In most religions God's have faults and get help a lot.
-He never said anything disparaging. What is suspicious about him not being omniscient. Oh I get it... you really think he's literally God don't you?

Again it baffles me how you are so sure he stole his brother's power... how do you know Hamura even came up with seal in the first place? How do you know it wasn't Hagoromo's technique from the start and he gave the seal to his brother? How do you know Hagoromo isn't capable of producing both seals himself? The technique needs a 2nd person either way!

If he wanted to hide Hamura, he never would have told Sasuke and Naruto about him.

 

[Faiznarmi]

And also there is something eelse here: Juubi is supposed to be the exception in the rule but yet Hago said that madara would die either way.

It is the only exception if Madara still has the Gedo Mazou inside of him. But it's sealed on another dimension, so yeah, he'll die anyway

 

[phantomlord22]

that's interesting!

 

[maniaoqan]

Not even Izanagi can save him. If he were to use it he would've been in the same state with one eye blinded again.For Izanagi to work he needs to activate it when he was healthy and when he got fatally wounded he resets reality back to the point he was healthy. But he is already dying and if he uses it now he would still die with a blind eye.

 

[ultraChalk]

Whew cot damn 10/10 thread op.

good eye.

 

[Floydical]

The eye shown was the eye he lost due to Izanagi long ago. It became blind again after he lost his Senju DNA/ Rinnegan.

 

[Sentinel]

madara's time was over long ago, reincarnations should not last, that was why the sage did not save madara. it's as simple as that.
and I doubt madara uzed izanagi again to return but I won't exclude it. last time madara was prepared to face hashirama and knew that there was a big chance that he could die, so he prepared the izanagi in his eye at that time before the battle. this time madara returned to the battlefield and with new powers and once he became the jubi's jinchuriki he did not expect anyone to be able to rival him, so he probably never prepared the izanagi.
also the eye that casts izanagi only goes white after izanagi was activated and this clearly is not the case here. this is just madara unable to maintain his rinnegan and returning to a regular sharingan and then die.

 

[Skater007]

LOL, op, think again about wat u sayin. Madara, Hashi and the others are like the last-gen, people who are long dead. By letting Madara go, Sage means for the current generation to rule. I mean, would you like President Nixon to come outta nowhere and rape you? Their time has long passed. Sage did even mention, that he's going to listen to Obito's story in the other world. Okbye.

 

[jiraiya nindo]

Not even Izanagi can save him. If he were to use it he would've been in the same state with one eye blinded again.For Izanagi to work he needs to activate it when he was healthy and when he got fatally wounded he resets reality back to the point he was healthy. But he is already dying and if he uses it now he would still die with a blind eye.

Idk about this. Izanagi can be activated at death and brings the caster back to whatever point they wish. It rewrites fact with fantasy. Nowhere does it state that the person is brought back to the point in which it was activated. You cant compare madara's izanagi to danzo's izanagi since danzo wasn't a pure uchiha.

 

[Aim64C]

Something we all seem to miss is that Hagoromo says this:

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Hagoromo didn't know anything about Kaguya being sealed when he sealed the Juubi.

Right?

Or did he?

And where is everyone?

Last I checked, Naruto was trying to save his friends, not a bunch of dead Kage and a ghostly sage. Where's the hero's welcome?

"So, hey, Grandpa sage... uh... where are all of my friends?"

"Yeah... about that...."

"What do you mean?"

"Well, you see, I'm taking back their chakra. People have proven that they can't handle it and it's better this way."

"But they'll become-"

"Yes, unfortunate. Sucks to be them."

Edit - you'd think I would have learned how to use mangapanda images by now.

 

[so12p]

He died after redeeming himself with hashirama. That is a kishimoto thing and now it is done. Just let him go.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

He didnt use Izanagi he just deactivated the rinnegan so his eye was a sharingan.

He's dead now.

 

[Jnaru]

I wish hagoromo was evil! That way the manag could continue for another while. I doubt that will happen though

We'll longest night in manga is finally came to end, I guess the new morning is new beginning

War arc is over

 

[Jnaru]

Idk about this. Izanagi can be activated at death and brings the caster back to whatever point they wish. It rewrites fact with fantasy. Nowhere does it state that the person is brought back to the point in which it was activated. You cant compare madara's izanagi to danzo's izanagi since danzo wasn't a pure uchiha.

But u still need to activate it beforehand, if u are dead u can't use jutsu

And rinnegan doesn't cast izanagi, sharingan does, he dint have those