[Discussion] Sabo vs Sengoku (pre-TS)

Bogard

Active member
Supreme
Joined
Apr 7, 2012
Messages
21,914
Kin
8💸
Kumi
3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Sengoku should win high-extreme difficulty. He wasn't exactly that young in marineford, so he will have to finish his fight pretty fast or Sabo could take him out in the long run stamina-wise
I wanted to see how overrated Sabo was.
Certainly not as much as Crocodile
Haki infused shcokwaves? Is that even possible? I don't thinks so, it would be same as Sabo imbuding his fire with haki
Well Zoro can infuse haki in air slashes. I don't think it's that impossible
 

MartinRico

Active member
Regular
Joined
Oct 12, 2011
Messages
686
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
zoro can infuse his flying slash with haki dont see why df cant do it as well
Kizaru is the reason why haki infused df attacks can't be possible. He would have been able to bypass Marco's regeneration without the need of seastone cuffs if it were possible.
The flying slash is just another sword slash, so it's not the same thing as DF's.

Sengoku wins mid diff.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dr Strangelove

A v i

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
4,396
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Kizaru is the reason why haki infused df attacks can't be possible. He would have been able to bypass Marco's regeneration without the need of seastone cuffs if it were possible.
The flying slash is just another sword slash, so it's not the same thing as DF's.

Sengoku wins mid diff.

Nothing Suggests that Kizaru didn't use haki back then. If your haki is not strong enough then it won't hurt your enemy just like what happened when Vista and Marko attacked Akainu.
 

Bogard

Active member
Supreme
Joined
Apr 7, 2012
Messages
21,914
Kin
8💸
Kumi
3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️

Nothing Suggests that Kizaru didn't use haki back then. If your haki is not strong enough then it won't hurt your enemy just like what happened when Vista and Marko attacked Akainu.
Their haki were strong enough(they cut his lava body without it even denting their swords or fangs). Haki is supposed to harden body parts. Their attacks went through him completely. Akainu survived only because of his logia body manipulation. Like when Rayleigh cut Kizaru in half, but only came out with a minor(paper) cut on the face
 
Last edited:

A v i

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
4,396
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Their haki were strong enough(they cut his lava body without it even denting their swords or fangs). Haki is supposed to harden body parts. Their attacks went through him completely. Akainu survived only because of his logia body manipulation. Like when Rayleigh cut Kizaru in half, but only came out with a minor(paper) cut on the face

They should be able to wound him if their Haki is strong enough, They should be able to at least put a small dent on him. I am not saying that their haki is not strong enough to bypass his DF. It is his DF and his haki which made him took those attacks with no damage.
 

Bogard

Active member
Supreme
Joined
Apr 7, 2012
Messages
21,914
Kin
8💸
Kumi
3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️

They should be able to wound him if their Haki is strong enough, They should be able to at least put a small dent on him. I am not saying that their haki is not strong enough to bypass his DF. It is his DF and his haki which made him took those attacks with no damage.
Akainu was hurt by their haki(he expressed pain when they cut him), so they did dent him. Only that with his body manipulation, he managed to escape death like Kizaru against Rayleigh. Rayleigh cut him in half like i've said and he came out only with a small cut on the face and you can't say that Rayleigh didn't have strong enough haki. Even Whitebeard himself failed at times to hurt admirals despite cuting through them completely. Vista and Marco's attacks also went through Akainu completely, so he had no haki shield to protect himself. The only logical conclusion is that logias who master their fruit to a great extent are capable to manipulate their body enough to merge and switch with their elements any instant similar to Pica for example.
 

minato93

Member
Joined
May 29, 2013
Messages
134
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Sengoku would rape Sabo and then hand him a towel and tell him to leave.

People realize that Blackbeard had the perfect counter to Sengoku. But Sengoku's shock waves are OP. Sengoku will just continuously spam them.
 

~Naruto&Itachi~

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Sep 21, 2010
Messages
10,491
Kin
35💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Akainu was hurt by their haki(he expressed pain when they cut him), so they did dent him. Only that with his body manipulation, he managed to escape death like Kizaru against Rayleigh. Rayleigh cut him in half like i've said and he came out only with a small cut on the face and you can't say that Rayleigh didn't have strong enough haki. Even Whitebeard himself failed at times to hurt admirals despite cuting through them completely. Vista and Marco's attacks also went through Akainu completely, so he had no haki shield to protect himself. The only logical conclusion is that logias who master their fruit to a great extent are capable to manipulate their body enough to merge and switch with their elements any instant similar to Pica for example.
No he wasn't
 

Hexuze

Active member
Supreme
Joined
May 19, 2011
Messages
20,359
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Wait!
Then Why was Kizaru threatened by ben beckham's pistol?!
KGB prob. means logia ranged attacks, like a haki infused finger beam from Kizaru or something lol. We've seen regular ranged attacks w/ haki before, i.e. kuja's arrows. To answer your question, it's either one of three reasons:

1.) Kizaru was just trolling.
2.) Kizaru prob. knows from experience (maybe a fight before idk) that Benn beckman is skilled with his pistol & has good use of CoO which is Kizaru's weakness. (hence why Rayleigh was able to keep up with Kizaru and able to intercept him at times)
3.) Ben beckmann uses kairoseki bullets and he'll be able to kill Kizaru before he can move at the speed of light due to his charge up time. (unlikely since kairoseki is a rare material, unless Shanks has some next level underground sh*t going on xD )
 
  • Like
Reactions: Blunt
Top