Obito Uchiha vs. Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki

[wael reda]

going to need proof that Hago is superior to Kaguya also Obito aint push her to shit

Hagoromo has sasuke st tech kamui is useless has the firepowe of juubi his susanoo gets obliverated also has the most potent of truth seeking orbs and godudamas he stomps

Firstly ,hagromo himself said that kaguya is stronger than him

Gudomas get warped by kamui gg

When it was said that he has sasuke's s/t(which has cool down ?

Susano isn't the tech which will give obito the victory ,but kamui used by jiubi chakra is

Jin obito using kamui can counter any tech kaguya has comfortably ,he can surly push her to high diff or even beat her

 

[Oblivionx]

it's by no means stomp or below high diff fight... the problem is we don't have feats from sage, and what we have seen from madara and kaguya, obito can win, though hype makes sage the winner....

 

[wael reda]

Allright, now, how exactly does hagoromo hit him long enough to do the Yin/Yang seal? Since Kaguya was almost sealed right at the start but threw naruto and sasuke off her before they sealed her, So clearly it takes time to perform, something that going intangible does not.

Hagoromo before he became juubi jin needed hamura's help to take down the juubi, while Obito sealed it with a gaping hole in his chest. Two bijuu worth of chakra is not enough of a compensation for having your enemy not critically wounded and helped by his allpowerful brother.

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Hagoromo seems to think that the only way of stopping a juubi jin is by sealing them, but Obito have firsthand knowleage that extracting the juubi works just as well, so if obito can win a mindwrestling match with Hagoromo he wins.

Yes ,it looked like that naruto and sasuke needed to touch kaguya to use the seal ,so intangibility is a clear counter for that ,obi to can even counter moon sized cut by teleporting

people get crazy about anything about hagromo like he is even above kaguya ,we saw kaguya's abilities however I belief this obi to can push her to high diff or even beat her ,he can counter anything she has

 

[Ansatsuken]

Basically this is obito with all current kakashi abilities plus being jiubi jin
OK,this obito can beat kaguya(with all abilities she has showed) ,so I guess he can beat hagromo as well
This thread is pointless since we haven't seen hagromo,s abilities yet

You also must taking in consideration Kaguya intelligence, we all seen how she fighting without much battle strategy, just rushing and raw strength.

Hagoromo intelligence in battle strategy must be consider best if he and his brother can defeat juubi

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

You also must taking in consideration Kaguya intelligence, we all seen how she fighting without much battle strategy, just rushing and raw strength.

Hagoromo intelligence in battle strategy must be consider best if he and his brother can defeat juubi

It doesn't take strategy to seal something, certainly less that sealing the same creature with a hole in your chest.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Yes ,it looked like that naruto and sasuke needed to touch kaguya to use the seal ,so intangibility is a clear counter for that ,obi to can even counter moon sized cut by teleporting

people get crazy about anything about hagromo like he is even above kaguya ,we saw kaguya's abilities however I belief this obi to can push her to high diff or even beat her ,he can counter anything she has

He could definately beat her. Kamui is basically a better version of Kaguya's S/T since it has intangibility, and can access the kamui world as well as kaguya's ones.

If kaguya warps them to a world that is bad for obito, he can warp to another one untill she fights him there instead. Kamui can close Kaguya's portals, Kakashi allready did that. That leaves her entire arsenal as Ash bones which Intangibility shits on, and chakra arms which are nothing special.

Killing her is no problem, Objects keep their velocity as the travel between dimensions, so Obito can warp an Ash bone and shoot her with it by opening a portal behind her. No amount of immortality is going to save her from the technique that WILL kill her in the manga.

Long story short, Obito > Kaguya.

 

[KCMNaruto]

This obito can push kaguya to high diff or even beat her ,I guess he can beat jin hagromo who is inferior to kaguya

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^^ Until Manga doesn't contradict this statement, it is gg for anyone against Sage

You are crazy to think that anyone besides PAST KAGUYA(not that weak representation of her current self) can beat JJ Hagoromo.

even Obito held some much respect to him, what he could do as JJ Hagoromo:

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The only one who awoken Rinnegan by themselves:

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Also Double Rinnegan > Any eyes powers/hax or no:

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^^ Obito know about Kamui still make such statement. Obito's statement > Opinion

 

[wael reda]

You also must taking in consideration Kaguya intelligence, we all seen how she fighting without much battle strategy, just rushing and raw strength.

Hagoromo intelligence in battle strategy must be consider best if he and his brother can defeat juubi

No,jiubi is mindless so beating jiubi with you brother doesn't mean you are intellilegent seeing how obito with a hole in his heart was able to seal the jiubi into himself

 

[Ansatsuken]

No,jiubi is mindless so beating jiubi with you brother doesn't mean you are intellilegent seeing how obito with a hole in his heart was able to seal the jiubi into himself

How do you know juubi back then dumb as current juubi

Have a scan

And if you consider nerfing part for current juubi, that also can't help your theory

 

[wael reda]

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^^ Until Manga doesn't contradict this statement, it is gg for anyone against Sage

You are crazy to think that anyone besides PAST KAGUYA(not that weak representation of her current self) can beat JJ Hagoromo.

even Obito held some much respect to him, what he could do as JJ Hagoromo:

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The only one who awoken Rinnegan by themselves:

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Also Double Rinnegan > Any eyes powers/hax or no:

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^^ Obito know about Kamui still make such statement. Obito's statement > Opinion

Lol ,are you serious? ,kaguya has the third rinningan however kamui clearly countered it
Obito said double rinningan is hax power ,he didn't say it is more powerful than kamui

We haven't seen hagromo abilities yet except for flying,gudomas,moon sized ct , yin/yang seal which obito can counter comfortably ,but we have seen kaguya's abilities who was said to be above hagromom himself ,this obi to can beat kaguya and can counter anything she has comfortably ,so why can't he beat inferior one to kaguya?

This thread is pointless ,he should have made it BS obito vs kaguya ,it would have made much more sense since we clearly know kaguya's abilities

 

[wael reda]

How do you know juubi back then dumb as current juubi

Have a scan

And if you consider nerfing part for current juubi, that also can't help your theory

If obito with a hole in his chest was able to seal jiubi(whatever if this is the form who fought hagromo and his brother though they looked the same to me),that means beating jiubi doesn't mean you are smart or intelligent
Hagromo himself stated his inferiority to kaguya ,this obito can comfortably counter anything kaguya has

 

[KCMNaruto]

Lol ,are you serious? ,kaguya has the third rinningan however kamui clearly countered it
Obito said double rinningan is hax power ,he didn't say it is more powerful than kamui

We haven't seen hagromo abilities yet except for flying,gudomas,moon sized ct , yin/yang seal which obito can counter comfortably ,but we have seen kaguya's abilities who was said to be above hagromom himself ,this obi to can beat kaguya and can counter anything she has comfortably ,so why can't he beat inferior one to kaguya?

This thread is pointless ,he should have made it BS obito vs kaguya ,it would have made much more sense since we clearly know kaguya's abilities

Kaguya has only more chakra and has more haxx one shot abitlies, Hagoromo is much more skilled and can perform seals to Use Ninjutsu/sealing Technique etc.

Hagoromo is much more smart, he could takes this. Obito's ability is hax which is perfect counter to overhelming raw power of Kaguya. Hagoromo's fighting style is completly different I can ensure you about that.

Also about sealing Juubi:

Obito's case: Obito hurt and in pain landed safely on Juubi's head while Juubi was restrained and damaged from his own bijuudama. Wood gate was restricting his body so Obito would easily seal it, the only problem was to do it fast because the wound give too much pain. Also that Juubi lacked ALMOST WHOLE KUrama and Gyuuki

summary: IN Juubi defeat took part: Naruto, Sasuke(ENTON FRS), Hashirama, Obito

Hagoromo;s: MAD COMPLETE JUUBI(much stronger) went at rampage at Hagoromo and Hamura who without help of Alliance shinobi or other forces which could restrain Juubi so they would seal it no problem. It must have really hard battle but in the end He along with brother did it.

Summary: In Juubi's defeat took part: Hagoromo and Hamura

 

[wael reda]

Kaguya has only more chakra and has more haxx one shot abitlies, Hagoromo is much more skilled and can perform seals to Use Ninjutsu/sealing Technique etc.

Hagoromo is much more smart, he could takes this. Obito's ability is hax which is perfect counter to overhelming raw power of Kaguya. Hagoromo's fighting style is completly different I can ensure you about that.

That is what I am talking about all we know about hagromo is hype except for some abilities which this obi to can counter
I think it would have made much more sense if it was obito vs kaguya

 

[wael reda]

He could definately beat her. Kamui is basically a better version of Kaguya's S/T since it has intangibility, and can access the kamui world as well as kaguya's ones.

If kaguya warps them to a world that is bad for obito, he can warp to another one untill she fights him there instead. Kamui can close Kaguya's portals, Kakashi allready did that. That leaves her entire arsenal as Ash bones which Intangibility shits on, and chakra arms which are nothing special.

Killing her is no problem, Objects keep their velocity as the travel between dimensions, so Obito can warp an Ash bone and shoot her with it by opening a portal behind her. No amount of immortality is going to save her from the technique that WILL kill her in the manga.

Long story short, Obito > Kaguya.

Yes I belief jin obito with perfect kamui can beat kaguya ,he can comfortably counter anything she has

 

[KCMNaruto]

Yes I belief jin obito with perfect kamui can beat kaguya ,he can comfortably counter anything she has

It is truth, But Current Kaguya is nowhere close to Past Kaguya powerwise, She still seems to regaining her powers/chakra.
Hagoromo only admitted being weaker then Past Kaguya.

Past Kaguya > JJ Hagoromo/JJ Three eyed Madara > JJ Obito with Kamui >=Current Kaguya

 

[Ansatsuken]

He could definately beat her. Kamui is basically a better version of Kaguya's S/T since it has intangibility, and can access the kamui world as well as kaguya's ones.

If kaguya warps them to a world that is bad for obito, he can warp to another one untill she fights him there instead. Kamui can close Kaguya's portals, Kakashi allready did that. That leaves her entire arsenal as Ash bones which Intangibility shits on, and chakra arms which are nothing special.

Killing her is no problem, Objects keep their velocity as the travel between dimensions, so Obito can warp an Ash bone and shoot her with it by opening a portal behind her. No amount of immortality is going to save her from the technique that WILL kill her in the manga.

Long story short, Obito > Kaguya.

You just look at latest chapter than proceed to create a scenerio that you think is check mate already

Kakashi just able to do all that because Kaguya is busy fighting other people's

And what is you true scenerio if Kakashi encounter non distract Kaguya and not relay from this chapter

What about portal grab, what about portal ash bone in closer distance where Objto unable to react

What about gravity dimension that Kaguya can control to make Obito unable to move.

What about hidden inside portal and lunching land changing attack or changing the dimension to acid dimension where Kaguya hiding in the portal

You can't take latest scenerio in the manga and paste it in deferent situation

How about Obito when making intangibility attack and Kaguya open her portal and sent Obito straight to lava sea or acid

Or changing dimension and freeze Obito movement unless he have Amaterasu, he can escape.

What about Kaguya portal duplicate like Obito did to her dimension.

What about Kaguya portal tactical battle

Kamui snipe have it own range that the disadvantages of this technique

If I'm the writer of this fight, I can make 101 situation to take down Obito even by simplest of move

And this fighting thread is nothing in the manga ,that mean I'm free to do anything by Kaguya power. But at one point you'll will saying that I'm creating fanfic because not follow manga fact. And so be it

But I'm know without limit of manga Kaguya can do more

And not Kishi

 

[KCMNaruto]

You just look at latest chapter than proceed to create a scenerio that you think is check mate already

Kakashi just able to do all that because Kaguya is busy fighting other people's

And what is you true scenerio if Kakashi encounter non distract Kaguya and not relay from this chapter

What about portal grab, what about portal ash bone in closer distance where Objto unable to react

What about gravity dimension that Kaguya can control to make Obito unable to move.

What about hidden inside portal and lunching land changing attack or changing the dimension to acid dimension where Kaguya hiding in the portal

You can't take latest scenerio in the manga and paste it in deferent situation

How about Obito when making intangibility attack and Kaguya open her portal and sent Obito straight to lava sea or acid

Or changing dimension and freeze Obito movement unless he have Amaterasu, he can escape.

What about Kaguya portal duplicate like Obito did to her dimension.

What about Kaguya portal tactical battle

Kamui snipe have it own range that the advantages of this technique

epic post , too bad I can not rep you ;(

 

[Ansatsuken]

epic post , too bad I can not rep you ;(

Its OK thanks

 

[Omar19992010]

I can't believe people are actually debating that Obito Wins. Obito stands zero chance.

 

[wael reda]

You just look at latest chapter than proceed to create a scenerio that you think is check mate already

Kakashi just able to do all that because Kaguya is busy fighting other people's

And what is you true scenerio if Kakashi encounter non distract Kaguya and not relay from this chapter

What about portal grab, what about portal ash bone in closer distance where Objto unable to react

What about gravity dimension that Kaguya can control to make Obito unable to move.

What about hidden inside portal and lunching land changing attack or changing the dimension to acid dimension where Kaguya hiding in the portal

You can't take latest scenerio in the manga and paste it in deferent situation

How about Obito when making intangibility attack and Kaguya open her portal and sent Obito straight to lava sea or acid

Or changing dimension and freeze Obito movement unless he have Amaterasu, he can escape.

What about Kaguya portal duplicate like Obito did to her dimension.

What about Kaguya portal tactical battle

Kamui snipe have it own range that the disadvantages of this technique

If I'm the writer of this fight, I can make 101 situation to take down Obito even by simplest of move

And this fighting thread is nothing in the manga ,that mean I'm free to do anything by Kaguya power. But at one point you'll will saying that I'm creating fanfic because not follow manga fact. And so be it

But I'm know without limit of manga Kaguya can do more

And not Kishi

I think you forgot that kamui can travel through any dimension ,so saying kaguya warps him to lava(though obito can fly),gravity,ice or acid dimension is meaningless since obito can easily travel through dimensions ,

Jiubiobito reacted to ftg directly on his body by gudoma defence which isn't instant ,now he can make himself intangible instantly ,he can easily react to any of kaguya teleportation which is slower than ftg directly to a mark on your body

Kamui snipe is all ranges ,that isn't disadvantage Lol