Mū vs Tobirama

[TRE MERCER]

How many people can counter this in Naruto-verse? (Your premise on how he defeats Tobirama)

Can't take you serious since you think Tobirama fodder edo bombs can take down Ps.

 

[DMT]

How can Tobirama use GKF on Mū while the latter is flying ?

 

[Penguin]

Tobirama wins. To attack, Mu needs to reappear and KCM Naruto, whose reaction speeds are not nearly as good as Tobirama's, reacted to Mu's "broken" combo. Tobirama is the glue that fixes Mu's "broken" combo. I hope I don't need to go in depth with this, but I will if I need too.

How can Tobirama use GKF on Mū while the latter is flying ?

Erm. GKF dwarfed multiple Bijuu sized Juubi clones. Lol it will reach him.

 

[DMT]

Tobirama wins. To attack, Mu needs to reappear and KCM Naruto, whose reaction speeds are not nearly as good as Tobirama's, reacted to Mu's "broken" combo. Tobirama is the glue that fixes Mu's "broken" combo. I hope I don't need to go in depth with this, but I will if I need too.



Erm. GKF dwarfed multiple Bijuu sized Juubi clones. Lol it will reach him.

Well I didn't know the GKF's AoE

I agree Tobirama takes it anyway with high difficulty Lol

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Can't take you serious since you think Tobirama fodder edo bombs can take down Ps.

First you try to grab my attention of another thread of me going off topic and now your doing the same?

My reasoning for it being possible is completely logical. An explosion has more energy (at least Tobirama's) distress/output them a giant construction slamming down on you.

Just by looking from this view. If Tobirama's bombs isn't continuous and explode once. It already shown powerful enough to have God Gates go flying. The same case would be said for one punch from SS, It is iffy to say it can do it with one punch. Unless you think SS has some explosive punches. And even then we either conclude that 1 punch SS = 1 explosion from Edo. Now the same energy output being increase and going bigger and bigger (which scales up to the same as Senpou Mokuton and Original P.S.).

 

[Penguin]

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All of those Juubi clones are the size of Gamakichi, who is the size of Gamabunta, who is as big as a Bijuu. But GKF isn't even needed.

 

[sharingansennin]

Tobirama wins once Edo's are summoned

u fail

1. He has no feats for ET

2. You need a dead body for ET to work

3. The fodder edos he would have wouldn't have affect the match besides wasting Tobirama's chakra

 

[Bronze]

Who says Mu needs took turn invisible to attack Tobirama? He can stab him with Kunai on vital organ.​

 

[Brother Numpsay]

u fail

1. He has no feats for ET

2. You need a dead body for ET to work

3. The fodder edos he would have wouldn't have affect the match besides wasting Tobirama's chakra

lol I fail?

1. So? He is the original creator so you fail if you think he needs feats.
2. Good thing the conditions of the OP states its already prep. You fail twice so far
3. Except the edo bodies have unlimited chakra and unlimited regeneration so no he isn't wasting anything. Fail #3

Sit down

 

[OnPoint]

Tobirama wins. To attack, Mu needs to reappear and KCM Naruto, whose reaction speeds are not nearly as good as Tobirama's, reacted to Mu's "broken" combo. Tobirama is the glue that fixes Mu's "broken" combo. I hope I don't need to go in depth with this, but I will if I need too.

Mū doesn't need to reappear in order to attack Tobirama. He can always resort to the fundamentals - kunai and the like. Tobirama's main problem is that he can't immediately tell where the Tsuchikage might be at any given point. Developing a strategy to take him out might, at the least, cost Tobirama a fair few doppelgangers.

Mū's abilities allow him to take the fight to the Hokage, not the other way around.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Who says Mu needs took turn invisible to attack Tobirama? He can stab him with Kunai on vital organ.​

Doesn't matter, since Mu cannot differentiate between shadow clones. So he'll just be wasting his time.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

idk mu should win his only threat is ftg and tht infinite explosion

 

[Inert Brian]

Tobirama wins, the second Muu shows himself to attack, Tobirama can detect him and FTG away from Jinton.

 

[Blackdeath667]

Doesn't matter, since Mu cannot differentiate between shadow clones. So he'll just be wasting his time.

cant mu sense the difference

 

[Braiyan]

Tobirama wins. By making at least 3 clones, summoning the Edos and marking them, he has at least an extra five pair of eyes to look out for Mu, much like

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. Then, when Mu becomes visible to attack, Tobirama and the clones both have the reflexes to dodge/swap with an Edo, who will then blow up Mu and everything in his general area with explosive tag spam.

 

[Gold Lightning]

cant mu sense the difference

He can't. Shadow clones are an exact replica of the original with each of their chakra distributed equally. Only Madara's sharingan was somehow able to tell the difference. It's impossible to sense it though, even Kaguya cannot tell the difference between Naruto and his clones. So unless Mu has better sensory abilities than Kaguya (lol) then no.

 

[Penguin]

Mū doesn't need to reappear in order to attack Tobirama. He can always resort to the fundamentals - kunai and the like. Tobirama's main problem is that he can't immediately tell where the Tsuchikage might be at any given point. Developing a strategy to take him out might, at the least, cost Tobirama a fair few doppelgangers.

Mū's abilities allow him to take the fight to the Hokage, not the other way around.

Yes he actually does. He always has in the manga. Neither could Naruto, but Naruto evaded with lesser reflexes and no Hiraishin. Post an argument.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Wow, OnPoint made a thread?

OT: Tobirama can win fairly easily. His Kage Bushin can number in the hundreds, meaning that Mū cannot end this by slashing Tobirama's throat, or atomising him via Jinton.

For range he can merely cover the surrounding area with water, and wait until Mū strikes. If Mū makes a pass at one of the clones, the Edo Zombies (as they have his chakra flowing through them) can be teleported to that area, where they can use Kibakufuda to end him.

Mū has no answer to Tobirama's Hirashin versatility. The nature of the technique means that wherever one Tobirama clone is, the rest can all amass there in a moment's notice.

 

[OnPoint]

Yes he actually does. He always has in the manga. Neither could Naruto, but Naruto evaded with lesser reflexes and no Hiraishin. Post an argument.

He's turned visible when he's no longer able to hide his chakra; namely, when he's had to resort to using Jutsu (such as Jinton). No evidence that he needs to turn visible to walk, fly or use a f@cking kunai.

Initially only Gaara could detect him with his sand. Naruto never detected or fought Mū when he was completely null. Even then, Naruto could sense people based on negative intentions; Tobirama has never had any such power. Try again.

 

[OnPoint]

OT: Tobirama can win fairly easily. His Kage Bushin can number in the hundreds, meaning that Mū cannot end this by slashing Tobirama's throat, or atomising him via Jinton.

For range he can merely cover the surrounding area with water, and wait until Mū strikes. If Mū makes a pass at one of the clones, the Edo Zombies (as they have his chakra flowing through them) can be teleported to that area, where they can use Kibakufuda to end him.

Mū has no answer to Tobirama's Hirashin versatility. The nature of the technique means that wherever one Tobirama clone is, the rest can all amass there in a moment's notice.

I suppose. But if the Tsuchikage goes straight in with his Added-Weight Rock Techniques, Tobirama won't be able to cast the majority of his Jutsu, because he won't even be able to raise his arms.

Another issue is that Tobirama can't actually sense Mū. That means he probably won't be aware of how many opponents he's really up against at any moment. Given that he's in character, and already assumes he holds a numerical advantage (with his Edo summons in play), it's likely that he won't spam the Kage Bunshin no Jutsu.