Mū vs Tobirama

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

I suppose. But if the Tsuchikage goes straight in with his Added-Weight Rock Techniques, Tobirama won't be able to cast the majority of his Jutsu, because he won't even be able to raise his arms.

Another issue is that Tobirama can't actually sense Mū. That means he probably won't be aware of how many opponents he's really up against at any moment. Given that he's in character, and already assumes he holds a numerical advantage (with his Edo summons in play), it's likely that he won't spam the Kage Bunshin no Jutsu.

That argument assumes that Tobirama is going to stand still and allow the Tsuchikagw to, I presume, go invisible and make an approach on Tobirama. I don't think so personally, especially since the very reason the Kage Bushin was designed was to gain intel on opponents abilities, essentially Shinobi tactics 101, which Tobirama would have logical reason to use at the start of the fight (his personality mixed with the fact you stated he had intel on Mū's invisibility in the stipulations). Once he's spread them out, like I said he can simply cover the ground with water - his chakra, and once any clones disappear, teleport his zombies in and seal the deal.

You're mostly right on the sensing part; Tobirama can't sense Mū if he's in the air, he can on the ground.

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That is contact sensing. Tobirama has displayed sensing without touching the ground, as has Minato, yet both have used the technique before. To say that this is the same as your usual sensing that Tobirama has displayed when he used this technique the day he died would be illogical.

For argument's sake though, I would just grant that Mū would probably remain airborne for most if not the whole fight, not really any reason to believe he wouldn't take to the air, most likely to circumvent any risk of contact sensing. Regardless, as soon as a clone disappears Tobirama will know where he is, and the water acts as an easy medium for Tobirama to have near omnipresence in the vicinity of the water.

 

[Edward]

tobirama wins high difficulty

 

[Oblivionx]

I'll bet on tobirama... He is a sensor and can make clones too.. Which counter most of mu's abilities... People claiming one touch from mu kills tobirama seem to have forgotten what one touch from tobirama is capable of.. Especially with edos there...

 

[Bronze]

Doesn't matter, since Mu cannot differentiate between shadow clones. So he'll just be wasting his time.

Doesn't matter, since Mu can keep an eye on the Tobirama who will form hand-seal when calling upon Kage-Bunshin.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Doesn't matter, since Mu can keep an eye on the Tobirama who will form hand-seal when calling upon Kage-Bunshin.

Lol really?

Ok then. Tobirama uses revolving thunder god to swap places with his clones in order to mix himself up with the crowd. Or he simply uses a water wall to shield himself and his clones while he mixes himself in with the other copies.

Can't believe you think Mu can keep track of the real one, that's bull. The countless times Naruto has used shadow clones in his fights, how many times have his opponents kept an eye on the real one? Desperate argument much

 

[Bronze]

Lol really?

Ok then. Tobirama uses revolving thunder god to swap places with his clones in order to mix himself up with the crowd. Or he simply uses a water wall to shield himself and his clones while he mixes himself in with the other copies.

Can't believe you think Mu can keep track of the real one, that's bull. The countless times Naruto has used shadow clones in his fights, how many times have his opponents kept an eye on the real one? Desperate argument much

He isn't teleporting wit Bunshin, until he forms seals to create; which is where Mu will have an eye on him. So teleporting or mixing himself isn't going to do anything. Too bad that Tobirama has never used 2 techniques that require 2 hand-seals at once.

Spamming off topic is against the rules. Only fodder who grasps staws will rely on argument like that, instead of logically focusing on the discussion. Guess you were and one.

 

[Gold Lightning]

He isn't teleporting wit Bunshin, until he forms seals to create; which is where Mu will have an eye on him. So teleporting or mixing himself isn't going to do anything. Too bad that Tobirama has never used 2 techniques that require 2 hand-seals at once.

Spamming off topic is against the rules. Only fodder who grasps staws will rely on argument like that, instead of logically focusing on the discussion. Guess you were and one.

Are you brain dead? If Tobirama uses hiraishin miwashi with all his clones, it's simplify impossible to know and where is the real Tobirama because the swap itself is instant. If all clones are swapping at once, how on earth will Mu even being to tell where the real Tobirama teleported to?

Pls try again with your uselss argument.

 

[DMT]

But GKF isn't even needed.

he gets raped without edos

 

[OnPoint]

That argument assumes that Tobirama is going to stand still and allow the Tsuchikagw to, I presume, go invisible and make an approach on Tobirama. I don't think so personally, especially since the very reason the Kage Bushin was designed was to gain intel on opponents abilities, essentially Shinobi tactics 101, which Tobirama would have logical reason to use at the start of the fight (his personality mixed with the fact you stated he had intel on Mū's invisibility in the stipulations). Once he's spread them out, like I said he can simply cover the ground with water - his chakra, and once any clones disappear, teleport his zombies in and seal the deal.

I'm not denying that. I'm just pointing out that when Bunshin feints are combined with invisibility, Tobirama is going to have a big problem when it comes to tracking the amount of opponents he's up against, particularly if they remain airborne. Sure, he'll create a couple of doppelgangers as a precaution. I just don't think it's reasonable to say that this number will reach into the 'hundreds' given the information Tobirama has to work with.

 

[RicardoA]

Tobirama still wins.
Finger sensing counters his invisibility imo. That's the only thing he would need to be wary of. The rest of Muu or Onoki's arsenal isn't a problem for Tobirama.
Even he couldn't sense him from the get go, he could just make a bunch of clones, then strike in a split second the moment Muu attacked one of the clones using Onoki's weight jutsu.

 

[Unorthodox]

Dimitri Negged gold lighting Lol

OT - Muu wins invisible rock clones snapping Tobirama's neck