Mū vs Tobirama

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Location: Madara vs Gokage
Distance: 30 metres
Intel: Tobirama knows about the Tsuchikage's invisibility technique. Mū has knowledge on Hiraishin.
Mindset: IC
Restrictions: None

Mū has all of Ōnoki's feats. Tobirama has two fodder Edo summons.
 

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Muu wins with the array of versatility granted.
 

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How so? Not that I necessarily agree or disagree with your statement.
 

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Rock clones that can also split and go invisible? That alone is overkill in many situations! one touch and Tobirama will not be able to move a finger?
 

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I suppose I should also add that if Tobirama is beaten, the Edo Tensei is cancelled (seeing as Mū is lacking in Fūinjutsu).
 

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Rock clones that can also split and go invisible? That alone is overkill in many situations! one touch and Tobirama will not be able to move a finger?

I guess. But then Tobirama can also make use of his Kage Bunshin. And in the event that he's caught by any level of Mū's Added-Weight Rock Technique, he can always bounce away with Hiraishin.

Also splitting would severely weaken the Tsuchikage and any of his duplicates.
 

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I guess. But then Tobirama can also make use of his Kage Bunshin. And in the event that he's caught by any level of Mū's Added-Weight Rock Technique, he can always bounce away with Hiraishin.

Also splitting would severely weaken the Tsuchikage and any of his duplicates.

Multiple splitting invisible undetectable clones every where? They don't have to do jinton at all. Just slice necks one by one no diff! Whether he use FTG while immobilized is irrelevant since he still will not be ale to move one bit.
 

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Multiple splitting invisible undetectable clones every where? They don't have to do jinton at all. Just slice necks one by one no diff! Whether he use FTG while immobilized is irrelevant since he still will not be ale to move one bit.

Has he got the chakra for all that? I'll admit, it's an extremely broken combo - although one could argue it isn't really that realistic, particularly since Mū is supposed to be in character. It's a stretch to say he'd go for more than two or three duplicates to start with if he's only up against one opponent (who, granted, has two summons).

It could also be a problem if he doesn't kill the correct Tobirama right away. If the latter were to catch onto that particular tactic, he might start putting marks on his doppelgangers - then simply go on the offensive the moment one of them is struck down. At any one point, the Hokage might have five or six representatives on the battlefield. That's a lot to try and take on in one go.
 

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Muu wins. Only because he's able to use Oonoki's abilities.
 

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Has he got the chakra for all that? I'll admit, it's an extremely broken combo - although one could argue it isn't really that realistic, particularly since Mū is supposed to be in character. It's a stretch to say he'd go for more than two or three duplicates to start with if he's only up against one opponent (who, granted, has two summons).

It could also be a problem if he doesn't kill the correct Tobirama right away. If the latter were to catch onto that particular tactic, he might start putting marks on his doppelgangers - then simply go on the offensive the moment one of them is struck down. At any one point, the Hokage might have five or six representatives on the battlefield. That's a lot to try and take on in one go.

You seem to confuse what Splitting is. is where Kabuto explains it. It is simply just dividing chakra between the 2 in a solid real copy made (clone for clone in the clone's case). So as long as he has a percent he can split.


Pertaining the "right" tobirama; They will be invisible slicing through the clones till the real one is hit. In one smooth motion they are offed since he would sense them. Then with the added Stone Golems for extra distractions it makes it that much easier to off them one by one. And Water made on the field is Lowered in the earth as well as any Water dragons made will be lowered at any given time. A tactic that can be used i would say but then I'll have to go into this long explanation. Aint nobody got time for that. haha
Muu wins. Only because he's able to use Oonoki's abilities.

Rock clone is the only one needed. And even that is a standard Jutsu in their respective village.
 

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tbh muu stands a chance at beating tobirama without onoki abilities but with them he clears mid diff at best
 

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How many people can counter this in Naruto-verse? (Your premise on how he defeats Tobirama)

Not many, that is why he is deadly (invisibility). But of course there are plenty of ways to combat the invisibility strategy, but still doesn't guarantee a victory on that alone.
 

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You seem to confuse what Splitting is. is where Kabuto explains it. It is simply just dividing chakra between the 2 in a solid real copy made (clone for clone in the clone's case). So as long as he has a percent he can split.

Sorry mate, you misunderstood me. I was pointing more towards how Mū would struggle using other techniques (Doton, Jinton variants) if he constantly split his chakra.
 

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Tobirama wins because of the starting distance.
 

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Sorry mate, you misunderstood me. I was pointing more towards how Mū would struggle using other techniques (Doton, Jinton variants) if he constantly split his chakra.

Oh mybad. The Jinton thing is simple; Use Rock clones, have them Split. That way the Og can still use Jinton and earth jutsu's are not chakra taxing like jinton is etc etc.
 

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Tobirama wins without edos.

- Makes a dozen shadow clones to counter Mu's invisibility sneak attacks.
- Tobirama senses whenever Mu becomes visible again.
- Body flicker and FTG evade particle style all day everyday.

Best strategy Tobirama could use is to plant a paper bomb on each of his clones, so the moment Mu attacks a clone whole invisible, the real Tobirama sets it off.
 

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Tobirama wins this

--he has 2 edos here and can tag them along with his KB thus expanding his use of FTG significantly

--he can now evade jinton through FTG or if he's in it's radius then he can swap himself with a clone

--sneak attack is also not happening seeing how tobirama is much much faster than muu. Who needs to turn visible to use jinton. And using onokis close range doton techniques are even worse since he would just end up getting marked

--the starting distance also allows tobirama to mark him and finish him off

--he can also use his edos to fire off GKFx2 which has more than enough AOE to get muu and either kill him or mark him, as once either of the two happens then muu is done for
 
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Muu wins.

invisible rock clones R too much
 
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