Ψ Hashirama Senju's Truth: Origin Of Wood Release Ψ

[Megatolium]

Good theory. And yeah. It's a given really.

If Shinju, a tree deity is the proginator of different sorts of life forms (vegetation and animals) its fair to say Mokuton is a far cry from the God Tree itself.

Seeing how Hashirama's DNA not only provide powerful chakra, but a life force so powerful it is used a catalyst for the husk of Shinju originally, like Madara used it.

But there is a connection of sorts between Hashirama and Shinju, it's almost like Shinju is reincarnated as Hashirama.

Which is interesting given the fact Mokuton absorbs and restrains Bijuu's just as the Shinju (Gedo Mazo) does. Both of which uses dragons to absorb chakra.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

False, The eye of Sasuke, is stated to be a rinnegan. Rikudou specifically stated she possesses the sharingan and byakugan. No rinnegan was mentioned

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^ Rinnegan​

 

[SageObito]

Well Done Well Done I really liked it man ;D

 

[ROHAN]

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^ Rinnegan​

But Rikudou calls it a Sharingan.

 

[Almighty Ra]

Awesome read I agree the Sage has some part to play in it. Great theory

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

But Rikudou calls it a Sharingan.

I dont believe sasuke and Kaguyas eye are the same tho

Awesome read I agree the Sage has some part to play in it. Great theory

Thank you!

Good theory. And yeah. It's a given really.

If Shinju, a tree deity is the proginator of different sorts of life forms (vegetation and animals) its fair to say Mokuton is a far cry from the God Tree itself.

Seeing how Hashirama's DNA not only provide powerful chakra, but a life force so powerful it is used a catalyst for the husk of Shinju originally, like Madara used it.

But there is a connection of sorts between Hashirama and Shinju, it's almost like Shinju is reincarnated as Hashirama.

Which is interesting given the fact Mokuton absorbs and restrains Bijuu's just as the Shinju (Gedo Mazo) does. Both of which uses dragons to absorb chakra.

Exactly! well put.

Well Done Well Done I really liked it man ;D

Thanks man. Glad you liked it.

 

[ROHAN]

Seeing the recent chapters, I am having an increasing suspiscion that Black Zetsu gave Hashirama Wood Realease, so that Madara could be more compativle with the Rinnegan.

 

[KingHashirama]

Seeing the recent chapters, I am having an increasing suspiscion that Black Zetsu gave Hashirama Wood Realease, so that Madara could be more compativle with the Rinnegan.

Mokuton isn't required for a rinnegan.

 

[ROHAN]

No but his Sage mode made him even more powerful.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

So who stated having yang = definitly having mokuton?. Hagoromo possessed Yin and Yang, hence he had the rinnegan. He would not have accquired the rinnegan without yin and yang combo. Mokuton as I said many times before is simply a mutation that occured in Hashirama's dna.

Here is the misconception you are in. Kaguya =/= juubi when she at the fruit. However, Kaguya merged her will into the juubi somehow. We do not how.. but she was able to do it. How can you be everybit of something just by eating part of it? you cannot. However, she merged herself into the shinju, hence the tsukuyomi came into play. Note that Rikudou only entitled 2 KKGs to her, the sharingan and the byakugan. Some people are even saying she possessed the rinnegan.. but she did not.

Well we have no clue on what her powers were before.. and no clue how her powers are now compared to before.. there has been no comparison. The revival was because of black zetsu. Not because of absorbing the full tree. However this is irrelevant to the topic at hand. her powers and so on. Rikudou didn't have the powers of Kaguya, despite becoming the jinchuriki of Kaguya/juubi. Since i myself have no firm answer regarding kaguya and the tree, i won't bother arguing further on this.

Lets talk then. What is life force in Naruto? Chakra. Do you understand that? Uzumaki are nothing more than a senju clan. Senju blood lineage was divided into many factions, until Hashirama reunited most of them under him. However, Uzumaki were already established on an island.. hence the whole konoha and uzumaki treaty thing.

Senju possess more chakra aka life force than Uzumaki. I acknowledge that there are different types of Senju (it was called a diverse clan by kishimoto). But i am referring to Hashirama and Tobirama. And also,

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Come on dude this is a long established fact you are questioning now. Senju like Hashirama and Tobirama have strong life force.


So wouldn't this be me cleaning up the mess


No reread what i stated. I said Hashirama had already possessed the power, however he need to train hard to unlock it. Similar to Ashura. Possessing the power = reference to what i stated that it was a mutation in his blood.

^^^^^^^^ Clearly you didn't look at this.

Kaguya was never stated to USE wood style. Shinju itself is wood. .


Also, you stated that manipulating something is already wood = samething as Hashirama.... where did you get that from? Sure you realize that Hashirama creates new wood.. not make from existing one (which he can also do).

Shinju's Jutsu: God: Nativity Of World Tree

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Hashiramas Jutsu: Secret Technique: Nativity Of World Trees

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Is it a coicidence? I think Not.

If you think the facts below are a coincidence then you are not a man of logic, and there is no further to Discuss.

-Both hashiramas Mokuton and Shinju have the ability to Absorb/Give Chakra
-Both Produce Life Energy
-Help Strengthen Zetsu (that was created by IT ergo Jubi)
-Have the exact same name. (As shown above)

 

[KingHashirama]

Shinju's Jutsu: God: Nativity Of World Tree

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Hashiramas Jutsu: Secret Technique: Nativity Of World Trees

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Is it a coicidence? I think Not.

If you think the facts below are a coincidence then you are not a man of logic, and there is no further to Discuss.

-Both hashiramas Mokuton and Shinju have the ability to Absorb/Give Chakra
-Both Produce Life Energy
-Help Strengthen Zetsu (that was created by IT ergo Jubi)
-Have the exact same name. (As shown above)

o-o notice in the manga they are the same techniques.. lol.

There are many techniques to bring up mokuton. Madara specifically knew Jukai kouton from Hashirama.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

o-o notice in the manga they are the same techniques.. lol.

There are many techniques to bring up mokuton. Madara specifically knew Jukai kouton from Hashirama.

lol they are not the same techniques, one is kaguyas/jubis, the other is hashiramas, unless you are admitting jubi's and hashiramas are the same technique?

 

[Mad Daz]

Couldnt it just be a combination of being Ashuras reincarnation while also having the ability to combine water+earth?

 

[SuperChief]

I personally believe it's

Water + Earth + Yang = Wood Release.

Why? Because we know Hashirama was an incarnation of Ashura, who inherited Yang, which explains why none of the other Senju had Wood Release.

 

[Joshutsu]

Yeah I believe it was given somehow as well. Nice theory.

But that leads a question, Yamato being the only other person to contain mokuton and there is no manifestation of hashirama on him.

Does that mean he himself could possibly possess a pretty strong life force to some extent since his mokuton is weaker of course.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Couldnt it just be a combination of being Ashuras reincarnation while also having the ability to combine water+earth?

This post above is the most vital part, please read. Then tell me what you think.

Shinju's Jutsu: God: Nativity Of World Tree

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Hashiramas Jutsu: Secret Technique: Nativity Of World Trees

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Is it a coicidence? I think Not.

If you think the facts below are a coincidence then you are not a man of logic, and there is no further to Discuss.

-Both hashiramas Mokuton and Shinju have the ability to Absorb/Give Chakra
-Both Produce Life Energy
-Help Strengthen Zetsu (that was created by IT ergo Jubi)
-Have the exact same name. (As shown above)

I personally believe it's

Water + Earth + Yang = Wood Release.

Why? Because we know Hashirama was an incarnation of Ashura, who inherited Yang, which explains why none of the other Senju had Wood Release.

Life energy is part of Yang, but I think hashirama simply have too much of it.

Yeah I believe it was given somehow as well. Nice theory.

But that leads a question, Yamato being the only other person to contain mokuton and there is no manifestation of hashirama on him.

Does that mean he himself could possibly possess a pretty strong life force to some extent since his mokuton is weaker of course.

That was likely the case, since he was the only one out of 60 children to survive from the same exact experiment.
Meaning he had something special, I dont know what clan he is from, but perhaps he is from a clan distantly related to SO6P as well.

Good theory bro

 

[KingHashirama]

lol they are not the same techniques, one is kaguyas/jubis, the other is hashiramas, unless you are admitting jubi's and hashiramas are the same technique?

No sir, they are the same techniques, hence why Hashirama specifically stated "oh shit its jukai kouton".

Here is the difference:

Madara's is powered by the shinju
Hashirama's is powered by himself.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

No sir, they are the same techniques, hence why Hashirama specifically stated "oh shit its jukai kouton".

Here is the difference:

Madara's is powered by the shinju
Hashirama's is powered by himself.

Yes exactly, he called it the same name, with a God infront of it. That could be just his arrogance, or it could be refering to Shinju, either way you cant prove that Jukai kouton itself isnt Shinju's ability originally.

Anyway lets put that aside for a sec, You fail to understand 1 thing bro. Kaguya used the Shinju's roots to envelop the victims of Infinite Tsukuyoumi the same exact way Madz is using Mokuton Roots to envelop the alliance.

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As kaguya hinted, they are put under a Genjutsu while the roots extract energy from them (she stated she was absorbing their chakra) however it has also been hinted that the roots can transfer chakra the same way they can extract. So im gonna get to the point

Why do you think these similarities exist and why do you think Zetsus are created in the process?

1-Kaguya using Shinju's Roots and enveloping the Victims trapped in Infinite Tsukuyoumi while extracting/transfering energy

2-Madara using Jukai Kouton (in this example we'll assume its hashi's mokuton) and enveloping the victims of Infinite Tsukuyoumi the same exact way as Kaguya did with the Shinju roots with the same a
exact abilities.

3-Zetsus are created by transfering shinjus life energy to the victims, I came to this conclusion due to two reasons 1-Kaguyas statement 2-Its really obvious, since Zetsus can use mokuton and have much life energy


Do you really think all this is a coincidence?
Because I doubt it